This has me fuming. What the fuck MLB?
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This has me fuming. What the fuck MLB?
lol nats
the only players that I can't see being traded off the white sox active roster would be
Carson Fulmer
Jose Quintana
Carlos Rodon
Tim Anderson
Adam Eaton
(james shields but only because he needs to rebuild his value)
the rest of the roster I could easily see moving including but not limited to
Miguel Gonzalez (solid 4th starter last year)
Nate Jones (good right handed reliever)
Dan Jennings (good left handed reliever)
Tommy Kahnle (had a good 2016 as a right handed reliever)
Zach Putnam (good right handed reliever)
David Robertson (well known closer)
Jose Abreu (solid hitter)
Todd Frazier (one year rental but high power decent defense)
Melky Cabrera (pretty decent left fielder)
i wonder if NPB upper level management is quietly happy, since it might keep Ohtani around longer. it's really a one-off situation since almost all posted players are at least 25 when posted. meanwhile the Uehara rule exists to blacklist players who skip NPB and go straight to MLB.
but the next Ohtani will think long and hard before making the decision he did. i suspect the Fighters and their manager are not necessarily happy about this, because their deal with Ohtani was based on the mutual understanding they were giving him a better route to MLB than coming over as an unproven 18 year old. Kuriyama in particular has talked a lot about how he approached the whole thing as an ambassador (when other teams had given up) and thinking "what's best for Ohtani." now this happens. betting he is very unhappy with this. i wonder if other teams will also have the same concern: what might be good for NPB will dent their ability to sign the next once-in-a-generation star.
really bad situation. all in the name of MLB owners finding more ways to screw international talent.
but the next Ohtani will think long and hard before making the decision he did. i suspect the Fighters and their manager are not necessarily happy about this, because their deal with Ohtani was based on the mutual understanding they were giving him a better route to MLB than coming over as an unproven 18 year old. Kuriyama in particular has talked a lot about how he approached the whole thing as an ambassador (when other teams had given up) and thinking "what's best for Ohtani." now this happens. betting he is very unhappy with this. i wonder if other teams will also have the same concern: what might be good for NPB will dent their ability to sign the next once-in-a-generation star.
really bad situation. all in the name of MLB owners finding more ways to screw international talent.
how is the MLB so fucking stupid? Otani is exactly the type of player the MLB should be begging to play stateside. Jesus christ.
Officerrob
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Looks like there have already been talks with Frazier to the Dodgers and Abreu to the Rockies
Silver Arrows
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Again, it bears repeating: MLB and the PA doesn't care about you unless you are playing in the league now
Doubly so if you are Korean, Japanese or Latin American.
DeathoftheEndless
Crashing this plane... with no survivors!
I think the White Sox made a good deal. A big-time hitting and pitching prospect, plus a couple of younger players. Plus Sale is a bit of a headcase.
Nerd_Incognito
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I actually think Eaton's also easily tradable. His defensive ratings and 4 WAR are likely the highest it's ever going to be. Sell high on him now.
Abreu is going to turn 30 next month. Is he going to be the player he was in his first two years (awesome) or continue the trend from this past season (awful)? Plus, he's a sub-par defensive player.
Frazier has to be moved. No real sense in log jamming the in-field with all this new talent now for a player who only really hits home runs or strikes out.
BFIB
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Wonder if he's cutting up his White Sox jerseys as we speak.
CheDominik
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"remember when sale "broke his foot jumping off a truck"? That was b.s"
Jesus Christ, the dirty laundry always gets aired after a trade.
Jesus Christ, the dirty laundry always gets aired after a trade.
Silver Arrows
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Nerd_Incognito
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Reports that Boston is also picking up the entirety of Moncada's remaining $31 million contract.
ALL OF IT.
WHAT DID RICK HAHN DO????
ALL OF IT.
WHAT DID RICK HAHN DO????
