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MLB 2016 Regular Season Official Thread - Do Not Attempt to Ketchup
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here is that braves slide from yesterday for reference. http://m.mlb.com/video/v572697283
sf2fanatic
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So how them experts predicting Arizona to be a contender? :jnc
😂😂😂
lowhighkang_LHK
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Every season all teams seem to get that coulda shoulda won but lost game. It all evens out.
Rafa=FedKilla
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Yasmany Thomas is terrible. I think a cardboard box would be mor effective in the outfield than him.
Tragicomedy
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If one of the players on my team clearly interfered on a play like that, you bet your ass I would expect us to get called for it. The fact that the double play probably wouldn't have happened is irrelevant. Joey Bats acted like a complete idiot with that slide, and officials caught it on the replay. It's all on him.
I'm not sure if you guys have MLB.TV, but you can rewind and watch the play and see he does clearly grab the fielder's foot. I wish I knew how to make a gif, but here's the breakdown. His hand goes out even further than the fielder's leg in that second image. Bautista cost his team the game, and has nobody to blame but himself.
At least we let Thor destroy our asses today, like true Asgardian subjects.
The slide would have been legal if he stayed on the bag. He did not, sooo out.If one of the players on my team clearly interfered on a play like that, you bet your ass I would expect us to get called for it. The fact that the double play probably wouldn't have happened is irrelevant. Joey Bats acted like a complete idiot with that slide, and officials caught it on the replay. It's all on him.
I'm not sure if you guys have MLB.TV, but you can rewind and watch the play and see he does clearly grab the fielder's foot. I wish I knew how to make a gif, but here's the breakdown. His hand goes out even further than the fielder's leg in that second image. Bautista cost his team the game, and has nobody to blame but himself.
At least we let Thor destroy our asses today, like true Asgardian subjects.
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brianjones
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i mean its game 2 of 162 .. and they could easily still win tonight
but the giants are always the primary threat
lowhighkang_LHK
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Dude, if I was a SS or 2B I'd totally over exaggerate on injuries or contact situations if a double play doesn't work out. Took MLB long enough to turn into Soccer.
Hit the ground, grab the knee, roll around in pain. Something something profit????
Hit the ground, grab the knee, roll around in pain. Something something profit????
Neko Mimi Mode
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Bautista is the biggest baby in the sport, but even he didn't cry over it. He broke the rule, that's it.
Good win for the Red Sox, Price's FB velo down to 92 but it doesn't matter with that command.
Mests need to pay Thor, like before he gets the Cy Young.
Are the Doyers really good or the Padres really bad? Both?
lol Shelby Miller.
Good win for the Red Sox, Price's FB velo down to 92 but it doesn't matter with that command.
Mests need to pay Thor, like before he gets the Cy Young.
Are the Doyers really good or the Padres really bad? Both?
lol Shelby Miller.
TheGamingBox
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great i was finally getting calm and tragiccomedy had to open his mouth
Tragicomedy
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http://m.mlb.com/news/article/170622448/new-slide-rule-impacts-blue-jays-rays-ending
Video does a better job of showing the grab.
Rule 6.0.1 has any number of places they can call him for interference, regardless of his position relative to the bag:
"(6) If, in the judgment of the umpire, a base runner willfully and deliberately interferes with a batted ball or a fielder in the act of fielding a batted ball with the obvious intent to break up a double play, the ball is dead. The umpire shall call the runner out for interference and also call out the batter-runner because of the action of his teammate. In no event may bases be run or runs scored because of such action by a runner;
(7) If, in the judgment of the umpire, a batter-runner willfully and deliberately interferes with a batted ball or a fielder in the act of fielding a batted ball, with the obvious intent to break up a double play, the ball is dead; the umpire shall call the batter-runner out for interference and shall call out the runner who had advanced closest to the home plate regardless where the double play might have been possible. In no event shall bases be run because of such interference"
I responded to your comment that anyone who disagrees with you is full of shit. I can't help it if you're acting petulant and resorting to insults. Joey Bats took his punishment like a pro without complaining, since he knew he was clearly in the wrong. We're talking about a league where players complain about almost everything. He knew he broke the rules.
Hold onto that L, I guess?
ah was thinking they were applying the new rule. That rule seems to be rarely called but I guess since those plays are reviewable now we will see it called more.
Tragicomedy
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And now for news we can all celebrate: I have it on good authority that the St. Louis Cardinals will go 0-162 this season.
No, you are correct. That's the new J rule clarification under rule 6.01. That one subset alone is like 7-8 pages long, so I'm just saying they could have claimed interference on any number of infractions. 6.01a part 6, 6.01a part 7, or the new 6.01j. I do think we'll see a more strict interpretation of the rule going forward after the injuries we saw last year, regardless of whether or not there's an intent (or even real risk) of injury.
MLB is saying they invoked the new rule on this one, and claiming Bautista didn't make a bona fide slide attempt. The combination of him reaching out with his left hand to make contact and oversliding the second base don't meet that criteria. Encarnacion was called out because of an interference call, since Joey Bats didn't stay on the base. I believe if he had stayed on the base, the call would just be hindering and impeding the fielder, the ball would be called dead, and all the other runners would return to the base they just departed. In that case, the game would be tied with runners at first and third, one out to go.
