BigJonsson
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Trade JJ and Buck for King Felix :lol
Or Halladay
Or Halladay
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MLB '12-'13 OffSeason OT: Magic is the New Market Inefficiency
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Dmncnby2k9
Banned
Reading baseball tweets in portuguese feels like a bizarro world, love this! Awesome upset.
Barry Larkin is a wizard.
"World Baseball Classic" Trending in Brazil. They're huge twitter users over there. Awesome
so awesome. this is why i love the Classic.
abolisher6812
Member
Thanks for the hoodie link. I was able to pick a Marlins one. I probably could have waited a few days and pick one up for $10, but I didn't want to take the chance.
Rafa=FedKilla
Banned
Yeah footlocker might've traded the whole stock away.
BigJonsson
Member
Gregor Chisholm ‏@gregorMLB
According to @elliottbaseball the #BlueJays will announce John Gibbons as their new manager in less than nine hours.
WHAT the
According to @elliottbaseball the #BlueJays will announce John Gibbons as their new manager in less than nine hours.
WHAT the
BigJonsson
Member
I only remember his accent which made it hard to understand what he was saying some of the time lol
abolisher6812
Member
I have no problem with the Marlins-Jays trade. Josh Johnson is the only player that I would miss, but he can't stay healthy. The Marlins tried to make a big splash and it backfired. When you spend that kind of money and still lose 93 games, it is time to blow it up and start over. There are not many teams that get the chance to do that or in this case 3 chances.
Link
The Autumn Wind
Someone doesn't live in Miami-Dade County.
EDIT - To elaborate further, blowing up the team was bad enough after the stadium fiasco, but what makes it worse is everyone on the planet knows that they won't be reloading on free agents. They'll be perfectly content keeping the payroll under $30 million and pocketing all that extra money. The only difference now from before is they'll collect even more now that they own the stadium.
Mr. Enigma
Member
Blue Jays rehired John Gibbons? What the fuck?
abolisher6812
Member
I don't live in Miami-Dade County. I am talking strictly about the trade and I think the Marlins will be better off. Miami-Dade County did get hoodwinked into building a new stadium for a horrible owner. I am sure they heard the stories about Loria, and yet they agreed to build a stadium for him.
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The Autumn Wind
"Better off" is relative. Finishing with a better record than 69-93 isn't that difficult, but it doesn't mean they'll be a good team either. And management knows that, and are carefully wording their statements around improving on last year's win total.
The Marlins have tried this low payroll, young guns approach for the past few years, with the same results every time. The biggest issue is they never change their front office. The Oakland A's they are not. They missed on pretty much every prospect they brought in after their last fire sale. Look at how the Miguel Cabrera trade worked out for them. They literally ended up with nothing.
It's always been the same. Their farm system has actually produced a lot of amazing talent, but as soon as it comes time for them to actually get paid any real money, the front office ships them out of town and the cycle begins anew.
As for the residents of Miami-Dade, no one wanted to fund that stadium. You can thank a mayor and city commission that have now all been swept out of office and are the focus of an ongoing SEC investigation. They're now all stuck watching Loria and company rake in more money than ever while happily fielding a team that has no shot of accomplishing anything.
if the marlins had no plans to resign Johnson then they could be better off. Smart to dump those contracts, especially Buehrle. Depends on if the talent they received pans out I guess. (obviously)
As a Baseball move, the trade is fine. The problem with it is that its a huge Fuck You to the fans.
As a Baseball move, the trade is fine. The problem with it is that its a huge Fuck You to the fans.
Well I sure hope both of the fans show their anger and boycott the games.
abolisher6812
Member
The front office certainly hasn't been the same since Dombrowski left. I do think there will be enough pressure placed on Loria by the fans (not that he cares about what they think) and other owners to spend more money. They obviously won't ever come close to the $100 million+ they spent this year. Sadly, they will now have to overpay for any big name free agent and .
BigJonsson
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gaming_noob
Member
I can already see Gibbons is going to have problems with Lawrie, Encarnacion and Reyes.
Coldnoodle
Member
Gibbons?
