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Miniature Gaming-Age (WH40k, Warmachine, Etc.)
- Thread starter BattleMonkey
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So, what to do with Immortals? Before Christmas I was thinking getting something really basic, like one or two sets of Warriors, a set of Immortals and a Lord to start playing. Got Immortals and Lord for Christmas and now I found some time to assemble and paint them. The question is, how would it be best to outfit them in current situation - Gauss or Tesla? I assume Deathmarks would fit better for more advanced play?
StaffyManasse
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Aaaaaawww yeaaaaaaah praise the Emperor!
Tactical squad
Also got the gold paint I was lacking.
To the painting room my brothers!
Tactical squad
Command squad
Captain
And transfers for days
Also got the gold paint I was lacking.
To the painting room my brothers!
BattleMonkey
Member
Maybe it falls under the "And many, many more!"
Hope, or just kinda roll it into Necromunda as one big Skirmish rule set
BattleMonkey
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I just fear FW being involved and whole specialist range thing, that pricing is going to be crazy. I'm hoping for at least return of awesome old school GW style boxed games full of terrain and minis as starter sets.
Be hilarious to see the reactions if they attempted to kickstart these things instead
Be hilarious to see the reactions if they attempted to kickstart these things instead
BattleMonkey
Member
Got my Mercs: Recon stuff from the kickstarter. Kinda mixed bag on mini quality sadly, some folks online have posted pics of theirs being far worse so I should just be satisfied with what I got. The cardboard boards used in the box sets is pretty awful, I'm likely going to have to take part of their replacement plan they said they would be doing.
Yea, I hope they realize a good value big box is attractive and great way to entice new buyers
Yea, I hope they realize a good value big box is attractive and great way to entice new buyers
I've been looking at this and it looks pretty fun.
Do you think it's a worthwhile game to play if you already have an active 40k group? Are the rules or units different enough to 40k?
StaffyManasse
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Yes! Thought that workday would never end. Nice -21 celsius outside, going to put a fire into the fireplace and get to painting.
And I realized one got misplaced a bit. Guess I'll have to deal with it...
Betrayal at Calth is a VERY different game from 40k, that is much faster, much easier to grasp and loads of fun. Plus you can still use the minis in 40k. I don't know if GW will ever release more rules and minis for it though. Forge World's 30k ruleset is just better 40k if you like playing Marines IMO.
It's a 40k-themed board game, not a miniatures game like 40k. nothing really in common with 40k rules-wise.
StaffyManasse
Member
Work in progress: Ultramarines 3rd Company Combat Squad
edit. GAH just saw the messed up eye on one of them when I posted this. You're going to see some brush, young man!
Basecoated:
And inked:
Next will be painting the areas that got too much shade back to their original colour (mostly blue), adding highlights and then some minor details like working on the eyes and adding the texts to the purity seals.
Red parts were tricky. From black primer I went first grey and then started to add layers of red. I feel like the paint itself is a bit harder to manage and I think I did get a bit too thick paint in some spots.
The gold I used is GW Balthasar Gold and as you can see, it is a bit more dim one and goes to orange more than yellow. I actually kinda like it. The orange works with blue obviously and I don't want my Ultra's to look too much like Swedish national ice hockey team... I still might try adding some golden highlights with maybe mixing the Balthasar with my silver paint. Could that work?
Also I think I'm going to have to buy a desk lamp with a magnifier. Some of the details like the eyes are hard for me to paint because I can't always see all the detail and were exactly the brush is going to land.
And when I do buy my first set of Marines that come unassembled, I'm going to magnetise the heck out of them, just so that I don't have to paint the chest aquila with the bolter in the way.
edit. Found this on painting red. Geez, that's a lot of different reds. I only have one.
edit. GAH just saw the messed up eye on one of them when I posted this. You're going to see some brush, young man!
Basecoated:
And inked:
Next will be painting the areas that got too much shade back to their original colour (mostly blue), adding highlights and then some minor details like working on the eyes and adding the texts to the purity seals.
Red parts were tricky. From black primer I went first grey and then started to add layers of red. I feel like the paint itself is a bit harder to manage and I think I did get a bit too thick paint in some spots.
