Mixed Martial Arts - the Official Discussion & General Info

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yacobod said:
matt hughes went down to hawaii for 9 days to train with bj penn for this camp. not sure who else he's had in but i'd imagine its largely the same cast of characters
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He brought in Floyd Sr to work on his hands!
 
Who does Fitch fight if he wins? The loser of GSP/Shields, right? It's gotta be that, or maybe the winner of Diego/Kampmann (not good enough IMO).

Koscheck would be the obvious move, but of course they're ATT buddies.
 
Fifty said:
Who does Fitch fight if he wins? The loser of GSP/Shields, right? It's gotta be that, or maybe the winner of Diego/Kampmann (not good enough IMO).

Koscheck would be the obvious move, but of course they're ATT buddies.
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Well if GSP does actually move up to 185 that means he'd be vacating the WW title, so I imagine it'd be Fitch vs. a top contender in a title eliminator. Winner of Diego/Kampmann is probably the best bet.
 
AstroLad said:
As the world's lone Fitch fan, it's a pretty interesting fight. I just hope BJ is actually prepared as that has been a real big issue and I don't necessarily think Jon Fitch is someone that would get him amped and training. Otherwise we will get three rounds of him getting dominated and his corner telling him he's winning and how Fitch doesn't even belong in the same city as him. Is he still with the same camp from the Edgar fights?
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Why in the fuck would Fitch not be a compelling opponent for BJ? Fitch is the unsolvable riddle (as long as you're not GSP). BJ wins this and he's the only guy other than GSP to beat him in the UFC. That puts him right back into WW title contention, or the proverbial "in the mix" at the very least.

Honestly though, if BJ wins I would LOVE to see him and Condit throw down. That would be an epic matchup.
 
Fifty said:
Who does Fitch fight if he wins? The loser of GSP/Shields, right? It's gotta be that, or maybe the winner of Diego/Kampmann (not good enough IMO).

Koscheck would be the obvious move, but of course they're ATT buddies.
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AKA buddies you mean. Opposite side of the country.
 
Brian Fellows said:
Yeah and at one place they teach you to break bones. At the other they just teach you to rub your bone on other guys.
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SnakeXs said:
Fedor backpedals on retirement talk.

Which is to say M-1 probably threatened him, his favorite kitty, his family, and his favorite church.
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Yeah that is fucking sad really. Vadummy is gonna make him fight until he's KO'd 3 times in a row or some shit. I hate M-1 SO MUCH for fucking up Fedor's career. It started all the way back with that Inoki-Bom-Ba-Ye shit where the M-1 guys' dealings put things into motion that ended up killing PRIDE. Even back then Fedor's management would shy away from the tough opponents, holding them off as long as possible while taking gimme fights.

He really seemed sincere on Saturday when he said it may be time to stop. I don't want to see Fedor go out like Chuck did.

And what the fuck is all this crazy talk about Fedor getting back in the tourney? Shane Del Rosario won the match to become the #1 alternate. If they actually let Fedor back in ahead of Shane then this whole grand prix is a joke. Have Fedor fight the loser of Werdum/Overeem if he still really wants to fight.

And honestly after seeing what a gassing Bigfoot did to Fedor I almost don't want to see Fedor vs. The Reem anymore.
 
Poor Fedor.

I bet Dana would have helped him move his family to America and get them new identities in exchange for doing the job for Brock.
 
i think the only fights fedor should take are joke fights like sapp and minowaman. maybe let sakuraba armbar him for a few mil for vadim
 
Posts from his twitter a couple hours ago (I put these through a free translator site so they may not be perfect)
All many thanks for kind words and wishes. I wished to continue fight, the doctor has done the very best we can, but it has not turned out, unfortunately

About extension or completion of career we shall solve in the near future. As the God will give - so to that and to be
 
DKehoe said:
Posts from his twitter a couple hours ago (I put these through a free translator site so they may not be perfect)
All many thanks for kind words and wishes. I wished to continue fight, the doctor has done the very best we can, but it has not turned out, unfortunately

About extension or completion of career we shall solve in the near future. As the God will give - so to that and to be
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If you really think Fedor is typing those tweets and Vadim has nothing to do with that twitter account then I've got a bridge in Alaska (that you can see Russia from) to sell you.
 
polyh3dron said:
If you really think Fedor is typing those tweets and Vadim has nothing to do with that twitter account then I've got a bridge in Alaska to sell you.
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Nah, I don't. Fedor really doesn't seem the twittering type.
 
