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[Sethista]

he has plataforms to reach miliions already.
those plataforms serve mainly for peoplle that already agree with him, it serves for them to reinforce their beliefs.

His reach wont broaden by being in the show. Are you afraid that someone will watch bill maher and suddenly agree with him?

Bill can combat his views by pointing out the flaws in his reasoning in a forum that can be accessed later for reference. Whenever anyone gets subjected to his hateful beliefs in the real life, the have this interview to prepare on how to combat that .

Also,, I am an atheist. What if a group of people does not let me go to a talk aout atheism in a college campus? People can say communist leaders were atheists and atheism caused major pain in the world, so no atheist deserves to be heard. If I am against any type of speech based on my beliefs, how can I complain if mine are squashed later?

Look, the guy is an extremist. People that agree with him will continue to believe him. But with opportunities like this, we can help move the needle.

Dont think Mhaer will succeed, but its a start.

You know what guys? I owe a huge mea culpa here. I quoted myself above to give context on my feelings about this, but after watching it last night, I was disgusted with the way maher handled the whole thing.

There is no proof of any transgender people attacking women in bathrooms, even if someone quotes a case here or there, its miniscule compared to the transgender population. For milo to say he does not want "perverts" in bathrooms and bill to say tht was a good point, instead of using data to show that for what it really is, discrimnation, was disgusting. Larry was my hero for the way he contextualized everything, but it sounded moot over maher and milo jerking eachother off.

I still stand by what I said in a general sense, but Maher just lost me completely. He is doing way more harm than good. In this specific case, I was wrong.

 

[Toby Dammit]

Debate wise, it was pretty much a draw. Bill did go softball on him during the 1 on 1. Overtime swung it but not everyone watches overtime.

However people got to see how strange and confused Milo is. His complete lack of professionalism will put off a lot of people.

His lack of professionalism is what many of his supporters like
As someone who has been following milo for a while, this has been his shtick for quite some time. If anything, it adds to his charm, and makes his many absurd opinions all the more entertaining to watch.

 

[Toxi]

This is still mindbogglingly pathetic the next morning.

 

[Gorillaz]

Maher pretty much sized him up and realized he is a joke but decided to give him a few lines. I can tell the way laughed off the quips he knew what type of person he was.

Got some extra views/cash from milo and fed his ego on talking down with an alt right mouthpiece. Seems about right.

 

[Toxi]

Maher pretty much sized him up and realized he is a joke but decided to give him a few lines.

"You remind me of a young, alive Christopher Hitchens"

 

[Jombie]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/tv/ct-bill-maher-milo-yiannopoulos-real-time-20170218-story.html

 

[Arttemis]

Holy shit, the overtime segment was thirty times better than anything in the main show.

 

[FunkyMonk]

Maher pretty much sized him up and realized he is a joke but decided to give him a few lines. I can tell the way laughed off the quips he knew what type of person he was.

Got some extra views/cash from milo and fed his ego on talking down with an alt right mouthpiece. Seems about right.

Then threw the trans community under the bus. Fucking arsehole. (Maher obviously, not you Gorillaz)

 

[gamz]

Maher pretty much sized him up and realized he is a joke but decided to give him a few lines. I can tell the way laughed off the quips he knew what type of person he was.

Got some extra views/cash from milo and fed his ego on talking down with an alt right mouthpiece. Seems about right.

It's basically how Stern deals with Daniel Carver. Reduce him to a joke. There is no way Milo believes the shit he spews.

 

[Orayn]

The only good outcome would have been for someone to break into the studio and beat the shit out of Milo on live TV.

 

[Crossing Eden]

It's basically how Stern deals with Daniel Carver. Reduce him to a joke. There is no way Milo believes the shit he spews.

Just like Trump amirite?

 

[gamz]

A "good" outcome would have been for someone to break into the studio and beat the shit out of Milo on live TV.

And that's what he wants. He lives off of being controversial. He's being idiotic and silly.

 

[gamz]

Just like Trump amirite?

Yep, except Trump isn't self aware. He doesn't have a clue and does believe the shit he spews.

 

[Orayn]

And that's what he wants. He lives off of being controversial. He's being idiotic and silly.

He also got what he wanted by getting on fucking TV. Do we just conclude that Milo wins no matter what, not say or do anything against him, and let him speak in every possible venue?