I mean, yeah but this isn't some random 16yo kid. I highly doubt Otani wouldn't be extremely good for the business and that owners/whoever don't know it. It's insane they're actively aren't looking for a workaround for him.
Probably good for the markets who have no hopes at him but fuck. It's Otani! He needs to be in MLB.
Officerrob
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Easy to say after he's been traded
Nerd_Incognito
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Carpe Libertatem
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Wasn't it just a signing bonus in the first place? I was under the impression that Boston paid it up front
DeathoftheEndless
Crashing this plane... with no survivors!
He's having a tearful conversation with his mentor, Drake LaRoche.
years from now we're going to find out that some fuckwits literally didn't want the precedent of paying a young kid from NPB what he was going to get paid.
i mean, what is the universe of 23-25 year olds that they are worried about?
CosmicQueso
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Listen, every time you can pay a Chris Davis $170 million instead of an Otani, you do it. Why? Well... I don't know.
Silver Arrows
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He better do a good job on the White Sox rebuild then, because this is highway robbery.
CreeperBlocks
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My God
if they can get a package worth him they might do it, but I don't think they will get an offer worth him. (aka a package for a 5+ WAR player who has 4 years of control left)
as for his ratings being the highest it's ever going to be...
nah... if he gets to play right field the whole time next year it will be as high if not higher.
I really don't know what it is... in center he was okay.
in right... he was an absolute monster catching anything that was hit his way.
I really think he needs one more year for more people to take notice and realize how good of a player he is.
You are correct.
it sounds like Jim is going to check around with some legal experts to see what (if any) loopholes exist.
(Yomiuri = Yomiuri Giants, the most old-school, conservative organization in NPB & the one generally presumed to be holding back a full NPB online service (only the Pacific league has one))
Frozenprince
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it's more than just a bit
BFIB
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More like using Otani as an example.
Frozenprince
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Doing dumb s*** like this is why the major leagues have a problem with the image
Nerd_Incognito
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I'm not fully sure how contracts work for international players, but according to Bruce Levine on Twitter:
So I think Moncada was still owed $31, and usually in trades the teams either agree to share the cost on a remaining or the acquiring team also takes on the remainder of the contract. The fact that that Chicago doesn't have to pay any of that remaining money is just a cherry on top.
So I think Moncada was still owed $31, and usually in trades the teams either agree to share the cost on a remaining or the acquiring team also takes on the remainder of the contract. The fact that that Chicago doesn't have to pay any of that remaining money is just a cherry on top.
GitarooMan
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Porcello I would think. Gonna be fun watching this group next year.
11? Holy shit. What's the record for most top 100 guys?
CheDominik
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Porcello has earned it after winning the Cy Young. He will probably won't even come anywhere close to repeating that performance but it's not like being opening day starter matters in the long run.
Nerd_Incognito
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up up down, down, B A
idk, it doesn't hurt to start the season off right.
sale is 4-0 in his opening day starts
I think BA's is 9, from the Royals in 2011 or w/e.
You're forgetting Rodriguez.
BFIB
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Yeah, but two will go down with Tommy John.
They should send him to us.
CheDominik
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Joel Sherman ‏@Joelsherman1 29s29 seconds ago Arlington, VA
#Nationals talked enough to #Whitesox that if want to go for Quintana to bulk up rotation and/or Robertson to close groundwork mostly done
Derrick Goold ‏@dgoold 24m24 minutes ago
With Sale on the move, #WhiteSox still active, and yes #Cardinals interest in Eaton persists. Here's why: http://www.stltoday.com/sports/base...source=twitter&utm_campaign=user-share… @stltoday
Joel Sherman ‏@Joelsherman1 29s29 seconds ago Arlington, VA
#Nationals talked enough to #Whitesox that if want to go for Quintana to bulk up rotation and/or Robertson to close groundwork mostly done
i could see them getting robertson, but as I have said a few times, I just don't see quintana being moved.
Yeah, but two will go down with Tommy John.
chris sale and?
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