Fedor – “I rushed to declare my retirement. I will fight more. Possibly, I will return to the Heavyweight Grand-Prix. I am capable of having a few more fights. I didn’t make any analysis yet on why I lost. I need to recover, I can’t see very well yet.”
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Call Uncle Dana, dude. He can help you. :/
 
Fedor needs to get a nutritionist and a strength and conditioning coach then make the cut to 205. He'd be fucking ridiculous at 205 but there are no compelling 205 lb matchups outside of the UFC.
 
TruthJunky said:
I'm in agreement with the last few posters who think that BJ will have problems with Fitch.

3. Decisioning Fitch seems about as impossible as KOing Fitch, particularly with how MMA tends to be judged.

I'd like to see BJ win this fight. I'm just not sure how it happens.
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This fight can go the same way as GSP Kos 2. BJ keeps him on the other end of the jab. Avoids the takedowns, or gets back up right away if he is taken down. 15 mins later, Fitch's face is re-arranged and BJ has his arm raised. Think the Penn/Sherk fight, but Fitch is bigger and without the silly alligator arms.
 
thirty said:
it's obvious dana wants move up the champions silva and gsp so he can squeeze penn into welterweight championship.
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Why would they possibly want a great fighter who can put on interesting fights and shake up the division as champ?
 
Fedor´s camp has really gone crazy

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2011/2/15/1996406/fedors-coach-we-question-how-silva-gained-so-much-weight-in-24-hours

- Does it concern you that Silva was 10 kg heavier in the day of the fight, how can you explain such a tremendous weight-gain?

- Of course it amazed us. Think about it, how can the normal human-being gain 10 kg in 24 hours? There is something fishy here. The truth is, all our fighters, I am talking about Russian fighters here, that are fighting under M-1, train on their natural abilities. Of course, they take vitamins, but that's it. At the same time, all the foreign fighters, I think about 99% of them, are taking chemicals. Obviously it was not a problem for Silva to make a weight. He weighted 264 pounds in the day of the weigh-ins, and the next day, he was already over 280, he gained 10 kg...Its very hard to fight with opponent like this.
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- It was declared that during Grand-Prix, there will be a medical checking, that would find any attempts of taking illegal substances (steroids)?

- The situation is very unclear. For example, we hear rumors that two other quarterfinals may be fought in the state that is very liberal with the testing. Why? Because any kind of semi-deep testing will prevent Overeem from fighting. With an naked eye, you can see that he is gormandized with steroids. We asked organizers to use Olympic style testing, but they declined to do so. And that was the right decision, because otherwise, everyone will get busted but Fedor.
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and from sherdog forum and this appears to be legit

http://sherdognet.craveonline.com/index.php#http://lifesports.ru/news/51518

Mentor of the "Last Emperor" told the real reasons of the loss.
“Fedor was literally beaten throughout the fight. We believe that they used the forbidden psychological technologies.”

Trainer of Fedor Emelianenko convinced that illegal methods of psychological warfare were used against the Russian.
According to trainer Vladimir Voronov, both athletes have received various "charges" of hypnosis before the fight.
“ It seems that everything is not just right, and they used certain technologies,” said Voronov to Life Sports.
“Certainly not those that would see by the naked eye. Most likely, it was psychological technologies that worked on both fighters at a distance from the audience.
That is why Fedor was just not like himself during the fight.”

“Fedor’s behavior seemed very strange to me.
He stepped into the ring and did everything exactly the opposite what we practiced before the fight.
We were all shocked. This has never happened before.”
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Considering one of the M1 guys that Fedor trains with failed a drug test recently they really shouldn't be accusing the others of using PEDs while claiming they are all innocent.
 
