Astray
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Yes, which is still selling units. Are they selling great? No. But they are still buyers out there for Xboxes.
Microsoft is increasing the prices of Xbox Series consoles in the US... again.
xrnzaaas
Member
Microsoft doesn't care about its own consoles anymore and instead of taking some steps to fight the tariffs they'll just set insane prices in the US (and raise them if needed) and slowly sell the current stock in other part of the world.
It will be the same if they'll follow with the plan to release another traditional console. I won't be surprised if it's close to 1000$ and becomes extremely niche hardware, even more than the Xbox Ally.
It will be the same if they'll follow with the plan to release another traditional console. I won't be surprised if it's close to 1000$ and becomes extremely niche hardware, even more than the Xbox Ally.
RetroGamingUK
Member
Sony total price increases since launch:
PS5: 10%
PS5 DE: 25%
PS5 Pro: 7%
Microsoft total price increases since launch:
Series S: 33%
Series S 1TB: 29%
Series X: 30%
Series X 2TB: 33%
PS5: 10%
PS5 DE: 25%
PS5 Pro: 7%
Microsoft total price increases since launch:
Series S: 33%
Series S 1TB: 29%
Series X: 30%
Series X 2TB: 33%
Goalus
Member
It will likely be above $1000 if it does support Steam and Epic.
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memoryman3
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Which all track with tariff increases, component price increases and the weakening of the US dollar.
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Why do Sony fans still console war? What do you have to prove still?
Ar¢tos
Member
Sony absorbed more of the cost than MS in the retail price?
I guess it makes sense since they sell more and get the money back faster.
jm89
Member
They are also producing ps5s in other countries to reduce impact of tariffs and the series x atleast seems like a more expensive device to manufacture. So probably aren't taking a hit like ms is.
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Why MS mind increased the price 1 time and by done with it? They should have increase the prices 30% and done.
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
The Switch 2 seems like the bargain of the century at the moment
GoldenEye98
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Is this US only? Related to tariffs?
memoryman3
Member
While forums would like you to think this is a move made to increase profits, it isn't. The price increases line up almost perfectly with the 30% tariffs planned for China imports. And yes, it's US only.
NeverYouMind
Member
I always wonder what is the cost of unsold inventory as prices increase. For PlayStation 5 it seems to not be a concern but for less demanded products I would think it would be a liability.
Astray
Member
Believe it or not, this actually works for the right product.
A key example here is what Luxottica did when they took over Ray-Ban:
Bringing The Iconic Ray Ban back
What marketing strategy turned around the brand positioning of Ray Ban. Ray-Ban is now one of the largest eyewear selling brands in the world.
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vodka-bull
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I'm holding on to my Xbox Series X as a kind of investment.
StereoVsn
Gold Member
Remember that MS has that dumb proprietary storage. So 1 TB is like $150 retail anyways for it.
If someone wants to have a lot of crap installed and has to have an Xbox, 2TB makes some sense.
It shouldn't be $150 more though since a 3rd party retail MSRP for 1TB externally packaged drive is that.
Topher
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Yeah, it is $50 to go from 512GB to 1 TB with XSS so it should be $100 more, at most, for XSX to go from 1 TB to 2 TB. But I guess if they priced it correctly then it would further highlight what a shit deal the proprietary expansion really is.
DryvBy
Member
Bwtween the "graphics don't matter" crowd and graphically unimpressive art this gen, it may be the last gen ever needed.
dragonyeuw
Member
Why doesn't Microsoft( and I guess the other companies) make representation that these consoles could fall under whatever category smartphones are which AFAIK have some kind of exemption? They all have GPUS, CPUs, RAM and other bits and bobs. If its about the end-use, there's nothing mandating that someone has to use an iPhone specifically as a phone. Dare I suggest its phone capabilities are probably secondary functions for many people now? Fuck, I haven't actually taken a 'phone call' in months; most people I speak to now either do so via voice-chat or video chat, and most of my 'phone' usage is using it as a web browser, playing the odd phone game, YouTube, watching movies etc.
These devices are all essentially multi-function media devices now. What is it specifically about gaming 'consoles' that subject them to these tariffs in a say that, for example, the new iphones or other exempt electronics don't? The PS5 and Series go beyond the function of just being 'gaming devices', and have done so since the 7th gen.
