Lol what? Pedro still the man
As much as that pissed me off this series is still extremely entertaining and will be very interesting going forward. Being able to watch the Mets in the playoffs has been a delight ]as an idea alone.
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Lol what? Pedro still the man
As much as that pissed me off this series is still extremely entertaining and will be very interesting going forward. Being able to watch the Mets in the playoffs has been a delight ]as an idea alone.
NYCmetsfan
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When someone pulls the "well technically it..." defense you know that person is likely on the wrong side of the argument
DoktorEvil
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If there was one game I want Harvey to live up to his Roger Clemens comparison, its on Monday.
Watching the highlights on TBS and Pedro is calling homers "Ding dong Johnson" and the one announcer almost lost it.
so basically is there is a infield ground ball with people on base it should be an automatic DP then? Because any effort that the 2nd baseman will need is reduced greatly. So yeah taking something like slides to break up DP are the type of things that should stay
I didnt pull that?
When someone uses the "you used the well technically argument" you know they're actually wrong and have nothing left because the rules actually prove it right.
But hey, you're name is literally NYCmetsfan, I wonder where your bias is.
XiaNaphryz
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Doyers fans so extra defensive tonight. Circle them wagons!
CosmicQueso
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Just have them play a video game version of baseball. No injuries, No sliding, no terrible defensive play, turn double plays off in the setting menu.
Problems solved!
I actually don't think anyone has been defensive. Most are just kind of laughing at some of the ludicrous comments.
Basically this.
NYCmetsfan
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I'm not hiding a bias. I'm a mets fan. But the "well the rules" always rubs me the wrong way. It keeps people from owning their opinions.
You still have to make the throw to 1st. It's not like errors never happen.
XiaNaphryz
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How defensive of you!
timetokill
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Nah, nothing to be defensive about. But you already knew that since you guys can obviously read minds.
There are plenty of injuries to go around outside purposeful ones. Especially when there are already rules in place for the fielder to protect themselves. The baserunning just negates this.
Dude I'm cracking up and I didn't even see it lol
You should go back and read the last two pages. I'm clearly owning my opinion. I'm also rooting for your Mets to win this series.
DoktorEvil
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What?
Upton is right. If that was Tulo or DJ and they turned that DP, there would be a rule in effect the next game.
But on to the next one. We'll win in NY.
My hate for Chase Utley is and will remain justified.
Greatly reduced, most error happens on DP when the runner to 2nd disrupt the trow, listen Utley shit i can agree that should be revised, but sliding directly to the base? That could lead to a slipery sloppe and you end up all sliding banned from Baseball.
They got rid of home plate collisions and sliding still exists. It's just around the catcher instead of into him.
As long as tag plays still exist, so will sliding. But force-outs at 2nd aren't tag plays so they're pretty pointless there unless the point is to give incentive to take out players' knees.
Look, I don't care about the immediate result of the play. To me the fact is that a young guy was injured on a very avoidable play. I am a baseball traditionalist with probably 99% of the game but there needs to be a Tejada rule like the Posey rule. There can be a fine line with breaking up a double play and taking out the runner.
Mr. Enigma
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That slide was a dirty slide. Utley didn't even start sliding until he was already at the goddamn base.
And with tag plays you can also injure players, and after you take sliding on forceouts, how long until someone gets injured on hard tag slides and start screaming for rule change as well?
The point of breaking DP is not to take out player knees, what type of baseball you been playing for 20 years?
evil solrac v3.0
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be a mediocre post-season pitcher most of his career until?
kidding, kidding he was good
except he didn't?
I mean it's a legal play. it's not nice or sporting but it is hard and it's what's called for in the situation. Utley has a history but I'm not sure it counts int his instance.
I don't think he is wrong though, but yeah.
Herpes Reasons
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The more I listen the more I think Pedro wants to unretire so he can hit Chase Utley.
I mean he's bringing up a point about the Mets pitcher though.
I mean he's bringing up a point about the Mets pitcher though.
Herpes Reasons
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Interesting. Of course the only Dodger game I watch in months if the most controversial.
Damn Xia hates the Dodgers more than he likes the Giants it seems. Perpetually salty.
DoktorEvil
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He really needs to shut the fuck up...
Mr. Enigma
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Lol. Alanna Rizzo got totally fucking killed on Twitter over that Tweet and deleted it.
"Can we agree that it was just a clean, hard baseball play?"
"Can we agree that it was just a clean, hard baseball play?"
Where Tejada is pointed isn't a problem if Utley doesn't fly over the bag to take him out.
Why would you prioritize allowing dudes to purposely collide with opponents over awesome defensive plays?
timetokill
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what am I missing here?
Actual intent to injure is fairly irrelevant. It's reckless disregard for the other player's health regardless. An honest answer would be something like "I honestly didn't care if he got hurt or not. The rules give me incentive to take out a player's knees so I'm going to keep doing that as long as it's legal and not care what happens to the fielder."
Frozenprince
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Nobody is saying you have to slide directly to the base, but you should at least show a conscious effort that you're trying to reach the base, not just take out a guys legs.
Welcome to sports, where you literally do everything within the rules to win games
Utley was clearly trying to break up a possible double play, it's something that every baseball fan has seen. A lot of players do stuff like that.
Its obvious the rule needs to be changed, but this witch hunt for Utley looks like a bunch of people who don't watch baseball outside of the playoffs getting mad at a player who is doing his job
Mr. Enigma
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There's a lot of actual players pissed at Utley too. Pedro, Alex Cora, Eric Byrnes all saying he's a shithead.
Rafa=FedKilla
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Lauren Shehadi would never say anything like that. Thank God.
Has Mac commented yet?
XiaNaphryz
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You don't understand true rivalries!
Little Green Yoda
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I thought a neighborhood play at second was one of the things umps were going to be lenient on when reviewing a play due to safety in cases like this? Guess not, since Utley was ruled safe even though Tejeda's foot was like 1 cm from the bag.
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