Sounds like a plan, dude. We'll defeat the Nazis by appeasing them to death.

 

[Muffin1611]

What wouldve been "good" to you? To see Milo cower into his seat and cry from the validity of the opposing points the panel had? He had nothing of substance to offer, touted an unfounded statistic about sex crime, and called a group of intellects "awful people". That worked out great for me. He's the idiot that I and the wife were told he was.

What would've been "good": If Milo wouldn't even have been able to attack other people because they're women again, as seen in the link of this poster:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/tv/ct-bill-maher-milo-yiannopoulos-real-time-20170218-story.html

The "showing that he's an idiot" thing sure did work out good for Trump, eh?

 

[aeolist]

The only good outcome would have been for someone to break into the studio and beat the shit out of Milo on live TV.

the only good outcome is not having him on to begin with and maher just spending the entire show walking back every terrible thing he's ever said on television (though there probably wouldn't be enough time for that)

 

[Toxi]

It's basically how Stern deals with Daniel Carver. Reduce him to a joke. There is no way Milo believes the shit he spews.

Did you even watch the same interview?

This is not "reducing him to a joke". This is letting him attack a frequently persecuted group of people using dishonest claims with only a shrug in response.

 

[gamz]

He also got what he wanted by getting on fucking TV. Do we just conclude that Milo wins no matter what, not say or do anything against him, and let him speak in every possible venue?

No. Why does Daniel Carver come on the Stern show so often? Because he's a joke and funny in his beliefs. You humanize the man and it's exactly what they don't want. They want to be taking seriously, and you just can't. Laugh at them.

 

[FunkyMonk]

And that's what he wants. He lives off of being controversial. He's being idiotic and silly.

Yes silly is the word I'd use for someone who spread fake tweets to incite his followers to attack someone for the crime over being a black woman. Silly is the word I'd use for him do xx ingredients a transgender student while giving a talk at her school. Silly is the best way to describe someone who yet again lied about a vulnerable community with the host brainlessly nodding along and sometimes agreeing . Silly is the word I'd use to describe him leading attack after attack on various gamergate targets, mainly female btw... actually silly is wrong, cancer would be much more apt for this individual.

 

[Lois_Lane]

No. Why does Daniel Carver come on the Stern show so often? Because he's a joke and funny in his beliefs. You humanize the man and it's exactly what they don't want. They want to be taking seriously, and you just can't. Laugh at them.

Don't HUMANIZE THEM. My god do you see what you're sayibg?

 

[peter0611]

Glad Bill could find some "common ground" with this dude.

After being asked by Maher why he singled out a transgender student for ridicule during a recent speech at University of Wisconsin, Milwaukee, Yiannopoulos intentionally referred to the former student as a “he” (she is a she), saying, “He had already left the university. And I make no apologies for protecting women and children from men who are confused about their sexual identity.” The Breitbart editor continued: “I did it on purpose. I misgendered this person… I think women and girls should be protected from having men who are confused about their sexual identities from their bathrooms.”

“That’s not unreasonable,” said Maher, who once again agreed with Yiannopoulos.

 

[The Kree]

No. Why does Daniel Carver come on the Stern show so often? Because he's a joke and funny in his beliefs. You humanize the man and it's exactly what they don't want. They want to be taking seriously, and you just can't. Laugh at them.

What's funny about a Klansman's beliefs that blacks and Jews are inherently inferior to white people?

 

[Orayn]

No. Why does Daniel Carver come on the Stern show so often? Because he's a joke and funny in his beliefs. You humanize the man and it's exactly what they don't want. They want to be taking seriously, and you just can't. Laugh at them.

Having someone on "as a joke" is still 100% an opportunity for them to spread their hateful views to people who WON'T take it for comedy.

 

[Jombie]

Did you even watch the same interview?

This is not "reducing him to a joke". This is letting him attack a frequently persecuted group of people using dishonest claims with only a shrug in response.

Still can't believe he said "that's reasonable." His fans and right wing assholes are having a field day with this.

 

[Crossing Eden]

Glad Bill could find some "common ground" with this dude.

Gais gais, he doesn't actually believe it tho, humanize him gais!!! /s

 

[Voyr]

Yep, the unfounded statistic that most people in the world believe. It was a great idea not to challenge him on it.

