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[eznark]

I like the big bump Bagwell got. Raines, too.

Agree. Their 2011 campaigns really elevated them in my eyes. Excellent season for both. If they can duplicate that production in 2012 they are shoe-ins

 

[CajoleJuice]

Agree. Their 2011 campaigns really elevated them in my eyes. Excellent season for both. If they can duplicate that production in 2012 they are shoe-ins

Definitely. I think they will become even more feared.

 

[NihonTiger90]

Player Votes Pct 
Barry Larkin 496 86.4 
Jack Morris 382 66.7 
Jeff Bagwell 321 56.0 
Lee Smith 290 50.6 
Tim Raines 279 48.7 
Alan Trammell 211 36.8 
Edgar Martinez 209 36.5 
Fred McGriff 137 23.9 
Larry Walker 131 22.9 
Mark McGwire 112 19.5 
Don Mattingly 102 17.8 
Dale Murphy 83 14.5 
Rafael Palmeiro 72 12.6

via ESPN

Trammell got 36 percent, which is great as it's a big improvement ... but damn, he deserves to be in there. So do Bagwell, Morris, Martinez and Raines.

Congrats to Barry, though. It's well deserved.

 

[yankeehater]

I am surprised Lee Smith is having so much trouble getting votes.

 

[HeySeuss]

Congrats to my favorite player growing up as a kid. Larkin was always second fiddle to Ozzie Smith and, I was probably biased, I always believed he was the better all around player.

Long overdue.

 

[clemenx]

Doesn't the ballot get super crowded from next year? I don't see much hope for the remaining which is embarrassing for Bagwell and Raines. I just hope Morris doesn't make it would be worse than Rice.

 

[Mr. Enigma]

Congrats to my favorite player growing up as a kid. Larkin was always second fiddle to Ozzie Smith and, I was probably biased, I always believed he was the better all around player.

Long overdue.

It was only his third year on the ballot. :lol

 

[Mr. Enigma]

Doesn't the ballot get super crowded from next year? I don't see much hope for the remaining which is embarrassing for Bagwell and Raines. I just hope Morris doesn't make it would be worse than Rice.

Next year's ballot:

-- Craig Biggio
-- Barry Bonds
-- Roger Clemens
-- Mike Piazza
-- Curt Schilling
-- Sammy Sosa

 

[Doytch]

Oh, it got announced.

Cool. I still haven't decided where to grab dinner from tonight, though.

 

[yankeehater]

Next year's ballot:

-- Craig Biggio
-- Barry Bonds
-- Roger Clemens
-- Curt Schilling
-- Sammy Sosa

These 2 should get in.

 

[Mr. Enigma]

Piazza is also on next year's ballot too.

 

[Mr. Enigma]

Potential 2013 Ballot First-Timers:

-- Barry Bonds
-- Roger Clemens
-- Mike Piazza
-- Sammy Sosa
-- Curt Schilling
-- Craig Biggio
-- Jose Mesa
-- Roberto Hernandez
-- Kenny Lofton
-- David Wells
-- Steve Finley
-- Mike Stanton
-- Shawn Green
-- Bob Wickman
-- Julio Franco
-- Sandy Alomar
-- Jeff Cirillo
-- Mike Myers
-- Tony Batista
-- Royce Clayton
-- Steve Kline
-- Jeff Conine
-- Ryan Klesko
-- Aaron Sele
-- Preston Wilson
-- Woody Williams
-- Reggie Sanders
-- Damian Miller
-- Antonio Alfonseca
-- Mike Lieberthal
-- Jaret Wright
-- Todd Walker

Potential 2014 Ballot First-Timers

-- Greg Maddux
-- Frank Thomas
-- Tom Glavine
-- Jeff Kent
-- Mike Mussina
-- Luis Gonzalez
-- Moises Alou
-- Todd Jones
-- Armando Benitez
-- Kenny Rogers
-- Ray Durham
-- Mike Timlin
-- Eric Gagne
-- Richie Sexson
-- Jose Vidro
-- Sean Casey
-- Keith Foulke
-- Shannon Stewart
-- Matt Morris
-- Hideo Nomo
-- Dmitri Young
-- Paul Lo Duca
-- Joe Borowski
-- Geoff Jenkins
-- Esteban Loiaza
-- J.T. Snow
-- Shawn Estes
-- Jon Leiber

 

[acheron_xl]

Next year is when the shit hits the fan. Over/under on Bonds' and Clemens' percentage? 40?

Also, that 2014 list is loaded. At least 3 first timers are shoo-ins, and more could get in than that.

 

[FrenchToastDisciple]

Damn. Maddox, Glavine, and Frank Thomas all in one year? It's going to be hard to get in that year.

 

[acheron_xl]

Damn. Maddox, Glavine, and Frank Thomas all in one year? It's going to be hard to get in that year.

I think it'll take Mussina a couple of years, but he'll make it in when all is said and done.

