Oni Link 666
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http://www.news.com.au/technology/g...-u/story-e6frfrt9-1226071923070#ixzz1OjQL7AD0
Also smoothly dodges question about online
Also smoothly dodges question about online
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Miyamoto on using 2 controllers on Wii U
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civilstrife
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If their idea of a good online system is more internet browsing options, then we're fucked.
CoffeeJanitor
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Disappointing but the idea is starting to make sense now. Also, poop online is all but confirmed.
Really? Care to explain that?CoffeeJanitor said:Also, poop online is all but confirmed.
ThatCrazyGuy
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That's a weird answer about online. I don't think anybody cares about browsing photos on their console.
Why would you do that?
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Well, at least it's not totally out of the question...
However, it would be very nice if we could use the 3DS as a 3D screen. Well, except for its tiny resolution, lack of 2nd analog stick, and loss of L2 and R2. Actually, that's the exact same situation as the PS3/PSP.
However, it would be very nice if we could use the 3DS as a 3D screen. Well, except for its tiny resolution, lack of 2nd analog stick, and loss of L2 and R2. Actually, that's the exact same situation as the PS3/PSP.
CoffeeJanitor said:Disappointing but the idea is starting to make sense now. Also, poop online is all but confirmed.
EA is handling the online. EA is accustomed to having online options that exist on the PS3 and 360. Translation: It would be ridiculously foolish for EA to release an online system for the Wii U that does not allow it to bring its titles over intact with relative ease. The core functionality should, at the very least, be there.
GLopez12 said:Really? Care to explain that?
If it was something they've learned from and had serious plans and efforts put into, they'd let on a bit more.
Just a hunch.
CoffeeJanitor
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Seeing how the 3DS is being treated as well as following the roundtable tonight has not given me any confidence. They have also avoided talking About the online up to this point which tells me they've got nothing to showGLopez12 said:Really? Care to explain that?
ThoseDeafMutes
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Vinci said:EA is handling the online. EA is accustomed to having online options that exist on the PS3 and 360. Translation: It would be ridiculously foolish for EA to release an online system for the Wii U that does not allow it to bring its titles over intact with relative ease. The core functionality should, at the very least, be there.
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[Citation needed]
GrotesqueBeauty
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C'mon, who didn't think about the possibilities for multiplayer when they first heard about the controller? It'd be stupid not to include the functionality for multiple tablets if it's within reach.
Napoleonthechimp
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Here's my question: If a console has to render four separate images in split screen mode then why can't it render those same images at reduced quality and stream them to the controllers?
Why would you do that?
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Well they probably have nothing to show because they haven't finalized any plans yet. I mean, the system's over a year away. We didn't know about 3DS online plans when it was first announced, either.CoffeeJanitor said:Seeing how the 3DS is being treated as well as following the roundtable tonight has not given me any confidence. They have also avoided talking About the online up to this point which tells me they've got nothing to show
ThoseDeafMutes
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Napoleonthechimp said:Here's my question: If a console has to render four separate images in split screen mode then why can't it render those same images at reduced quality and stream them to the controllers?
It can in theory. The limitation is less likely to be about the horsepower required and more likely to be related to the wireless standard being used to stream data. Hence why they would need to "experiment" to see if they could get it to work.
civilstrife said:If their idea of a good online system is more internet browsing options, then we're fucked.
To be fair "Will its internet connectivity be different to that on the last Wii?" was a pretty broad easily dodge-able question. Should've just gone straight in asking about multiplayer online functionality.
Black Rainbow
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E3 2011, in regard to the Wii U, is about showing off the controller and the experiences it can facilitate. As Reggie has stated, online is a box that has been checked.SnakeXs said:If it was something they've learned from and had serious plans and efforts put into, they'd let on a bit more.
Just a hunch.
Ollie Pooch
In a perfect world, we'd all be homersexual
Good god. Someone asks about online and they take it as a question about browsing the internet? What are your plans for online gaming, Nintendo?
I really don't think they have any. Yes, it's 1.5 years away. But not even a hint of how they've 'learned' and 'improved' their service? If the 3ds is any indicator, the improvements will be laughable.
I really don't think they have any. Yes, it's 1.5 years away. But not even a hint of how they've 'learned' and 'improved' their service? If the 3ds is any indicator, the improvements will be laughable.