Your "most people in the world believe" creation aside.

he was challenged on it. Larry Wilmore said very plainly that it's not true. What, was the panel supposed to magically produce the statistic? Perhaps yell it until Milo conceded? Look, people that want to believe that garbage will believe Milo no matter what that panel did... And then there are those of us that knew it was false, decided to look it up anyway, and have our thoughts validated. Just in case you're about to tell me that "not enough people do the latter", did you think a "successful" ass-ripping of Milo would turn people into an informed electorate?

He best troll is the troll that combines his absurdity with a degree of substance. He had none. Zero. He's Ann Coulter in new packaging.

 

[plagiarize]

You know what guys? I owe a huge mea culpa here. I quoted myself above to give context on my feelings about this, but after watching it last night, I was disgusted with the way maher handled the whole thing.

There is no proof of any transgender people attacking women in bathrooms, even if someone quotes a case here or there, its miniscule compared to the transgender population. For milo to say he does not want "perverts" in bathrooms and bill to say tht was a good point, instead of using data to show that for what it really is, discrimnation, was disgusting. Larry was my hero for the way he contextualized everything, but it sounded moot over maher and milo jerking eachother off.

I still stand by what I said in a general sense, but Maher just lost me completely. He is doing way more harm than good. In this specific case, I was wrong.

Thank you for being big enough to admit it.

I've seen a lot of right leaning friends quoting and namedropping the troll all of a sudden since the mess in Berkeley. He can complain about his free speech being infringed all he wants... but the truth is that he's been gifted a bigger platform (and more fans) by all of this, and he knows it.

 

[dead souls]

"You need to bring higher IQ guests onto your show!"

The two people speaking against him were black guys.

Literally using Stormfront talking points.

Yep. That was definitely some Bell Curve type bullshit. I didn't think I could hate Maher any more than I already do but having this asshole on his show proved me wrong.

 

[March of the Crabs]

The Overtime was much better. Wish that was on TV.

 

[Kinsei]

Your "most people in the world believe" creation aside.

he was challenged on it. Larry Wilmore said very plainly that it's not true. What, was the panel supposed to magically produce the statistic? Perhaps yell it until Milo conceded? Look, people that want to believe that garbage will believe Milo no matter what that panel did... And then there are those of us that knew it was false, decided to look it up anyway, and have our thoughts validated. Just in case you're about to tell me that "not enough people do the latter", did you think a "successful" ass-ripping of Milo would turn people into an informed electorate?

He best troll is the troll that combines his absurdity with a degree of substance. He had none. Zero. He's Ann Coulter in new packaging.

Yes. Maybe when you invite someone on for a "debate" you should actually DO SOME FUCKING RESEARCH ON THEM.

 

[Lois_Lane]

Your "most people in the world believe" creation aside.

he was challenged on it. Larry Wilmore said very plainly that it's not true. What, was the panel supposed to magically produce the statistic? Perhaps yell it until Milo conceded? Look, people that want to believe that garbage will believe Milo no matter what that panel did... And then there are those of us that knew it was false, decided to look it up anyway, and have our thoughts validated. Just in case you're about to tell me that "not enough people do the latter", did you think a "successful" ass-ripping of Milo would turn people into an informed electorate?

He best troll is the troll that combines his absurdity with a degree of substance. He had none. Zero. He's Ann Coulter in new packaging.

What are you talking about? We're attacking Maher not Larry. Heck, some of us think Larry should have Maher's job since Maher's got less spine than the GOP.

 

[DontBeThatGuy]

So, absolutely a win-win for Milo, as I thought. Good job, Maher.

 

[royalan]

Glad Bill could find some "common ground" with this dude.

The most disgusting thing about this "we gotta protect the women and/or children!" line is that it's the exact same argument that's been used throughout history to discriminate against marginal groups, including gay men.

 

[RinsFury]

"You remind me of a young, alive Christopher Hitchens"

Ugh. That is making me feel ill. How could he fucking say that?

 

[Goodstyle]

Bill Maher exposed himself as a worm in my eyes.

 

[Toxi]

Yes. Maybe when you invite someone on for a "debate" you should actually DO SOME FUCKING RESEARCH ON THEM.

This is like if you showed up to a debate with a creationist and couldn't respond to the claim that the bombardier beetle's defense mechanism is too complicated to evolve through natural selection.

