Is Morse as bad as uzr is making him out to be? He'd be an interesting option for right field.
It is a lot, but they're all on one year deals and each of them are still producing at a high level.
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Is Morse as bad as uzr is making him out to be? He'd be an interesting option for right field.
Dmncnby2k9
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Im amazed it was straight 1 for 1 trade.
Is Morse as bad as uzr is making him out to be? He'd be an interesting option for right field.
Aw I missed that avatar quote. That was right down the middle!
Morse is just a lumbering big guy who lacks speed and range. He's better than Dunn in the OF if that helps (but so were a lot of others). He doesn't make terrific plays and people run on him because he takes some time to get to the ball. It's not a nightmare watching him though. You just have to expect that he won't do anything terrific and that he will be mediocre in the field. I think his bat is worth his defense out there.
matthewwhatever
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What? It's 75% to get in, 5% to stay on the ballot. (Assuming you're talking about the Hall of Fame.)
I'd think a 1 to 1 trade is fine, but for someone so far away? Trading your 2nd or 3rd best player for a lottery ticket? Fuck me.
BFIB
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Holy shit, for one minor leaguer. Highway robbery by the Nats.
I assume Morneau is next, the Twins don't have quite enough OF depth for that after trading Span, unless Hicks or Arcia goes nuts in ST and starts the season with the major league club.
What a fucking terrible trade. Uggggggh. He's an incredibly underrated player.
I dont think he is that far away. He is 22 so he could move fast through the system.
still looks like a shitty trade though.
If Gardner is moved to center I'd be more fine with Morse in right since Gardner would cover so much ground. At this point I think I rather have Morse than bringing Ichiro back, having just one outfielder who could hit for power is pretty bad.
Willingham for Phelps.
Haha, not the Twins system!
He's going to start at AA and it's not like they have an embarassment of pitching so maybe things will be different. I doubt they'd call him up next year unless he's tearing things up and/or they're playing way better than expected. 2014 should be interesting with Meyer and Gibson in the rotation and Arcia, Hicks, and maybe Rosario and Sano in the bigs. But ugh.
I meant 20% to stay on the ballot, dont know why i wrote to get in.
Dmncnby2k9
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Havent u had enough??
Now is the time to be greedy.
The Twins overvalue plodding corner guys, they'll hold on to Willingham. He seems like he wants to be here, despite the team sucking, and his bat is made for Target Field. I'd much rather have trade him and Revere than Span. I'd be sad to see him leave, too.
matthewwhatever
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Why would you want Willingham over Morneau? The former puts EE in the field; the latter keeps him off it.
Rangers champion dog round three.
That thing costs more than the tickets down there, it's absurd. I did like Fenway's low prices via collapse though.
When you get the dog is it true if you order ketchup they drive you to the border and throw you over the river?
EE is going to be the full time 1B next season, regardless of whoever is acquired.
Morneau is, at this point in his career, a platoon bat (.569 OPS last year vs. LHP). We already have that guy, he's Adam Lind and he sucks. I'd rather have Willingham's superior bat and lower price tag.
Most Texans don't have condiment pride.
I'm at work and far too lazy to look up the numbers, but Morneau's numbers (in general, but especially) against LHP were ghastly at the beginning of the year, but were much, much better down the stretch. I'm guessing he'll be closer to that later part of the season than the beginning or even the aggregate.
Honestly, I don't know. Morneau's definitely overpaid at $14 million this year. But I'd hate to see the Twins sell low on him this offseason after nursing him back to relative health over the last two and a half years, only to have him break out for someone else. If they're going to trade him, I'd say do it at the deadline. Someone will need a bat, and someone will pay handsomely for him then. Same with Willingham, honestly. That also gives time to find out if Chrissy Chrissy Parm Parm and Hicks/Arcia will be ready to play next year before trading decent players.
Lay off the scotch.
A texan would never think about sending even their worst enemy to Oklahoma.
waaaaayyy too rosy.
The Frankman
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Gonna trade for A-Rod to make the most Overpaid Infield in MLB History, and sign Hamilton for 10/200.
i like it.
Rafa=FedKilla
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Dat AAV is to low brah.
matthewwhatever
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Lind is even worse than that, though. And Morneau at least has the possibility of being better than he was in 2012...I don't think the same could be said for Lind. As thoroughly average as Morneau was last year, he'd still be an upgrade over Lind, and I think the Jays might have improved sufficiently this offseason that one win here and there makes a difference.
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Source: #Pirates reach agreement with Russell Martin, pending physical.
Source: #Pirates reach agreement with Russell Martin, pending physical.
Lind's 2012 OPS against lefties was .553, not much worse at all. They either need someone to platoon with him or who can completely replace him and I don't think Morneau's that guy.
Lol wasn't it 3/25 or something
If that's what they signed him to I'm fine with Cash not matching or upping our offer, but man, we need a fucking catcher.
Brian McCann for Brett Gardner.
Throw in Heyward and a dozen hot dogs with ketchup on it, and you have a deal.
Really? Surprised at it being a two year deal. I take back what I said earlier, Cash should have matched that offer.
Mind trading us JP arencibia?
Sure, it will cost you more than other teams though.
Edit: I totally forgot Pierzynski was a free agent.
Ninja Scooter
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Why? What the fuck is wrong with GMs? You really have NOBODY in your farm system that can replicate Russell Martin's mediocre production at a fraction of that cost?
Mr. Enigma
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THE PIRATES ARE SPENDING NOW, BUCKO
It's a winter of desperation. The worse Upton gets 75, Martin making 8.5 per year, and Swisher is probably going to get Werth money somehow. Not to mention all the money that Hamilton's going to collect.
BFIB
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Good call.
I've gotta play baseball and use my Nationals. It's been too long.