 

[Joe]

Curt Schilling is going to be known to me as the guy who talked his way into the hof

I'm pretty sure he's borderline at best

 

[acheron_xl]

Curt Schilling is going to be known to me as the guy who talked his way into the hof

I'm pretty sure he's borderline at best

The Hall of wWAR says he's deserving. Better than Glavine, actually.

 

[darkside31337]

Mets put Fernando Martinez on waivers.

A completely unceremonious end but totally fitting for the Mets.

 

[HeySeuss]

It was only his third year on the ballot. :lol

Hey, I said I was biased...lol

 

[rekameohs]

No way Schilling should get in. The only way he has a chance is if they start valuing postseason more than they do now (aka Morris and Bernie Williams get in). I don't think either of the three should. Biggio and Piazza should definitely get in.

 

[CajoleJuice]

Schilling was much better than either Morris or Bernie.

 

[Malo]

Schilling was much better than either Morris or Bernie.

As was Mussina as well.

 

[SonicMegaDrive]

Congrats to Barry, honestly well-deserved.

Hopefully next year we'll be celebrating Craig Biggio and Rock Raines.

 

[rekameohs]

Schilling was much better than either Morris or Bernie.

True, but I'm just saying that in my opinion, he's still not HOF worthy. If either of them make it, then Schilling should.

 

[Sanjuro]

Probably the most boring HoF class of my lifetime.

Next year we will find out if we need to close up MLB for good.

Bonds
Clemens
Sosa
Piazza
Biggio
Schilling

 

[evil solrac v3.0]

Probably the most boring HoF class of my lifetime.

Next year we will find out if we need to close up MLB for good.

Bonds
Clemens
Sosa
Piazza
Biggio
Schilling

4 out 6 minimum.

 

[darkside31337]

Probably the most boring HoF class of my lifetime.

Next year we will find out if we need to close up MLB for good.

Bonds
Clemens
Sosa
Piazza
Biggio
Schilling

Last 3 get in, first 3 don't. Piazza gets in as the guy who might/probably have done steroids but we don't know for sure so lets put one in to be fair.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Bonds and Clemens not being in the HoF will just make it more irrelevant. Fucking writers turned it into a personal circle jerk.

 

[SonicMegaDrive]

Last 3 get in, first 3 don't. Piazza gets in as the guy who might/probably have done steroids but we don't know for sure so lets put one in to be fair.

I dunno, I thought Bagwell might have been that guy.

 

[acheron_xl]

Last 3 get in, first 3 don't. Piazza gets in as the guy who might/probably have done steroids but we don't know for sure so lets put one in to be fair.

I'm not sure Piazza makes it on the first ballot, myself. Just a hunch.

 

[Sanjuro]

I'm not sure Piazza makes it on the first ballot, myself. Just a hunch.

This is the one case where I hope they don't vote for him because he is gay. I just want one more Piazza sports section headline.

 

[Mr. Enigma]

David Kaplan of CSNChicago is reporting the Cubs and Tigers are progressing closer to a deal that will sent Matt Garza to the Tigers in exchange for a package of prospects. The Yankees, Red Sox, and Blue Jays are still in on gim though.

 

[Sanjuro]

Why?

 

[captmcblack]

The Tigers would have a super-rotation ala the Phils, Angels and Rays if they were to add Garza to what they already have, yes?


...no sir, I don't like it.

 

[newjeruse]

I'd still put them a step below all those rotations.

 

[CajoleJuice]

I'd still put them a step below all those rotations.

Yeah, I would too. Maybe I'm underrating Fister.

 

[talisayNon]

wake me when Bobby Bonilla is HOF elligible.

 

[CajoleJuice]

wake me when Bobby Bonilla is HOF elligible.

he got two votes in 2007

 

[yankeehater]

wake me when Bobby Bonilla is HOF elligible.

5 years after he is off the Mets payroll, so maybe 2020.

 

[newjeruse]

5 years after he is off the Mets payroll, so maybe 2020.

The actual date would be 2041. Seriously.

LOL Mets.

 

[Malo]

The actual date would be 2041. Seriously.

LOL Mets.

2041? Holy shit.

 

[captmcblack]

2041?
They'll be the Mercury Mets by then!

 

[Lambtron]

So, not only is yet another team going to get a significantly better haul for Garza than the Twins, he's coming back to the Central?

God I fucking hate you, Bill Smith.

 

[FrenchToastDisciple]

So, not only is yet another team going to get a significantly better haul for Garza than the Twins, he's coming back to the Central?

God I fucking hate you, Bill Smith.

yeah it might take a while to undo all the shit he pulled.

 

[Dmncnby2k9]

Mets payroll like the American government debt. Pass it on to the next generation.

 

[Sanjuro]

Bah.

 

[Corran Horn]

Potential 2013 Ballot First-Timers:

Bonds

 

[Sanjuro]

Bonds

Roger

 

[HeySeuss]

No cheaters allowed.

 

[evil solrac v3.0]

No cheaters allowed.

they didn't cheat.