Sorry, early morning rant and I could be completely off-base.
These devices are all essentially multi-function media devices now. What is it specifically about gaming 'consoles' that subject them to these tariffs in a say that, for example, the new iphones or other exempt electronics don't? The PS5 and Series go beyond the function of just being 'gaming devices', and have done so since the 7th gen.
Sorry, early morning rant and I could be completely off-base.
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MisterXDTV
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Sell as fast as you can, it won't be worth much in a few months, when MS actually discontinues it
DeltaPolarBear
Member
The difference is the only reason why walled gardens are allowed. If you become a multimedia device then you are in risk of having other company's stores open on your device against your will. No walled garden = no console, basically.
nowhat
Member
Kinda agree with you, but isn't 1TB of that proprietary external storage more than $150?
(honestly have no idea, it was ridiculously expensive not so long time ago)
dragonyeuw
Member
I thought a multimedia device was literally defined by its name, the ability to serve as a means to use multiple forms of media. You're saying it's moreso whether the device has its own walled garden or is open to other storefronts beyond its remit? So what's the reason for something like the iphone having an exemption but not the PS5 or Xbox consoles? They're all walled garden devices or am I completely misunderstanding you?
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Topher
Identifies as young
1 TB proprietary is $160. But with that we are talking about an separately sold product vs simply upgrading storage components on the motherboard. 2TB XSX is nothing but a blatant cash grab.
dragonyeuw
Member
The Seagate expansion card was outrageously priced when it came out, but ( unsurprisingly) when WD brought out theirs the prices came down bit. Funny how competition works lol....still the PS5 had the better solution for your wallet going with non-proprietary storage.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
they keep fighting a losing fight, rumors of PS6 having a simpler desing to keep costs down is exactly what this industry and ecosystem needs.
Topher
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Killer8
Member
reinking
Gold Member
They will come around if Xbox does go full party and tell us what a great idea it is. They just move the message to fit the current situation.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
100 percent. Evey move they make is glorious wisdom to them.
demigod
Member
Not sure what point you're trying to make. The PS4 was RARELY $200, meanwhile the xbox one was consistently $200 throughout the year.
I think it's to cover up the failure.
Look, what failed was the entire strategy Phil Spencer created when he took over Xbox.
But if Phil Spencer admits the error in the entire strategy, unlike Redfall, there's no way to talk about an "accident" or "it was just a mistake"; he would have destroyed Xbox.
The goal is for Xbox to stop selling in a way that allows him, Phil Spencer, to talk about "external conditions," "market conditions," "It was Matrick who lost the last generation."
I knew Microsoft would do this. They always try to blame something or someone when their vision or strategy destroys the business.
Windows Phone didn't end because MS fragmented a platform to cram in PC, Xbox, and Windows Phone integration (something no one even cares about or wants today) with 3% market share. It was because Google didn't make YouTube for Windows Phone. It's never the fault of MS's stupid strategy... It's always someone else's fault.
The Xbox 2TB is meant to "increase the failure" and further demonstrate that "the market no longer wants consoles."
"Look how hard we tried, even with an extra premium version; still, no one wanted it."
mayham2199
Member
Yes this has been my thought process. They just want a presence in the market but dont really care about how well it does. They are just gunning for the whales and anyone else can just leave and buy their games on whatever system they want.
demigod
Member
Did you see what Tim Cook gave Trump?!? Wouldn't surprise me if they had some other "backdoor" deals like Kawhi and the Clippers.
ReyBrujo
Member
viveks86
Member
Interesting! I guess MS would be better off calling the next console a PC after all
hououinkyouma00
Member
I hate these two fat cunts. They have their tongues so far up Microsoft's ass I don't know how anybody takes them seriously.
Say what you will about Ryan McCaffrey being a shill (he is, but he is still knowledgeable about the industry and isn't afraid to criticize when needed) but these two just shovel whatever Microsoft wants down their throats. I'll never understand why Colin lets this twat as on his podcast from time to time.
viveks86
Member
I thought Sony sorted this out be exporting to the US from Vietnam. No idea about Nintendo though
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