 

[plagiarize]

So, absolutely a win-win for Milo, as I thought. Good job, Maher.

How many smart people don't seem to get that the Berkeley protest turning violent was a win-win for him, or that any TV appearance no matter the show is going to be a win-win for him, is something I really struggle to wrap my head around.

Sure, protest his events and views, but don't try and stop him speaking. Just as the attempts by GamerGate to prevent Anita Sarkeesian get a platform only gave her a bigger one, that's all that's going to happen here.

I wish the person who refused to go on the show with him had just gone on the show. Because that just helped hype the appearance too.

He is razor sharp, and seems to have found the perfect balance where liberals just become incensed at the outrageous things he says, but republicans (and many neutrals) fail to see a problem because of his calm demeanor and measured tone.

 

[Carcetti]

So Milo went in to share his peace of shit views and Maher basically went 'Well, your lies about this minority are sure reasonable, ok then'.

Fuck off, Maher.

 

[TheOddOne]

The most disgusting thing about this "we gotta protect the women and/or children!" line is that it's the exact same argument that's been used throughout history to discriminate against marginal groups, including gay men.

Larry Wilmore said the exact same thing.

 

[Voyr]

What would've been "good": If Milo wouldn't even have been able to attack other people because they're women again, as seen in the link of this poster:



The "showing that he's an idiot" thing sure did work out good for Trump, eh?

You don't think so? He's proving exactly what we all knew.

What... You think his election is some sort of referendum on the country, and not just the fact that a) Hillary was the worst possible offering, b) the DNC plainly fucked up, and c) people stayed home and didn't think Donald had a chance.

Donald does not win if he faces someone without the kind of baggage that accompanied Hillary Clinton. Period. Half of his voter-pool was more anti-Hillary than Pro-Trump.

Time to stop pretending the trolls have legitimately won the day. The country got caught sleeping.

 

[FunkyMonk]

The most disgusting thing about this "we gotta protect the women and/or children!" line is that it's the exact same argument that's been used throughout history to discriminate against marginal groups, including gay men.

Milo doesn't give a shit about gay men though, he's on record as being annoyed by homosexuality being more accepted as it's not shocking anymore so he had to find a new way to shock people. This is the cancer that some people are saying should be given platforms and be rationally debated.

Milo only cares about milo. That's it.

 

[Oersted]

You don't think so? He's proving exactly what we all knew.

What... You think his election is some sort of referendum on the country, and not just the fact that a) Hillary was the worst possible offering, b) the DNC plainly fucked up, and c) people stayed home and didn't think Donald had a chance.

Donald does not win if he faces someone without the kind of baggage that accompanied Hillary Clinton. Period. Half of his voter-pool was more anti-Hillary than Pro-Trump.

Time to stop pretending the trolls have legitimately won the day. The country got caught sleeping.

Their guy runs the place for 4 years. That is a win.

 

[Breads]

I don't really get why he thinks he doesn't have the right to free speech. He says a bunch of bullshit, then people respond with "Fuck that's a lot of bullshit." Where is his right to free speech being violated?

In a post truth world this is a rallying cry used to bring the bigots out and throw money at him. Convincing bigots that they were actually oppressed is one of the primary reasons why they hold him up so high. The fuck does it matter how nonsense the premise of the argument is if it gets their dicks hard.

 

[plagiarize]

You don't think so? He's proving exactly what we all knew.

What... You think his election is some sort of referendum on the country, and not just the fact that a) Hillary was the worst possible offering, b) the DNC plainly fucked up, and c) people stayed home and didn't think Donald had a chance.

Donald does not win if he faces someone without the kind of baggage that accompanied Hillary Clinton. Period. Half of his voter-pool was more anti-Hillary than Pro-Trump.

Time to stop pretending the trolls have legitimately won the day. The country got caught sleeping.

Right, and lets not forget that more people voted for Clinton than him. 'America' may have voted for Donald Trump as a geographic nation, but 'Americans' voted for someone else more than they voted for him.

As a Clinton supporter, I feel compelled to point that I feel a lot of that 'baggage' attached to Clinton wasn't of her making, and in many cases was just abjectly untrue or unfair...

But even as a Clinton supporter I can see that how disliked she was, absolutely was one of the things that cost her the win.

 

[Sethista]

Yes. Maybe when you invite someone on for a "debate" you should actually DO SOME FUCKING RESEARCH ON THEM.