The gold I used is GW Balthasar Gold and as you can see, it is a bit more dim one and goes to orange more than yellow. I actually kinda like it. The orange works with blue obviously and I don't want my Ultra's to look too much like Swedish national ice hockey team... I still might try adding some golden highlights with maybe mixing the Balthasar with my silver paint. Could that work?
Also I think I'm going to have to buy a desk lamp with a magnifier. Some of the details like the eyes are hard for me to paint because I can't always see all the detail and were exactly the brush is going to land.
And when I do buy my first set of Marines that come unassembled, I'm going to magnetise the heck out of them, just so that I don't have to paint the chest aquila with the bolter in the way.
edit. Found this on painting red. Geez, that's a lot of different reds. I only have one.
Looking good, my man, though yeah a few areas look like the paint might be too thick.
I remain jealous. I should be doing some painting tomorrow night, so I'll have something to show off too, even if it's just my fixed up Grots
StaffyManasse
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Thanks! I'm keeping my eye on this thread and wait for your Grots. Looking forward to seeing some boyz too, and that truck.
It's horrible looking at your own miniatures from those huge pictures. They look so much better on the table!
BattleMonkey
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That feeling when your primer goes on gritty
Was gonna paint my Robotech figs finally, bunch of my valks now have a gritty primer coat, shit is a paint in the ass to get off
Was gonna paint my Robotech figs finally, bunch of my valks now have a gritty primer coat, shit is a paint in the ass to get off
SillyEskimo
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That feeling when your primer goes on gritty
Was gonna paint my Robotech figs finally, bunch of my valks now have a gritty primer coat, shit is a paint in the ass to get off
That sucks. How many did you prime before you noticed?
StaffyManasse
Member
Well, here they are. Again, any advice is welcome!
I know I could do more / better edge highlights, but frankly they stress me out and I feel like I don't have the required brush control yet.
I know I could do more / better edge highlights, but frankly they stress me out and I feel like I don't have the required brush control yet.
BattleMonkey
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Squad of the plane mode valks all got gritted. Meh
That feeling when your primer goes on gritty
Was gonna paint my Robotech figs finally, bunch of my valks now have a gritty primer coat, shit is a paint in the ass to get off
dude. dude. dude.......
I feel ya. I powered through my Orcs from LOTR.. but yeah, I am pretty fucking pissed. It was literally my first painting in like 25 years. and I let them sit for a year and a half.
I've also been watching a ton of how to paint on WarhammerTV on youtube.. and holy god almighty did I water down my paints way too much on the pallete.. duncan or whatever on there grabs like one swipe of paint on the brush right from the little lip that's on Citadel paints... one dip of water, and then starts basecoating.. mine was watery as shit.. which meant is didn't grip to the brush well AT ALL and... I just don't even want to discuss it anymore.
arggh. Looking at picking up a starter set from something.. Debating right now between Age of Sigmar, 40K, or Warmachine/Hordes.. or Wrath of Kings. taking suggestions in fact.
StaffyManasse
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I don't think your orcs look as bad as you make it sound. Better a bit too thin paint than too thick, no? I think they look very LOTR-the movie-ish and I believe that's what you were going for. The armours and the faces look good.
As for what game to get, I can only say 40k because I am full on 40k hype mode right now. Don't have any serious arguments as to why though.
As for what game to get, I can only say 40k because I am full on 40k hype mode right now. Don't have any serious arguments as to why though.
BattleMonkey
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Man got the AVP mini game opened finally, the minis are damn fine quality. Prodos stuff is pricey, but can't say the quality isn't impressive on the sculpts and plastic quality. Almost no clean up at all needed on these figs. Game sounds kinda rough, but do love some colonial marines and xenos.
StaffyManasse
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Are you going to paint them? If you do, post some pics!
BattleMonkey
Member
My backlog of stuff to paint is so huge lol. Was gonna attempt to repaint an X-Wing fig next to make it Poe's custom black/orange. But got ton of Robotech figs that need me
so more explicitly to my earlier question..
what are some of the mini games (besides X-Wing and Armada which I am already started on) are good to get in on? I know of the following, that all look to have solid minis..
Age of Sigmar
40K
Warmachine
Hordes
Wrath of Kings
Infinity
I am also a bit curious about the Batman mini game from Knight Models.
