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[Ninja Scooter]

So does this mean the one-eared Cuban dude is the new Dodger second baseman? Can Turner be a full-tiem 2B?

 

[JDeluis]

Fuck you Dodgers for trading Dee Gordon!

 

[KidA Seven]

The Dee trade is understandable, but he was an exciting player to watch.

 

[Little Green Yoda]

Not statistically last season.

219.2 IP, 23% K%, 4.9% BB%, 1.07 WHIP
219.2 IP, 24.9% K%, 5.4% BB%, 1.10 WHIP

They were virtually identical last year by those statistics. Yet Lester achieved those numbers entirely in the DH league while Samardzija split his time between both leagues. So if you look at park/league adjusted rate stats, Lester comes out ahead.

 

[sf2fanatic]

Didn't Haren say he would retire if he was traded? I think his family is already settled in Southern California.

Haren grew up in West Covina/Covina area. So pitching here in So Cal is great for him

 

[Overlee]

So does this mean the one-eared Cuban dude is the new Dodger second baseman? Can Turner be a full-tiem 2B?

Yup, Guerrero's contract stated he had to be on the MLB roster by his second season. His glove is still a huge question but his bat is for real so they will give him every chance to be the starter. (Dee beat him out for the starting gig in spring training last year).

Turner is no more than a super utility guy, gonna have spot starts at 2B/3B every few days.


The Rollins and Heaney trades are what I expected from this new front office. Trading away some low level prospects for a short term SS that won't block Seager and selling high on a 2B for a legit young arm that will slide into and solidify the back end of the rotation.

That Kemp to San Diego rumor didn't make any sense and was only coming out of their front office. They listened of course hoping to get an offer they couldn't refuse but SD doesn't (won't?) have anything to offer. (yet????)

 

[jbug617]

Deal Done

Dodgers trades: Gordon and Haren

Miami trades: Heaney, Hatcher, Hernandez and Barnes

 

[zychi]

219.2 IP, 23% K%, 4.9% BB%, 1.07 WHIP
219.2 IP, 24.9% K%, 5.4% BB%, 1.10 WHIP

They were virtually identical last year by those statistics. Yet Lester achieved those numbers entirely in the DH league while Samardzija split his time between both leagues. So if you look at park/league adjusted rate stats, Lester comes out ahead.

I think Smardj had a better season slightly because he pitched at hitter friendly Wrigley and his division had two playoff teams.

Lester was in the pitcher friendly Fenway, and only the Orioles made the playoffs in their division


My point is they just signed the same pitcher, but a lefty. His playoff and WS experience doesn't mean shit until they get there.

The team is nearly identical to last years, with a few bench players gone. And all of a sudden they are contenders? Not on the hype train yet, need at least another year and for the AAA guys to produce before I fall for the every decade Cub cycle.

 

[Little Green Yoda]

Last year, Wrigley was more pitcher friendly than average while Fenway was more hitter friendly than average. Kind of a weird year for park factors since Busch was also hitter friendly compared to other years.

I agree that the hype is overblown for the Cubs at the moment. But the bulk of that hype is coming from the impending arrival of the position prospects, not the Lester signing IMO. The signing just plugged one of the bigger holes on the roster.

 

[Syrinx]

Sittin' around, waitin' for the Mets to do something...

 

[Purple Cheeto]

So does this mean the one-eared Cuban dude is the new Dodger second baseman? Can Turner be a full-tiem 2B?

Last I heard that guy was more likely to end up as an outfielder.

 

[Dominican Power]

Sittin' around, waitin' for the Mets to do something...

You're gonna wait forever.

 

[zychi]

Last year, Wrigley was more pitcher friendly than average while Fenway was more hitter friendly than average. Kind of a weird year for park factors since Busch was also hitter friendly compared to other years.

I agree that the hype is overblown for the Cubs at the moment. But the bulk of that hype is coming from the impending arrival of the position prospects, not the Lester signing IMO. The signing just plugged one of the bigger holes on the roster.

That is odd. Usually when it warms up, Wrigley is a hitter friendly park. That stat for Wrigley also benefits because of the season Smardj, Arrieta and Hammel had.

 

[jbug617]

Speculation is that the Dodgers are loading up on prospects to trade for Hamels.

 

[HarryDemeanor]

I go out of my house for two hours and all hell breaks loose.

 

[sf2fanatic]

I go out of my house for two hours and all hell breaks loose.

