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MLB 2016-2017 Offseason |OT| At Least Next Year is an Odd Numbered Year.
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Nice. US could end up doing well. As much as I'd love to see Syndergaard play, as a Met fan I can also understand why that's not happening and am also somewhat happy about it.
Silver Arrows
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Apparently Trout is on the provisional roster as well.
Carpe Libertatem
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Gross. Maybe the Cardinals are really down on Wong or something
edit: maybe it wouldn't be that bad, dunno. But it means Jedd Gyorko, starting 2B
Mr. Enigma
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Opt outs for relievers now. What a world.
BFIB
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I really, really don't want Cain or Davis. Davis was on the DL for forearm tightness, and his peripherals dropped after. Cain also saw a turn for the worse. We just went through this w/ Heyward, and both are in their walk year. And Wong is a much bigger price IMO. Dude just needs to play every day.
Mr. Enigma
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Aroldis Chapman is supposedly looking for a 6-year deal.
Carpe Libertatem
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I'd love Adam Eaton but think CWS are gonna charge a ton for him (and are right to do so).
I'd be fine with Dyson because I think he'd be pretty cheap. Give us a 1-yr stopgap, see what Harrison Bader has then we could always look to sign someone else in the offseason. Although Matheny probably just wouldn't play Dyson at all and treat him like he did Bourjos
BFIB
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I thought the reason they were looking at moving some pieces around the infield was to give Wong ample playing time? Wasn't that exactly what Mo discussed as soon as the season ended?
I just think its too early to give up on Kolten. Plus, this goes right against what the Cards wanted to do, which was get younger, and more athletic up the middle.
Carpe Libertatem
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Yeah, that's what Mo said. But I guess if they get blown away by an offer they'd do anything. I don't know why 1 year of Cain + Davis for Wong+prospects would blow him away, though.
yeah, I can't imagine the white sox move eaton.
mostly because he is the type of player they have wanted to lead off for a while.
plus I think his value will still go up a bit if the white sox get a real centerfielder.
Eaton is an average centerfielder defensively, but an absolute monster right fielder... he caught almost anything that went out that way... it was crazy @_@
Silver Arrows
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More WBC news:
https://mobile.twitter.com/RyanDivish/status/805904833458925568
https://mobile.twitter.com/RyanDivish/status/805905176401940481
Paxton would be a very big help to the Canadian pitching effort...really, he is the best pitcher we have. Which says a lot.
https://mobile.twitter.com/RyanDivish/status/805904833458925568
https://mobile.twitter.com/RyanDivish/status/805905176401940481
Paxton would be a very big help to the Canadian pitching effort...really, he is the best pitcher we have. Which says a lot.
I wanna watch O'Neill smash home runs for Canada.
The flip side is that the contract is back loaded.
Silver Arrows
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Would it be a stretch that what the Rays do at these Winter Meetings play a big part in whether they survive in Tampa or not?
Last time a I heard about the stadium situation, it was going to a vote proposal or something other?
Silver Arrows
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No Trea Turner, eh?
So they gave in on Robles? Or was it no Robles in talks with Cutch.
I have to imagine there is another top 100 prospect in there, and a couple other players if they aren't going to trade Turner.
if all the white sox get are those two and some fringe prospects than it would be a horrible deal for them.
ooooo boy
Silver Arrows
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Hot stove is officially burning up!
chicagocubsfan
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Chris Sale X Dusty Baker. Oh no.
white sox are at least pretty good at developing pitching.
I do hope they get better at developing position people someday though.
Frozenprince
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Robles is going to be baseball's #1 overall prospect. Kid is a STUD.
And Gio throws 100 MPH and Dusty Baker would ruin him.
Honestly, I think the Nats got hosed here.
Oh yeah Grover, the Red Sox were second place for him, their offer was...
Well.
Laughable.
Frozenprince
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You guys are vastly underestimating how valuable Robles is.
Either way, gonna be a bitch having to deal with the Nats with the rotation of Sale/Strasburg/Scherzer, plus Roark who had a solid last season. Plus especially if they still have future top 5 Met killer ever in Trea Turner
if you think they got hosed now, just wait until they announce the other players involved.
that is just the framework, not the full package. (and rightfully so, ace starters go for more than just that)
really though, yes the 19 year old might end up being a total stud... or he could end up like countless other can't miss studs and never make it to the majors or quickly fail and quit baseball even if he gets his chance.
Frozenprince
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Oh and Boston traded Shaw and Dubon for Tyler Thornburg.
That's two top ten prospects. That's a lot plus I'm sure they'll get one of Freede/Lopez.
Frozenprince
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Doesn't matter. You don't judge baseball trades in hindsight, gotta judge the trade on the pieces right now.
Robles is the #1 prospect in baseball. Giolito isn't far behind him. Add in another top-10 prospect and that's a fleecing and a half. The #1 prospect in baseball is worth a TON.
Ninja Scooter
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That's a monster rotation in DC if Strasberg is healthy. World Series or bust for Dusty.
that would make more sense if there is another top 100 in the deal.
not saying he isn't valuable, but chris sale is one of the best pitchers in baseball with 3 more years of team friendly control. That doesn't come cheap at all.
this isn't his last year of his contract where the white sox need to move him to get anything, as long as he doesn't get hurt the trade deadline next year or even next off season would still require a huge haul to get him.
Frozenprince
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And he didn't come cheap. He came with a top-25 prospect in Giolito and the #1 prospect in baseball, who's 19 years old.
That's stupid expensive.
Ninja Scooter
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Yeah it's possible all of these prospects flop, but if you are team trying to trade a guy like Sale you really have no choice. It's not like you are going to trade him for Trout or Harper. You take the best prospects available and try and take the guys your scouts say have the smallest chance of busting. The alternative is to hang on to him, win 75 games, watch his value dwindle and/or eventually lose him for nothing. Gotta pull the trigger eventually.
This pleases me.
oh no, they should trade him. just saying just because a number of prospects look good on paper you need to make sure to maximize things. The white sox can and should be asking more than just those two. Starting pitching goes for a ton, especially legit aces.
for an ace given what they usually require to get... not really. it's quite on the low end.
that is the package you get for an ace with a year left not 3.
Frozenprince
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Red Sox traded basically two career utility infielders for the Brewers best starting pitcher.
Pretty funny tbh.
Pretty funny tbh.
Frozenprince
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What? No it isn't lol. If they were like, top-5 organizational pieces from a crappy farm system maybe.
But these are two legitimate top end prospects nationally.
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