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Mississippi House passes bill to legalize execution by firing squad
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Lucky, we have no shortages of bullets in the US
They aim for the heart, not the head. The squad ensures that at least one of the multiple shots is likely to hit the target correctly, and also provides plausible deniability (to clear the conscience of the shooters) by giving the option of adding one or more blanks to the guns of the shooters in the squad.
Atomic Playboy
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There are eyewitness reports that the heads of guillotined victims could continue making movements for several seconds after being severed, so it's possible that such a method is more painful than we would anticipate. The firing squad is actually usually pretty quick and painless because taking 5 rifle bullets all aimed at the heart tends to be instantly fatal; you don't die from bleeding out, you die because your heart is obliterated. Lethal injection seems the most humane, but we've had a number of stories in the last year or so about botched executions, so that's not great. Regardless, you're talking about taking a life; no matter how humane you make it, the human body is going to resist any attempt to kill it, so there's no real perfect solution. I don't think the issue is bringing back specific forms of capital punishment, I think the issue is (remains) should we have capital punishment in the first place?
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Who comes up with this shit? "Hey Phil how can we get people to shoot someone who poses no threat w/o giving them PTSD"
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Deleted member 1235
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ive never understood lethal injection why not just sedate you then whack of your head? i mean lethal injection seems like it is designed to torture. putting a dog or a cat down is instant, just use that shit?!
ImpracticalPassword
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orientalNoodle
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Public street execution too?
excelsiorlef
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That and the goal isn't to disfigure.
I'm not sure if that's how it'd work in practice. That being said, I'm not sure why they don't just get a contraption that would get a perfect headshot on the person in an automated fashion to avoid responsibility.
excelsiorlef
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Dash_Riprock
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Because it would be messy and gore-filled. Same reason the guillotine isn't used anymore even if, as has been pointed out its probably the most painless way of executing someone.
Not really quick, if the executioners have poor aim. Or maybe bullets won't do large enough wounds, wrong ammo type, or whatever else can go wrong. Humans are rather resilient.
Also very messy death in all likelihood, if you must have something as stupid as death penalty, it should be dignified. Unfortunately, there are no easy methods of killing without mutilating the person, or letting them suffer (eg gas chamber, electric chair which is somewhat unreliable).
Here's a thing, there is little difference in what is needed to cause unconsciousness and death. There is not such thing as a safe knock-out punch. Anything that can knock a person out is very close to killing them, and brain damage is likely if the person survives.
Lethal injections? Not reliable either, not without trained personnel and without right stuff.
killer rin
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Absolutely disgusting. Stop regressing USA.
I mean, they aren't hitting them with shotguns and machine guns here. We're talking Pistols and single shot rifles against a stationary target. It'll be a clean shot no matter what. From that point all it takes is some clay and makeup and you can hide the holes for an open casket funeral.
I mean, they aren't hitting them with shotguns and machine guns here. We're talking Pistols and single shot rifles against a stationary target. It'll be a clean shot no matter what. From that point all it takes is some clay and makeup and you can hide the holes for an open casket funeral.
Air Zombie Meat
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I'm guessing anything that leaves a body mutilated is a no go. People like to think of these executions as clean and civilized and you've got to think of the family of the deceased.
excelsiorlef
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Don't even need makeup, wounds in the chest, suit covers wounds.
They ain't shooting them in the fucking head.
killer rin
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Agh, that would be worse. If they got shot in the chest they would still be alive while they bled out. Atleast if it was to the head it would be nearly instant.
excelsiorlef
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Usually it obliterates the heart.
4 to 5 bullets to the head will do a lot more psychical damage to the head than you think and you'd still run the risk of fucked up survival.
Like this is stupid and shouldn't happen but no shooting the head isn't better.
Headshots aren't necessarily instant death, nor do they even automatically cause unconsciousness. Remember the story of Phineas Gage, who got an iron rod through his head, survived and didn't even lose his consciousness. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phineas_Gage
TickleMeElbow
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What about fully sedating them, and draining their blood?