I know. New era


E: Guerrero was learning to play the outfield. Shoulda resigned Barney

 

[Rock And Roll]

Solid trade by the Dodgers for Heaney. Good lefty pitcher with late sinking movement. Giving up Gordon and Haren wasn't much IMO

 

[brianjones]

I know. New era


E: Guerrero was learning to play the outfield. Shoulda resigned Barney

they did resign Barney but he's no starter

late game D maybe

 

[sf2fanatic]

they did resign Barney but he's no starter

But for defense he's good enough

 

[jbug617]

Tim Brown from Yahoo said the Dodgers and Phillies had discussions about Chase Utley.

 

[Nuts.Pistachio_Nuts!]

Rollins is a good pickup. Not what he once was, but he'll be a good fit to bridge the gap to Seager.

I think I'm more shocked that Amaro actually did something. Its a new day Philly fans!

I feel like I woke up in bizarro world today. End of an era that should've ended two years ago.

 

[BFIB]

Utley, Rollins, and Hamels possibly in Dodger Blue. Apparently Amaro only works with one team.

 

[HarryDemeanor]

Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome the Los Angeles Phillies!

 

[KidA Seven]

Speculation is that the Dodgers are loading up on prospects to trade for Hamels.

Hopefully that means Urias doesn't get traded.

 

[HarryDemeanor]

Hopefully that means Urias doesn't get traded.

Somebody would have to go. Maybe Lee.

 

[sf2fanatic]

Tim Brown from Yahoo said the Dodgers and Phillies had discussions about Chase Utley.

We'll welcome this Bruin with open arms!!

 

[JCizzle]

Reading the Nats are talking some big moves. Would be very interesting to see what they come up with, they have such a stockpile of good talent.

 

[Malo]

Freidman doing work.

 

[CygnusXS]

Freidman doing work.

Wish John Hart would.

 

[jbug617]

Twins working on signing Ervin Santana.

 

[CheDominik]

So the Marlins got Dee Gordon and $10M in cash if Haren doesn't pitch for them?
Like the trade for Miami then, I think Heaney is a high floor-low ceiling pitcher.

 

[cashman]

Think the Dodgers got a pretty good deal here. Heaney is going to be above average at the least and they might get something useful from the other guys.

Hopefully that means Urias doesn't get traded.

Urias is an untouchable.

 

[jbug617]

Gammons said the buzz is that Giants are going after Shields.

 

[theapg]

Wait so who did the Phillies get for Rollins?

 

[aFIGurANT]

Wait so who did the Phillies get for Rollins?

Nothing is official yet (I don't think). Probably minor-leaguers though.

 

[yankeehater]

I hate JRo with such a passion. So glad he is gone, cant wait until cole is also gone.

 

[Corran Horn]

Gammons said the buzz is that Giants are going after Shields.

Need someone to pitch I guess.

 

[jbug617]

Rosenthal reporting the Red Sox are getting Wade Miley for Alan Webster and Rubby De La Rosa and a minor leaguer

 

[chicagocubsfan]

Dodgers are paying for Haren and Gordon's contracts as part of that trade.

 

[CheDominik]

Rosenthal reporting the Red Sox are getting Wade Miley for Alan Webster and Rubby De La Rosa and a minor leaguer

Webster and De La Rosa haven't looked great in their brief ML stints, but Wade Miley in the AL is a bad idea IMO.

 

[jbug617]

Webster and De La Rosa haven't looked great in their brief ML stints, but Wade Miley in the AL is a bad idea IMO.

He probably would be our 4th or 5th starter. Still holding out hope on trading for Porcello/Leake/Latos and signing Shields.

I would take

Shields
Porcello/Leake/Latos
Buchholz
Kelly
Miley

 

[HarryDemeanor]

If Friedman can get Utley and Hamels...

 

[Dominican Power]

Miley is going to get destroyed by The Jays.

 

[HarryDemeanor]

Good night, sweet prince.

Joe Frisaro ‏@JoeFrisaro

I've heard INF Miguel Rojas is also headed to #Marlins from #Dodgers and Miami will receive financial compensation if Haren retires

So Arruebarrena is the only SS backup we have now for this year.

 

[jbug617]

Dodgers close to a 4yr deal with Brandon McCarthy
https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/542897400767971328

 

[JDeluis]

Good night, sweet prince.

So Arruebarrena is the only SS backup we have now for this year.

Miguel is still safe. Only Haren and Dee are part of the deal.

I don't think anybody is safe on the team. Just waiting for Kemp to be traded to the Padres unfortunately.

 

[Malo]

Dodgers close to a 4yr deal with Brandon McCarthy
https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/542897400767971328

Fucking doyers.

 

[jbug617]

Fucking doyers.

you guys going to give Scherzer big money now

 

[Corran Horn]

Dodgers this, Dodgers that. yadda yadda

 

[HarryDemeanor]

Dodgers close to a 4yr deal with Brandon McCarthy
https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/542897400767971328

This year is going to be fun.