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MLB 2017 Regular Season OT - 108 years in the making
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Right at the buzzer.
17 Seconds
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i was gonna say.. the dodgers needed to do something in that rotation. counting on too many injury risks to be healthy in october.
Grover Cleveland
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Darvish, Maeda, Ryu
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Nomadic Sparks
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If Mozeliak doesn't do a firesale, then his head needs to be checked.
brianjones
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what did we give up for darvish
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
yay the tim beckham era is over. was hoping the guy would not suck but he was infuriating to watch this year. dude is so lazy.
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
Whichever team beats the Dodgers in the postseason I will dedicate my avatar to your team for awhile
with ketchup.
Who said that? Do you always misinterpret what others say?
Some fans are hard headed and think all prospects should be kept and believe trading away those prospects is trading away a sure thing (the caller). They're far from being sure things.
Yanks have developed from within and have talent on the field to prove it. However dealing two prospects with serious injuries and one who's value is at a high for Gray makes sense. They still have heaps of talent in their system.
Ninja Scooter
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So the best bat traded at the deadline was...Alex Avila? That says a lot about how offense is valued. Teams feel they can get bats anywhere.
Kevin Maas 2.0
To not trade Kyle Tucker?
Because I bet that's who teams were asking for.
The Dodgers are the Washington Capitals of the NL.
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dude, i was agreeing with you, lol
Ninja Scooter
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Why not? Unless they gave up a boatload what's the downside?
Really? If so then I'm and idiot for misinterpreting your post.
what the crap is this. Astros never won a world series, not like we're always winning rings or something.
Golden State Dodgers.
Kappa
Come on, Chris. Don't be like this. Why the fuck are you hating on completely rebuilding the farm system from the ground up?
Last 5 starts and Lance never looked right. He's gotten worse and worse to where he's killing the bullpen bigtime.
Kappa
Come on, Chris. Don't be like this. Why the fuck are you hating on completely rebuilding the farm system from the ground up?
Last 5 starts and Lance never looked right. He's gotten worse and worse to where he's killing the bullpen bigtime.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
JD Martinez was traded 2 weeks ago. There were other guys already moved this week like Duda. If a team is looking to make a move to get into the playoffs it makes no sense to actually wait till the 31st to get a deal done if you can get it done before it.
Chris has a hate boner for the Astros for some reason.
Nomadic Sparks
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I miss the cardinals-astros rivalry
brianjones
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no verdugo or buehler.. whew
You mean the illegal activity.
Ninja Scooter
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Looks like Calhoun is the main piece in the Darvish trade. So the Dodgers essentially flipped Calhoun (who can't play in the NL) for the luxury of upgrading from Ryu/Maeda to Yu Darvish for the rest of the reg season and postseason. And people are questioning the move?
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i was basically just echoing what you said. prospect creep is out of control right now. everyone thinks that all of their top 100 prospects are going to be the next kris bryant or corey seager. good front offices develop talent but also know how to capitalize on potential by using it to get proven major league talent. it's a balance, but so many people think it's all or nothing.
Who's questioning it? That's a light return for Darvish. Doyers out here looking like the Warriors of MLB.
bonesmccoy
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Only got rid of Smith and Liriano?
Huh. I figured someone would want to gamble on Estrada as a 4th/5th starter. He's also been excellent in the post-season.
Huh. I figured someone would want to gamble on Estrada as a 4th/5th starter. He's also been excellent in the post-season.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
I don't get this trade for the rays.... why would you salary dump a player making 800k with a lot of potential upside
He strikes out in over 30% of his at bats. He has "mental lapses" in the field and on the bases (hes one of the dumbest base runners I have ever seen). His career OBP is under .300.
He does have power though and was finally utilizing it in some kind of productive way. And hes a righty in a lineup full of lefties so dunno. Rays return seems insanely light but I'm not surprised they shipped him out.
eh... a top 100 seems like an alright return for a number 3 starter rental.
I am not saying that he was doing great or even good.
I more just don't get how you couldn't at least get an okay player for him. I mean I have to imagine you could have at least gotten someone that had a shot of making the majors some day for him.
I mean there are plenty of AAA prospects that are nobodies in the white sox system I wouldn't have minded see them trade for him just to see if they could fix him to trade again next year. I am just surprised no one offered more than a throw away player.
You summed it up pretty well.
BFIB
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On the one hand, I can't blame Mo for not dealing Lynn, just for the sake of making a move. But, if the goal was to be for the future of the ballclub, then you had other pieces you could have moved. Grichuk, Pham, Lynn, Oh, Rosie to name a few. You mean to tell me out of all of those names, there wasn't anything of value that could deepen our system out and prepare for the offseason?
By doing nothing, I'm accepting that the Cards are packing it in this season. No moves to contend this year, despite us desperately needing a bullpen arm.
By doing nothing, I'm accepting that the Cards are packing it in this season. No moves to contend this year, despite us desperately needing a bullpen arm.
CosmicQueso
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Darvish has been very inconsistent over his last 7 starts. ERA has jumped from 3 to 4, and he's not missing bats.
Not even sure this is an upgrade over what the Dodgers already have. This won't stop the Dodgers from winning, but this is a deal done because they could, not because they should.
Not even sure this is an upgrade over what the Dodgers already have. This won't stop the Dodgers from winning, but this is a deal done because they could, not because they should.
But Darvish isn't a 3?
he hands down isn't a 1 at this point, and given his inconsistencies I wouldn't really consider him a 2 at this point so are you saying he is a 4 or a 5?
not that it will mater to much, he will get hurt in august and that will be it for him for the season.
but i mean... for an inconsistent starter as of late, who is at the most he has pitched since 2014, and has a history of getting hurt. I think a top 100 propsect for a return is completely fair.
17 Seconds
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it's a rental and darvish has injury concerns, what were you expecting they get?
i mean, it's a move the dodgers kind of had to make with the state of their rotation, but they didn't exactly steal him.
also this is not the nba. the dodgers will still have less than a 25% chance of winning the world series when the postseason starts
Ninja Scooter
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I wonder if the improvement in pitch framing will be able to significantly help him over the next few months.
Aoki expresses disappointment. Kind of hate to see him go. It was fun while it lasted.
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