No, you are correct. That's the new J rule clarification under rule 6.01. That one subset alone is like 7-8 pages long, so I'm just saying they could have claimed interference on any number of infractions. 6.01a part 6, 6.01a part 7, or the new 6.01j. I do think we'll see a more strict interpretation of the rule going forward after the injuries we saw last year, regardless of whether or not there's an intent (or even real risk) of injury.
MLB is saying they invoked the new rule on this one, and claiming Bautista didn't make a bona fide slide attempt. The combination of him reaching out with his left hand to make contact and oversliding the second base don't meet that criteria. Encarnacion was called out because of an interference call, since Joey Bats didn't stay on the base. I believe if he had stayed on the base, the call would just be hindering and impeding the fielder, the ball would be called dead, and all the other runners would return to the base they just departed. In that case, the game would be tied with runners at first and third, one out to go.
Frozenprince
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Justice triumphs once again
TheShocker
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Amen!
sf2fanatic
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Pollock out means they really have to play small ball and rely super heavy on pitching. I don't know.
I have high hopes for Hoffman.
I don't get my hopes up for anybody anymore.
sf2fanatic
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Great first two days by our starting pitching. Also 2 excuse me singles away from not allowing a hit from our starters.
Tragicomedy
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Dirty? No, I don't think so, although that's subjective.
Illegal? Absolutely. The Padres catcher caught the ball and made sure to give Utley a clear path, to avoid blocking the plate. Utley aimed to take out his legs to dislodge the ball or knock him over. Even if the ball came loose there, Utley would still be called out.
"Rule 7.13 - A runner attempting to score may not deviate from his direct pathway to the plate in order to initiate contact with the catcher (or other player covering home plate). If, in the judgment of the Umpire, a runner attempting to score initiates contact with the catcher (or other player covering home plate) in such a manner, the Umpire shall declare the runner out (even if the player covering home plate loses possession of the ball)."
Joel McHael is a Mariners fan, I KNEW IT.
CosmicQueso
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Haaaaaaahahahahaha so it's "fucking bullshit" to call it the way it was called after Jose grabbed dude's leg? Holy cow I homer quite a bit for my team but not even I would call that one anywhere near legal. Amazing!
CheDominik
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Rollins rustlin some Jimmies in Oakland. Like the new guys in the Sox lineup. Hopefully Robertson can close it out more easily tonight.
lowhighkang_LHK
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I also think pitchers shouldn't be allowed to throw above 90 mph. Because anything faster could seriously injure a player especially if they get hit in the face/head.
I'm only half joking btw.
I'm only half joking btw.
TheGamingBox
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if it happened if to your team you would be pissed off too,pretending you wouldn't is just lying to yourself
Frozenprince
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I'd be pissed one of our players was so stupid yeah.
XiaNaphryz
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This is a dirty slide these days!?
Thanks for ruining baseball Buster Posey!
Ahem:
Stop blaming Buster Posey for the changes to home-plate collisions
As always, MLB won't do anything unless something happens during something a lot more high profile, like a playoff game. They didn't seriously discuss changing the sliding into second rule when Kang got injured in the regular season, but it did happen after Tejada get hurt in the playoffs.
Frozenprince
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And even then, this is very, very important.
THEY DID NOT CREATE A NEW RULE, THEY ARE SIMPLY TELLING UMPS TO ACTUALLY START ENFORCING THE RULE THAT'S BEEN ON THE BOOKS FOR ALMOST 3 DECADES NOW.
THEY DID NOT CREATE A NEW RULE, THEY ARE SIMPLY TELLING UMPS TO ACTUALLY START ENFORCING THE RULE THAT'S BEEN ON THE BOOKS FOR ALMOST 3 DECADES NOW.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
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Mr. Enigma
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A-Rod was called out back in ALDS 2004 for grabbing Bronson Arroyo's glove and knocking the ball loose while he was running. That was without replay. Bautista clearly grabbed Forsythe's foot. He didn't even argue it. The only ones crying about this are homer Jays fans who are way too biased.
For me, this isn't so much the Utley Rule as it is the runner intentionally fucking with the fielder.
If this happened to the Braves, I'd agree with it too. But hopefully none of their players are dumb enough to grab a fucking fielder's foot.
For me, this isn't so much the Utley Rule as it is the runner intentionally fucking with the fielder.
If this happened to the Braves, I'd agree with it too. But hopefully none of their players are dumb enough to grab a fucking fielder's foot.
Mr. Enigma
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If I have T-Mobile and I watch MLB.TV via LTE, does that mean my viewage doesn't use up my data? Is that how it works?
*wants to watch beisbol in class >
Yep. If a video provider is part of Binge On, it doesn't count towards your data. MLB.TV is part of it.
dr.rocktopus
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Went to sleep, saw the update on my phone for 4-2 Jays...then got sad at "Final: 3-2 Rays" lol :'(
I'm new to baseball (Jays bandwagon and I need a summer sport) but from how zroid described it it sounds like it was the right call even if it meant the game. Even in Jose's post game it sounds like he mostly relied on old habits.
I'm new to baseball (Jays bandwagon and I need a summer sport) but from how zroid described it it sounds like it was the right call even if it meant the game. Even in Jose's post game it sounds like he mostly relied on old habits.
This is going to get ugly early this year...
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