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MLB 2017 Regular Season OT - 108 years in the making
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omfg lester
who wants wade davis
who wants wade davis
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and of course more homers from guys like travis shaw and stephen vogt, because fuck baseball
OK, I have to ask this because maybe I must be blind, but generally speaking is there a higher defensive efficiency when you go to the shift? Because every time I see an Astros shift the hitter always soft hits it to the empty gap and I'm wondering what the hell the point of this is.
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yes, that's why they do it
chicagocubsfan
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Cubs need some rest I guess lol
chicagocubsfan
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Gotta finish it before Kiwami comes out haha
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Lots of ballgame left too. Video review proving the incompetence of umpires.
Carpe Libertatem
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It still makes me lol that the Red Sox traded Travis Shaw (and others) for Tyler Thornburg, who has not pitched in a Red Sox uniform yet and just had TOS
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travis shaw was a whole bunch of nothing before this season, the only reason people knew his name was because he was on the red sox. he was never even on an organizational top 10 list, yet here we are, because baseball: it exists
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Carpe Libertatem
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He had been worth a little more than 2 wins per 600 innings when he was with the Red Sox, which isn't great. But that's average production, which is a whole lot better than whatever it is the Red Sox are doing at 3B this season.
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that sample size
this is a "baseball is weird and unpredictable" thing, not a "let's laugh at a bad front office" thing. there was hope for him to be maybe be an average starter or whatever, but little in the 6 years of his professional career gave reason to expect him to suddenly start playing at like a 6 win pace at age 27
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clint frazier somehow got even creepier looking since i last saw him at the draft
just remembering times it failed in general it is more successful.
that being said if hitters took the time to hit into the new hole it likely would be far less successful.
heck... jim thome, adam dunn, if they had trained to bunt towards the end of their careers they would have been .500 hitters until they stopped doing the shift on then, then they could have swung away like normal and gotten more hits from not hitting into the shift.
really they don't even have to be that successful with the bunts. even if you succeed 3 out of 10 times that is still pretty good in baseball, and after a few successful bunts they would have to weaken the shift to cover for the bunts or stop the shift all together.
but instead we get excuses like they are paid to hit home runs not get on base, or that it will screw up their swing. personally I would take a guy with a .600 on base percent over someone who will hit 40 home runs with a .300 on base percent any day
Carpe Libertatem
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~800 PA isn't *that* small of a sample size.
He also didn't need to be a 6win player to be an upgrade over the Red Sox's combined -0.4 WAR they have gotten from 3B this season. He could just be a 2 win player and that would be a pretty substantial upgrade. Certainly more than Tyler Thornburg was expected to provide if he hadn't had TOS
No doubt about it. The shift and pitch approach is proving to be very effective against a lot of the one dimensional hitters, so a batter that can use the whole field is valuable indeed.
Guy should've gone on the DL, he has been actively hurting the team for the last month except for a seeing eye single or two.
Wouldn't mind dansby taking some time off as well.
Grover Cleveland
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Pedey!
Would have bought it if they called it Sanchez Sweat instead.
I think the god awful pitchers are the problem, not the coach.
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you constantly move the goal posts for the dumbest reasons. do you do this outside of baseball discussion. you went from laughing at the red sox to "well they coulda thought that maybe he'd be an average player or w/e" so quickly
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you'd better savor it
The entire bullpen & now two starters. He has to bear some responsibility.
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just realized that mlb is he mid 2000's for pitching era. can't complain too much, dingers are fun and good.
Carpe Libertatem
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I mean, it's funny that a team traded an average 3B and prospects for a reliever who immediately had TOS? Especially when said team has had the worst 3B production in the majors? Like, that's objectively a pretty bad trade.
I never once said that Shaw was going to be a star or that the Red Sox should have predicted it :lol
perfectchaos007
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Im pissed the Astros could only manage a series split against Toronto. Oh well at least we're going into the allstar break with a win
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i just thought you were trashing the trade as it happened instead of how it's turned out so far
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
call up honeywell tomorrow pls
timetokill
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I had to open up MLB.tv and watch that first half inning for the Cubs lmao
Incredible
Incredible
blackaroni
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Astros weren't fucking around.
OfficerRaichu15
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Holy fuck Astros
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