This a thousand times. Anyone on maher's team could wath any of his speeches, research the data to disprove his discriminatory beliefs and present them to maher on a silver plater.

Larry was incredible, but I think he trusted maher to do hs research, which he clearly didnt.

Maher called them protect girls from weirdos in the bathroom, and then shrugged that off as a joke. Man I stil cant believe it.

 

[MUnited83]

That went even worse than I could have imagined. Holy fucking shit Maher, what a disgrace. So much for the "debating those dumbasses is essential to make them look like the fools they are". Milo won and is probably laughing right. Here you go, this is what you get when you give a piece of shit like Milo a platform. You did exactly nothing to stop his bullshit and you helped him to spread his propaganda.

 

[royalan]

How many smart people don't seem to get that the Berkeley protest turning violent was a win-win for him, or that any TV appearance no matter the show is going to be a win-win for him, is something I really struggle to wrap my head around.

Sure, protest his events and views, but don't try and stop him speaking. Just as the attempts by GamerGate to prevent Anita Sarkeesian get a platform only gave her a bigger one, that's all that's going to happen here.

I wish the person who refused to go on the show with him had just gone on the show. Because that just helped hype the appearance too.

He is razor sharp, and seems to have found the perfect balance where liberals just become incensed at the outrageous things he says, but republicans (and many neutrals) fail to see a problem because of his calm demeanor and measured tone.

Nobody is preventing Milo from speaking. But people who allegedly disagree with his views should not offer him a platform.

The frustrating thing is the insistent refusal to see people like Milo as as abnormal. Milo is NOT a normal conservative to invite on your show and have a friendly back-and-forth with. The days of Ann Coulter being the most offensive voice from the right are long since passed.

Milo is a parrot who only exists to push a hateful ideology that has and will continue to get people hurt. And you don't give a platform to that because you're pompous enough to believe that all Milo needs is to be exposed to your bullshit "liberalism" to see the light, Bill.

 

[plagiarize]

Milo doesn't give a shit about gay men though, he's on record as being annoyed by homosexuality being more accepted as it's not shocking anymore so he had to find a new way to shock people. This is the cancer that some people are saying should be given platforms and be rationally debated.

Milo only cares about milo. That's it.

Yup.

Think about it people, the guy attached himself to gamergate when he doesn't give two shits about games, and attached himself to the politics of a foreign nation.

He hasn't done any of this because he 'cares' about either of those things.

 

[krazen]

You don't think so? He's proving exactly what we all knew.

What... You think his election is some sort of referendum on the country, and not just the fact that a) Hillary was the worst possible offering, b) the DNC plainly fucked up, and c) people stayed home and didn't think Donald had a chance.

Donald does not win if he faces someone without the kind of baggage that accompanied Hillary Clinton. Period. Half of his voter-pool was more anti-Hillary than Pro-Trump.

Time to stop pretending the trolls have legitimately won the day. The country got caught sleeping.

Nope. When 42% of the population goes, "I know he's got homophobic, racist, and anti immigrant views, but im voting for him anyway! Amright!?" its not the country sleeping; its a large amount of the country showing their true stripes...hence this post and the rise of Milo having a career, rise in anti-semetic attacks, legal green card holders getting them revoked with large amounts of people applauding it...etc.

 

[plagiarize]

Nobody is preventing Milo from speaking. But people who allegedly disagree with his views should not offer him a platform.

The frustrating thing is the insistent refusal to see people like Milo as as abnormal. Milo is NOT a normal conservative to invite on your show and have a friendly back-and-forth with. The days of Ann Coulter being the most offensive voice from the right are long since passed.

Milo is a parrot who only exists to push a hateful ideology that has and will continue to get people hurt. And you don't give a platform to that because you're pompous enough to believe that all Milo needs is to be exposed to your bullshit "liberalism" to see the light, Bill.

The protesters at Berkeley were trying to get his event cancelled.

But I should have been clearer that I don't want anyone to give this guy a platform. But if someone offers him one, it's the wrong approach to try and prevent him from taking that stage because that just gives him more publicity.

I don't want him booked. I won't even write his name.

What gives him less publicity? That's the question we need to ask ourselves before responding to something he's doing. Because publicity is what he wants.

That's why I won't watch the show or the segments.