If anyone has thoughts, suggestions, or even just knows of possible sites/blogs that offer comparisons of any/all of them that would be awesome.
what are some of the mini games (besides X-Wing and Armada which I am already started on) are good to get in on? I know of the following, that all look to have solid minis..
Age of Sigmar
40K
Warmachine
Hordes
Wrath of Kings
Infinity
I am also a bit curious about the Batman mini game from Knight Models.
If anyone has thoughts, suggestions, or even just knows of possible sites/blogs that offer comparisons of any/all of them that would be awesome.
BattleMonkey
Member
I kinda always try to push for trying to find the mini games that you can find players for around you. Lot of those are cool games, but I've already been stuck with so many minis and games that have no community to play with.
It's important to have people to play with. If you have others interested in getting into a game with you then I am about to make your job harder with some more good games:
Beyond the Gates of Antares
Guild Ball
Kings of War
Frostgrave
Dropzone Commander
Warpath
Arena Rex
BattleTech
Dark Age
Malifaux
MERCs
Deadzone
Dreadball
And many more.
You should give us an idea of what you expect out of a miniature game. Scale? (battle size as well as miniature size) Genre? Density of rules? Clarity of rules? Balance?
SillyEskimo
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The best day.
Blood Bowl sounds watered down from when I was a kid (80s kid who saw the birth of "Rogue Trader" )
You know what I want? Something with good gothic horror in it. 28-40mm. The more Lovecraft the better.
2nd place would be steampunk.
3rd place would be gunslinger variation on shooting.
(80s kid who saw the birth of "Rogue Trader" )You know what I want? Something with good gothic horror in it. 28-40mm. The more Lovecraft the better.
2nd place would be steampunk.
3rd place would be gunslinger variation on shooting.
StaffyManasse
Member
There they are! They do look better after your finishing touches. And I agree it's good to just call a project (table) ready at some point, take what you have learned and move on to the next one. Waiting for the boyz to make an appearance!
Also that infection sounds nasty. Ouch.
BattleMonkey
Member
Yea pretty much Malifaux is spot on
You know that FFG's going to release Poe's Xwing eventually.
Blood Bowl sounds watered down from when I was a kid
You know what I want? Something with good gothic horror in it. 28-40mm. The more Lovecraft the better.
2nd place would be steampunk.
3rd place would be gunslinger variation on shooting.
Malifaux as a pure pvp miniature game. Shadows of Brimstone as a miniature based board dungeon crawl.
BattleMonkey
Member
Maybe, just don't see them doing it as a single release though since its a single pilot custom job. I could see them doing it for inclusion in a larger set maybe. Maybe a set with an updated tfa falcon?
StaffyManasse
Member
Tried painting with a wet palette and it's awesome!
yeah.. right now hemming and hawing between Malifaux, Warmachines, and Hordes. The big draw to either of the Warhammers is that there are a ton of shops around here for that, including an actual Games Workshop store with tons of support. Warmahordes seems to have the second best support (well technically X-Wing easily has the second best, but for traditional wargames, Warmahordes).. the rest are all pretty loosely knit.
edit - this is already a second game to note. In the last month I've already dropped a notable amount of coin on X-Wing.
edit 2 - I stand corrected.. there is regular Malifaux at a shop about 13 mins away... hmmm.
edit - this is already a second game to note. In the last month I've already dropped a notable amount of coin on X-Wing.
edit 2 - I stand corrected.. there is regular Malifaux at a shop about 13 mins away... hmmm.
My one critique of the movie is that they really didn't introduce many new starships.
What I can see is also releasing a two part set, with Poe's Tie Fighter as well.
IIRC, Malifaux has a considerably smaller model count than Warmachine/Hordes. Most units cap at 3 instead of 6 and less of them, etc.
I totally agree about the starships.
So many great, iconic ones in the OT & plenty of cool ones in the prequels too.
Rey's speeder looked legit, at least.
x-wing players are freaking out about the new movie's lack of ships.. but there are still ALL of the ships from the PT, Clone Wars, and now Rebels.. plenty of ships for X-Wing.
Armada we'll have to see. So far they seem firmly planted in OT.. but still, there is a bunch of content from the same sagas above that they could turn to for Armada (and actually PT and Clone Wars had some really nice capital ships for Armada)