BRING BACK LILLY
BRING BACK LILLY
Gibbons is a weird hire since the Jays had just fired him 4 years ago but honestly not bad. Obviously when the team is losing the manager will take the brunt of the blame for it and at the time I think most Jays fans wanted him fired since the Jays had spent some money and made some trades but couldn't really get past 3rd place and also because of the fights with Hillenbrand and Lilly. But in retrospect he honestly wasn't that bad. He platooned, he didn't bunt, he used his relievers effectively, he defends his players and his players in turn like him even Lilly still likes him, he handles the media well, and for the most part he did not put out stupid lineups like old Cito and Farrell. Honestly that is all you can ask for from a manager.
Yup, Gibbons was pretty awesome. Love it.
Pretty much how I feel.
My Facebook feed is going wild right now with how angry people are about this.
No doubt, Gibby's a way better manager than Farrell (not that highest bar to clear), and he was definitely unfairly scapegoated, I just wanted a fresh face I guess. Oh well, can't do anything about it now, I just hope his second go-around is a success. =)
And reminder that the presser is starting up @ 9:30, so about 50 mins from now. Should be some viewing links up by then. So excited!
And reminder that the presser is starting up @ 9:30, so about 50 mins from now. Should be some viewing links up by then. So excited!
AA's presser is a go! http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?topic_id=16646652&c_id=TOR&content_id=25496363
yankeehater
Member
Clearly you could take any hitter in baseball and have them bat in Miggy's spot last year and they would have driven in the same amount of runs.
Dmncnby2k9
Banned
With Gibbons hiring, 14 managers are now catchers.
yankeeforever2
Member
News corp just bought 49% of YES network, the part the Yankees didn't own.
More fox news business updates.
Think the old nets owner and Goldman owned the other 49% before
More fox news business updates.
Think the old nets owner and Goldman owned the other 49% before
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Royals are so desperate for pitching they just locked up Guthrie to 3 years and people are calling it a good move. Hilarious.
Feel bad for Royals fans. Dayton Moore fucked it all up. Still is.
Feel bad for Royals fans. Dayton Moore fucked it all up. Still is.
captmcblack
Member
Ugh, really?
If News Corp as it is currently constructed/as it currently fits into American/world society ever becomes the full owners of the Yankees, I can't in good conscience continue my fandom of them.
Duane Cunningham
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Cheers
Rafa=FedKilla
Banned
Them brahs are going to have to overpay for mediocre pitching because you need it badly.
gaming_noob
Member
25 Million, 3 year deal for Guthrie...LOL
Year 1 - 5 Million
Year 2 - 11 Million
Year 3 - 9 Million
Year 1 - 5 Million
Year 2 - 11 Million
Year 3 - 9 Million
The Awesomest
Member
Mariners trade Trayvon Robinson (OF) to Baltimore for Robert Andino (IF). Robinson is a speedy outfielder who can't really hit and has a bad throwing arm but has decent defense and potential. Andino is a utility infielder who has good defense and can't really hit.
It gives the Mariners a new backup infielder, which they didn't have previously.
It gives the Mariners a new backup infielder, which they didn't have previously.
I'm not really down with Gibson coming back. Didn't like him last time, wasn't exactly missing him when he left. It's not like he was dominating the minors or anything (with the caveat of course that managers aren't in the minors to win games but develop players)... weird pick it seems. :|
Boston fans are happy as hell right now.
The Awesomest
Member
Andino crushed their hopes and dreams.
Nobody cares.
Whiskeymatt
Member
Smart move for the M's, we've needed a capable backup infielder and Trayvon isn't a high price at all to pay for that.
Why are there so many dumb GM's?
BaltimoreLarry
Member
Andino was gritty, and I liked him, but damn if he didn't seem to ground into a double play every time he possibly could last season.
The Awesomest
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Don't talk to the idiots commenting on the Mariners' announcement. They're all frothing at the mouth with "We traded Adam Jones again!!11oij" "Jack Z is a moran!!" and other such nonsense. It's ridiculous. I sometimes wonder how these people can call themselves fans of the team with all the vitriol they spew at it.