BFIB
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Shoeless Joe finally has a chance.
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MLB '12-'13 OffSeason OT: Magic is the New Market Inefficiency
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Shoeless Joe finally has a chance.
yankeehater
Member
Curt Schilling should get in for sure. If we going guys that have been on the ballot for multiple years, it is a crime that Lee Smith isnt in yet.
Piazza and McGriff
based on the numbers these are probably the deserving candidates that are on the ballot.
- Bonds
- Clemens
- Schilling
- Bagwell
- Walker
- Piazza
- Edgar
- Lofton
- Biggio
- Raines
- Palmeiro
- Sosa
- McGwire
edit: Piazza I guess will get in on the first ballot.
i think you mean it would be a crime if he were to be voted in.
Mr. Enigma
Member
Crasnick: Braves and B.J. Upton close on a multi-year deal
hmm he did say "serious talks" not close so perhaps they are not on the verge of signing him.
Either way, I hope the braves don't overpay (they will). Knowing the braves recent history with big FAs, I don't have much hope for this deal.
Dmncnby2k9
Banned
Will upton be cheaper than bourn? Why did the Braves not try to resign him?
Bourn is the better player and has Boras as his agent, i'm fairly certain he will get more money.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Carl Crawford v2.0
I'm hoping Biggio and Bagwell go in together, as was meant to be.
I'm hearing two. This is all of course, pending a physical
.http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20121128&content_id=40440368&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb
He is good, his stuff can be quite nasty.
I'd say its about market value.
BFIB
Member
Thats a lot for a BJ.
Duane Cunningham
Member
Royals Deal Vin Mazzaro, Clint Robinson to Pittsburgh for two minor leaguers
Looks like the Royals have sent some garbage to the Pirates in exchange for two pitching prospects that may or (more likely) may not pan out. That's fine, I guess. Actually I shouldn't call Clint Robinson garbage, I guess. But we already have two 1st basemen, Eric Hosmer and Billy Butler.
Looks like the Royals have sent some garbage to the Pirates in exchange for two pitching prospects that may or (more likely) may not pan out. That's fine, I guess. Actually I shouldn't call Clint Robinson garbage, I guess. But we already have two 1st basemen, Eric Hosmer and Billy Butler.
Dmncnby2k9
Banned
Im not a big Nick Swisher fan. Lets see wat teams think though.
B-But he's a .255 hitter!
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
5 tools a few are busted but he got em
Heart Attack
Member
lol @ both Uptons. They're both overrated.
Dmncnby2k9
Banned
how bout that much for Nick Swisher?
Jerry Crasnick said:
https://twitter.com/jcrasnick/status/273940962366083072
Phillies are going for it! Lol
You guys laughing at the contract need to remember that the Braves are paying him market value to be a 3 win player per year, which is what he has averaged in his career. He plays solid to above average defense at a premium position, he's an excellent baserunner, he hits for power, and outside of last year, he's been pretty good at drawing walks too. He's in the prime years of an average aging curve, and he oddly still has room to improve. It's a long contract with some risk, but considering the options available, it's a pretty good move.
AgentChris
Member
Philolies. I wouldn't even think about giving Hamilton a long term deal.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Justin is a damn fine player
He averaged nearly 4 wins the last three years. I'd say he's definitely worth an AAV of $15 million.
Ninja Scooter
Member
I think I'd rather have Upton for the next 5 years than Bourne.
matthewwhatever
Member
If you didn't have a voting body made up primarily of egotistical, judgmental dinosaurs, you'd have the potential for the best induction class ever. If the writers were basing it entirely on baseball performance, you'd have:
- a couple of no-brainer, all-time great inductees (Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens, Mike Piazza)
- several more players who aren't in the running for best ever, but who should easily pass any test for induction (Jeff Bagwell, Craig Biggio, Mark McGwire, Tim Raines, Sammy Sosa, Alan Trammell)
- a couple who have very strong arguments for induction, who'd be far from the worst players in the Hall (Kenny Lofton, Edgar Martinez, Larry Walker)
- several more players who would be iffy, but not indefensible, selections (Fred McGriff, Rafael Palmeiro, Curt Schilling, Dale Murphy)
- a couple who don't deserve to be in, but will get support anyway (Lee Smith, Jack Morris, David Wells, Bernie Williams)
By my count, that's about 20 guys who could go in -- including 13 who absolutely deserve it.
Who will go in, though? I'm guessing it'll just be Morris. Biggio might squeak in, but I think he'll have to wait until next year, at least. I'd like to think that Bonds was such a transcendent talent that he'll manage to get in even with the obvious objections, but I very much doubt that'll happen.
And then 2014 will just be a giant mess, since you'll have about a dozen deserving players already on the ballot joined by Greg Maddux, Tom Glavine, Frank Thomas, Mike Mussina and Jeff Kent.
he is borderline to me. but his instructional video should put him over the top.
Fuck MLB if he doesn't get into the Hall of Fame.
Shit, I was just going based on the instructional video. It's better logic than sportswriters are using for this class.
Mr. Enigma
Member
McGriff may have fucked himself over for hanging on too long to try for 500 home runs...
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Gar needs to be in
Fuck MLB if he doesn't get into the Hall of Fame.
The Outsider
Member
Nice to see the Braves spend some money, although I think 15 mil/year is pretty steep for someone like Upton.
It's not offensively high or anything though. Looking forward to seeing him play.
It's not offensively high or anything though. Looking forward to seeing him play.
BigJonsson
Member
Upton making more than Bautista is pretty funny