CoffeeJanitor
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Dude, this is Nintendo we're talking about here. They don't exactly inspire confidence with the way they approach online services.GLopez12 said:So because they're not talking giving out the online specifications about a system that's 1.5 years away, they've got nothing?
Do people always pull this kind of crap when a system is announced early?
Also, no one really knows if Nintendo is partnering for the online service. I'm pretty sure all of this goes back to a misunderstood iwata quote
I wouldn't be surprised. When I heard the EA CEO/whoever talking I was seriously expecting them to announce Nintendo and EA partnering for Origin as their online service. I think it'll be more of Nintendo being open and allowing these publishers to do these things. GRO is a good example of this although I'm hoping its not too open where there's no unified service. I don't have a lot of faith in them though.Vinci said:EA is handling the online. EA is accustomed to having online options that exist on the PS3 and 360. Translation: It would be ridiculously foolish for EA to release an online system for the Wii U that does not allow it to bring its titles over intact with relative ease. The core functionality should, at the very least, be there.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
This will be a console that is great for single player HD games....
...but I'm really sceptical that a single screen-controller could capture popular imagination, as the Wii did. No wonder the stock of Nintendo dropped. This is not really a sure selling idea at all..... Seems destined to shrink the market from Wii at least.
...but I'm really sceptical that a single screen-controller could capture popular imagination, as the Wii did. No wonder the stock of Nintendo dropped. This is not really a sure selling idea at all..... Seems destined to shrink the market from Wii at least.
civilstrife
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ThoseDeafMutes said:?
[Citation needed]
Um... it was in the conference.
ThoseDeafMutes
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civilstrife said:Um... it was in the conference.
I watched the conference live and don't recall that at all. The stream did freeze a few times but not for more than 10 seconds at a time.
TekkenMaster
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ThoseDeafMutes said:?
[Citation needed]
Didn't the president of EA announce it at Nintendo's press conference? He didn't go into any real detail but did say EA would handle the Wii U's online system.
yes. problem? deal with it.GLopez12 said:So because they're not talking giving out the online specifications about a system that's over one year away, they've got nothing?
Do people always act like this when a system is announced early?
Nice to see someone else as confident about this as I am.Vinci said:EA is handling the online. EA is accustomed to having online options that exist on the PS3 and 360. Translation: It would be ridiculously foolish for EA to release an online system for the Wii U that does not allow it to bring its titles over intact with relative ease. The core functionality should, at the very least, be there.
I just read that as PR spin because that's what it is. The whole selling point of Wii U is the controller and its being limited to 1 per console. How in the world would it be more convenient to use a 3DS when it's smaller, has only one nub etc. There has got to be a technical limitation to why it's only one Wii U controller per console and very much hope they can get that sorted up to release. Edit - Has it been announced that EA is handling online? I don't believe that, Nintedo letting an outside company take care of the whole online and that too a software publisher. No way, Nintendo make property discs so they don't have to pay royalties, would be very shocked if they ponied out x amount for EA to make their online. Like seriously, EA?
BlackSalad
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there was nothing of the sort in the conference. EA was there just to talk software support for the WiiU
Basileus777
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civilstrife said:Um... it was in the conference.
Nintendo having a publisher talk about their online at a press conference doesn't mean EA is developing their online system.
CoffeeJanitor
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The wii was like this. EAs games, cod and mhtri all had their own servicesExuro said:I wouldn't be surprised. When I heard the EA CEO/whoever talking I was seriously expecting them to announce Nintendo and EA partnering for Origin as their online service. I think it'll be more of Nintendo being open and allowing these publishers to do these things. GRO is a good example of this although I'm hoping its not too open where there's no unified service. I don't have a lot of faith in them though.
CoffeeJanitor
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We should probably get the jump to conclusions mat outBlackSalad said:there was nothing of the sort in the conference. EA was there just to talk software support for the WiiU
You're jumping to conclusions as much as anyone else.CoffeeJanitor said:We should probably get the jump to conclusions mat out
It's clear that Nintendo simply do not want to speak about online as of yet. Or power. Or most things about the system, really.
civilstrife said:Um... it was in the conference.
It was implied, but never stated. "We're proud to have a partnership with Nintendo for the online services of the WiiU" or anything of the sort was not said. The EA bloke went on about how great the partnership with Nintendo is, but never actually mentioned what that partnership is for. As mentioned earlier in this thread, though, the way the "announcement" was spoken made it seem as though Origin was going to be announced as the WiiU's online service infrastructure, but that never actually happened.