D1renegade
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I'm okay with this
Well, that requires anesthesia and that requires a trained personnel to do it properly, something i understand may not be always possible, which is why some executions with lethal injections have been botched.
That said, exsanguination is apparently reasonably painless. (And, i guess the blood (and organs) could be used elsewhere then.) But try selling the idea to people.
Hanging is slow, if done by suffocation, tricky if done by snapping the neck. And generally seen as shameful or otherwise a bad way to go... Long ago, it was reserved for traitors and petty thieves. I don't think that image has changed even nowadays, when capital punishment isn't used in much of the west.
Nemesis121
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Trump's America is pure shit, Racist cunts every where, and the Orange cunt is just empowering them..
Indrid Cold1
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Is this meant to be a bad thing? I would well prefer this over any of the other possible methods of execution available in the US
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Air Zombie Meat
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How about the north korea method? Instant obliteration by an anti aircraft gun.
The stories about executions done with AA guns or mortars or whatever else are most likely South Korea propaganda. Considering how poor NK is, i'd imagine they likely execute people with single bullet (neck, from behind, like Chinese do according to some reports), hanging or maybe just slicing their throat, or by some other economical mean.
Spiral Insanity
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I wonder what contract they signed to buy rifles with. This is the gun lobbyists' doing.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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IIRC european pharma companies decided not to allow their drugs to be used to kill people anymore and that's part of where the shortage comes from.
This kind of move almost sounds like a threat "here's what we'll do when you refuse to give us drugs to kill people" sort of way.
This kind of move almost sounds like a threat "here's what we'll do when you refuse to give us drugs to kill people" sort of way.
Violence Jack
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It's Mississippi. It's like they feel like they have to beat out Trump towards a race to the bottom of the barrel.
One Eyed Willy
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This is my thought
This wouldn't be american enough.
Depending on the person's neck muscles and how you set the rope, hanging can put a person out pretty much like a light even without a long drop. It's pretty much the same way autoerotic asphyxiation victims just pass out before they even realize what they did wrong.
An inert gas hood would probably be the most painless way of doing it though.
John Rabbit
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I don't think any of the currently employed methods of the death penalty are particularly humane. This actually seems to be more humane (read: quicker and less enduring pain) than a botched injection or the electric chair.
Honestly just put a gun against my head and do it.
Honestly just put a gun against my head and do it.
BibiMaghoo
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Same but I think getting shot in the heart isn't so quick and painless either. They don't shoot people in the head do they?
Air Zombie Meat
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For the most part yeah, but I was under the impression that the AA gun method is reserved for high ranking officials.
StrongBlackVine
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Yes.
pelicansurf
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If this has to be done, just sit a guy down in a chair and have a robot/mechanism fire a handgun into the back of the inmate's skull. That way it's quick and there's not 5 dudes who are scarred for life.
Knuckle Sandwich
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I'm against the death penalty but firing squad seems preferable to the chair or the needle.
Milly Osworth
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Death penalty is barbaric no matter how you do it. Join the 21st century america...
Assumes correct execution (har har). Too often personnel handling things are incompetent somehow. Like when they hanged Saddam Hussein.
I thought those states with capital punishment usually have one primary method, and possibly alternatives if the prisoner wants or the primary is not possible for whatever reason. But i guess it depends on the state.
There'd be no face left then.
Also, someone must still activate the robot, ergo, that person is the executioner.
Again, this isn't something that ever fully went away.
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We can debate capital punishment, but getting hung up on this method as being caused by Trump or being something unheard of in the US today isn't accurate.
The last firing squad execution was only 7 years ago.
StrongBlackVine
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Some crimes are so heinous that you don't deserve to breathe any more. I see no problem in trying to choose the most humane, neat or painless way to get it done.
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