M1 is going to kill Fedor. :(
Theyre bonkers.

About Overeem... he said he was cool to be tested with Olympic standards and what not.. but yeah his physique is too good to be 'true'.

The Reem Twitter said:
Dana is Dana and this was something you could expect. M-1 gambled big time and they lost. M-1 turned down a big UFC contract for big $$$. I believe in karma and M-1 was bad karma and it resultated in Fedor losing.. M-1 ruined his career and played with Fedor legacy, too bad!!!
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The Reem Twitter said:
A lot of people want my view about Fedor his fight. "Fedor has fought like a lion and never gave up, felt sorry for him because it was hard to watch the GOAT lose like that, respect to Bigfoot Silva great performance on his part."
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He sounds legit.

WAR REEM.
 
Those M1 statements are crazy. But how does one go gaining 20 lbs in 24hrs? Eat at buffets all day? that's crazy. Weigh in's should really be done the day of the fight
 
Host Samurai said:
Those M1 statements are crazy. But how does one go gaining 20 lbs in 24hrs? Eat at buffets all day? that's crazy. Weigh in's should really be done the day of the fight
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He's a huge dude, it's not at all that crazy. Dudes in much smaller weight classes cut that much.

You ween yourself off of anything that retains water (salt, namely), and you cut water weight.
 
Host Samurai said:
Those M1 statements are crazy. But how does one go gaining 20 lbs in 24hrs? Eat at buffets all day? that's crazy. Weigh in's should really be done the day of the fight
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I'm sure they just carb load after the weigh-ons.
 
SnakeXs said:
He's a huge dude, it's not at all that crazy. Dudes in much smaller weight classes cut that much.

You ween yourself off of anything that retains water (salt, namely), and you cut water weight.
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Bigfoot is an American Top Team product... y'know, like Thiago Alves, Gleison Tibau and Hector Lombard. That camp is known for its fighters doing insane weight cuts.
 
Host Samurai said:
Those M1 statements are crazy. But how does one go gaining 20 lbs in 24hrs? Eat at buffets all day? that's crazy. Weigh in's should really be done the day of the fight
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they dehydrate the shit out of themselves prior to the weigh-in and then re-hydrate intravenously right after.
 
polyh3dron said:
Bigfoot is an American Top Team product... y'know, like Thiago Alves, Gleison Tibau and Hector Lombard. That camp is known for its fighters doing insane weight cuts.
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Amongst other things!
 
dream said:
Amongst other things!
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Hey hey hey Antonio Silva and Josh Barnett were M-1 approved opponents for the great Fedor who are not chemist steroid bullies. It's Alistair Overeem that everyone should be worried about!
 
polyh3dron said:
Hey hey hey Antonio Silva and Josh Barnett were M-1 approved opponents for the great Fedor who are not chemist steroid bullies. It's Alistair Overeem that everyone should be worried about!
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It's true. With the naked eye, you can see he is gormandized with steroids.

Oh god, I'm gonna use this word so much today.
 
EviLore said:
Everyone would still cut weight, only it'd be more dangerous and we'd get worse fights.
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Yeah, but I think over time(sooner than later) we'd have people fighting closer to their natural weight.
That said, I'd imagine the regulating bodies or different organizations would be more strict with people missing weight...you know...someone like Alves.


I'm all for weigh ins the day of the fight, but I doubt it happening anytime soon.
 
h_a_t said:
Yeah, but I think over time(sooner than later) we'd have people fighting closer to their natural weight.
That said, I'd imagine the regulating bodies or different organizations would be more strict with people missing weight...you know...someone like Alves.


I'm all for weigh ins the day of the fight, but I doubt it happening anytime soon.
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Lay and pray is bad enough as it is. Giving fighters another reason to be heavier while their opponents lack the energy to buck and roll and you lacking the energy to do much more than lay there, the mere thought of it, bleh.
 
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