EA probably isn't even sure what exactly they're going to do with the WiiU if they are indeed handling the online. The entire announcement of the WiiU itself and related products/partnerships seemed at least six months too early.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
This is basically Virtual Boy 3.
Black Rainbow said:E3 2011, in regard to the Wii U, is about showing off the controller and the experiences it can facilitate. As Reggie has stated, online is a box that has been checked.
I didn't mean to state that was the case, merely that that's how one could jump to said conclusion.
Kai Dracon
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I think he is chatting about the photo browsing functions because of the Apple / living room tablet usage angle.
Passing the tablet around for a quick and convenient way to show people images, media, videos etc you're looking at is one of the most common conveniences of the tablet device.
He is just emphasizing that they've thought of this, and are also looking into tying it to the primary display (television) as well for even more flexibility.
A lot of the Wii U reveal has been split to get the idea across to the "other half" of the audience. Not the hardcore gamers.
For better or worse it's Nintendo. Even if they have a plan in place and are moving on it right now, they'll refuse to say a word or even give a hint until they think is the right time for the reveal. It's in their DNA.
In this one case, I do think their DNA is misleading them. They have to be aware of what people want at this point. Given how far the system is from launch they can't be reasonably expected to have all the particulars nailed down. However, they do need to make a general public statement acknowledging that they understand people require network structure on par with Xbox Live at the minimum. If only to stop people from spinning up a narrative that it's impossible Wii U will have good online "because Nintendo always sucks".
Passing the tablet around for a quick and convenient way to show people images, media, videos etc you're looking at is one of the most common conveniences of the tablet device.
He is just emphasizing that they've thought of this, and are also looking into tying it to the primary display (television) as well for even more flexibility.
A lot of the Wii U reveal has been split to get the idea across to the "other half" of the audience. Not the hardcore gamers.
Jarmel said:That internet answer was some serious dodging or they have no clue what they're going to do. The intent of that question is perfectly clear.
For better or worse it's Nintendo. Even if they have a plan in place and are moving on it right now, they'll refuse to say a word or even give a hint until they think is the right time for the reveal. It's in their DNA.
In this one case, I do think their DNA is misleading them. They have to be aware of what people want at this point. Given how far the system is from launch they can't be reasonably expected to have all the particulars nailed down. However, they do need to make a general public statement acknowledging that they understand people require network structure on par with Xbox Live at the minimum. If only to stop people from spinning up a narrative that it's impossible Wii U will have good online "because Nintendo always sucks".
Cosmonaut X
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claviertekky said:I'm not quite sure where this controller stands when the 3DS is in the picture.
You won't be able to stream to the 3DS, and it will be more limited in functionality - one less analogue pad, no bumpers etc. If they let you use the 3DS, it will be a fairly gimped version of the Wii U padlet.
claviertekky said:Might as well dump the controller and tell customers to buy a 3DS.
Sell the system console only as it does work with Wii peripherals anyway
I'm not quite sure where this controller stands when the 3DS is in the picture.
3DS doesnt have dual analog, 4 shoulder buttons, and a large screen.
CoffeeJanitor
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Maybe. My stance has history on it's side, though.Krev said:You're jumping to conclusions as much as anyone else.
It's clear that Nintendo simply do not want to speak about online as of yet. Or power. Or most things about the system, really.
Jarmel said:Both those answers are bad news. What does this mean for co-op? Split-screen? Highly disappointing.
That internet answer was some serious dodging or they have no clue what they're going to do. The intent of that question is perfectly clear.
While true, it really should have been much more direct. Something along the lines of, "Will Nintendo's strategy toward online functionality and services change with the WiiU, and if so how will it compare to Xbox Live and the PlayStation Network?"
Jarmel said:Both those answers are bad news. What does this mean for co-op? Split-screen? Highly disappointing.
That internet answer was some serious dodging or they have no clue what they're going to do. The intent of that question is perfectly clear.
I still think they should've asked a more direct question. Ask about Online Multiplayer connectivity, not Internet Connectivity in general.
Besides Nintendo knows how to do same room MP just fine, so I doubt there is ANYTHING to worry about locally. Online is another story.
Seraphinianus
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feels like they announced this thing a little too early