Dmncnby2k9
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those three in OF in such a big park? still interested in seeing the Pads this season, just cuz what Preller did was pretty epic. going in right away
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MLB 2014-2015 Offseason |OT| Playoff Dreaming
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HarryDemeanor
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They ain't gonna do shit.
Mr. Enigma
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Marlins are talking to Francisco Rodriguez.
chicagocubsfan
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Kinda surprised the Jays aren't in the mix. They really need another SP.
Rock And Roll
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Signing Shields would have him plus Buehrle and Dickey at the front. Bunch of dudes in their 30s. Better off waiting for next off season to try to make a signing considering how many good arms are going to be free agents.
Ninja Scooter
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do the Jays have the pieces to realistically get in the Hamels mix?
Rafa=FedKilla
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There was some awful baseball played in the Australian Baseball League championship. Glad Perth snatched the title......
Frozenprince
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They swung for Scherzer and missed. Didn't have the clout to bring in Shields after the recent issues with their FO. AA couldn't convince Boras of his job security or the money for Scherzer so Shields camp wouldn't even deal.
Rock And Roll
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They for sure have enough to land Hamels. There's no way AA will deal them though.
matthewwhatever
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Not really. A bit reliant on young guys (Stroman, Hutchinson, Norris) lasting full seasons, and I'm not crazy about Estrada as fifth starter, but the rotation is pretty set. They need better RP depth, a 4th outfielder and a 2B. That's why they're not going after Hamels either, since getting him would mean giving up at least two of those young pitchers.
Frozenprince
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Their need for rotational help all depends on how they view Hoffman going forward.
If you guys hadn't shipped off Thor I think you'd be in much better shape but, hey, thanks for the prospects.
chicagocubsfan
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Offer from Padres for Shields is 4 years 72-80 mill
Rafa=FedKilla
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He's gotta take that....
Frozenprince
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No way he gets more on the open market.
chicagocubsfan
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Probably not. I think the Cubs are real iffy on including a 4th year.
sf2fanatic
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Watching Coaching Bad and man how crazy the former minor league coach Kash is. Dudes insane
As someone who suffered through the Wakefield/Dickey reality show So You Want to Be a Knuckleballer...how good/bad is that show in comparison?
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Shields is fine if that signing goes through, but obviously I would have preferred Hamels. Granted, the Phils aren't to just take Cashner and a catching prospect who has a perpetual hole in his bat, but still.
sf2fanatic
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It's supposed to be a season series where
9 or so people try to deal with their anger management issues with work, family, etc. It's hosted by Ray Lewis.
So based on your post I shouldn't finish watching that documentary of Dickey and Wakefield?
The documentary is probably good although I've only caught bits and pieces. I'm talking about the MLBN show that took a bunch of washed up dudes and got one of them (I can't remember his name because nothing became of him) an invite to Dbacks Spring Training. I wonder why Mark Mulder wasn't on now that I think of it, he could have smashed those chumps hard.
sf2fanatic
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Oh ok. I didn't know they did a reality show of it.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Sources reporting that the Shields-Padres deal is done. About the same terms as previously reported - $72-78mm/4 yrs.
http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2015/2/9/7977265/james-shields-padres-contract-mlb-free-agency-2014
As a Padres fan, I'm cautiously optimistic. Its not long enough to totally cripple the franchise if it doesn't work out and while Hamels is unquestionably a better player, its probably way better to just give up money (and a pick) vs. a ton of prospects AND money to get Hamels.
http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2015/2/9/7977265/james-shields-padres-contract-mlb-free-agency-2014
As a Padres fan, I'm cautiously optimistic. Its not long enough to totally cripple the franchise if it doesn't work out and while Hamels is unquestionably a better player, its probably way better to just give up money (and a pick) vs. a ton of prospects AND money to get Hamels.
Rafa=FedKilla
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The second wildcard changed everything. Belieeee-dat!
chicagocubsfan
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Cubs final offer was 3 years, $60 million. Thinking that 5th year option swayed his mind.
HarryDemeanor
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The Padres are becoming the Jeff Jarrett of the NL West.
Knowing that he can get a good year in SD then get traded to Chicago on the same deal when they are good in 2016 probably sealed it for him.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
The payroll isn't as high as you probably think it is. It was still south of $90MM and the league median is like $110.
The other thing is that they have a lot of money coming off the books in the next few years (Carlos Quentin, Justin Upton, Will Venable, Joaquin Benoit, Cory Luebke, Shawn Kelley, Brandon Morrow and Josh Johnson).
None of those guys are getting resigned and some of them are short term reclamation projects - they aren't really planning to retain Upton and probably won't resign Ian Kennedy so they're going to get released from that money plus they're likely to get comp picks from there and their top two prospects are already in AAA (Hunter Renfroe and Matt Wisler) so I think they're hoping them to be ready to start next year.
Rein in your division foe, Doyers.
Unless their culture is changing, this would be my assumption. Right now they are constructed to be the best 3-4th place team the world has ever seen.
chicagocubsfan
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Cubs starting to get crappy baseball game covers. Can't wait for MLB 2017 w/Bryant though.
Dmncnby2k9
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Curse of RBI baseballCubs starting to get crappy baseball game covers. Can't wait for MLB 2017 w/Bryant though.
Dominican Power
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Do your fucking job, Cashman.
padres have a lot of money coming off the books after the season, but i have to believe that if the yankees want him enough, nobody is going to out bid them. Hal does seem to be concerned about the bottom line a little more though. we'll see.
HarryDemeanor
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Their rebuild years are still 85+ wins, which is impressive when you look at the run diff, pythag, etc. One thing that hasnt changed for them however is having a great pen. They develop elite bullpen arms as good as any team in baseball, and can usually hang onto that 1 or 2 run lead late in the game.
Frozenprince
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Pitching carried them. Second highest WAR in all of baseball, BP arms contributed to a lot of that. However I think the loss of McCarthy and Kuroda can't be undersold. Losing your two best SP's is never a good thing. But we'll see how it works itself out.
It's the ageing, seemingly power deprived bats that would concern me.
Farm depth is the best in baseball, but there isn't a top end marquee prospect to make their ranking pop.
Interested to see where they go, if they manage to keep Nova/Pineda healthy (CC is done) they could sneak up on 90 wins.
But that's a big if.
they have done a good job of piecing together the rotation, especially after the injury bug hit last year. the bullpen though has for the most part remained a constant.
Rock And Roll
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It's funny listening to all the Yankees doom and gloom going around for the past few years yet they've managed to have an above .500 team. Anyone who truly believes the Yankees won't be competitive for the next few years is a fool.
You would be a fool to think that is good enough.
Rock And Roll
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I know the Yankees fan base expects a playoff berth every year but look around the league. Missing a wildcard spot by 3.5 games isn't as bad as winning 70 games.