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MLB Off-Season 2011: Only a few more weeks until the radio talks about baseball again

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Mrbob

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Brewers now get the ARAM SLAM. Had to be this way though with the Cubs in rebuilding mode. Plus Milwaukee needs a back up hitter to cover for the cheater for 50 games.

Perhaps Ramirez will actually hit the ball now in April and May playing inside a retractable roof.
 
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Mr. Enigma

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Brewers GM Doug Melvin said they officially ceased talks with Prince Fielder after signing Aramis Ramirez. Just a formality. Everyone knew he wasn't going back.
 
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BaltimoreLarry

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Time to get on here early to let my Oriole fandom this year. This is the year we finally break .500 and I don't want to be accused of being a bandwagon fan.

Dana Eveland and Darren O'Day? MAKIN' MOVES!!!!!

Die Angelos, die
 
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The Frankman

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The Mets say they have signed 27-year-old C Lucas May and 28-year-old LHP Garrett Olson to minor league deals, while claiming RHP Jeremy Hefner off waivers from the Pirates.

Also, tonight is the deadline for them to decide whether to cut or keep arbitration-eligible players Ronny Paulino, Mike Pelfrey and Manny Acosta.
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May is intriguing, but none of the guys probably will make the team. Paulino is gone, and Acosta COULD be.

Goddamn nontender Pelfrey, Mets.
AnEternalEnigma said:
Brewers traded third baseman Casey McGehee to the Pirates in exchange for relief pitcher Jose Veras.
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Pirates won the deal.
 
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darkside31337

Tomodachi wa Mahou
Ugh no. Rays tendered JP Howell a contract. Guy wouldn't even be good enough to pitch for the Mets, why the hell did they do that?

RHP Burke Badenhop, RHP Jeff Niemann, RHP Joel Peralta, LHP David Price and CF B.J. Upton all tendered, SP Andy Sonnanstine wasn't.
 
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mYm|17|

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darkside31337 said:
Ugh no. Rays tendered JP Howell a contract. Guy wouldn't even be good enough to pitch for the Mets, why the hell did they do that?

RHP Burke Badenhop, RHP Jeff Niemann, RHP Joel Peralta, LHP David Price and CF B.J. Upton all tendered, SP Andy Sonnanstine wasn't.
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Sonnanstine can go scrub somewhere else. Maybe JP will have a bounce back year
 
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darkside31337

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mYm|17| said:
Sonnanstine can go scrub somewhere else. Maybe JP will have a bounce back year
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Looking at his splits he's still a good LOOGY at worst and I could see a general bounceback too. Still figure they would have non-tendered and re-signed him like they did last season but I guess the FO thought somebody else was going to pony up more than the ~1.5 million he's due to make.

Either way glad Sonnanstine is gone.

Rafa=FedKilla said:
Everyone wants our pitchers. Tired of this, just trade Jemille Weeks for more pitchers. Bad teams are watchable if they have good pitching, billy doesn't realize it.
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A's really need some outfielders bad. Ryan Sweeney is currently the A's starting left fielder, center fielder and right fielder.
 
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Rafa=FedKilla

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you don't need outfielders if you have a pitcher like Trevor Cahill with a 52.3 percent groundball rate.

and another thing, you trade a cy young caliber talent for a need, but not a bunch of junk for that need. you can't take a guy seriously with the name cowgill, not even if he is standing alone in the outfield. and Cahill was cheap and under team control for a while.
 
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Mr. Enigma

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Complete list of non-tenders. The following players are now free agents and can sign with anyone.

Braves
-- 2B/3B Brooks Conrad (.223/.325/.388, 4 HR, 13 RBIs in 92 games, 0.6 fWAR)
-- P Peter Moylan (2-1, 3.24 ERA in 13 appearances; 0.3 fWAR)

Cardinals
-- 2B/SS Ryan Theriot (.272/.321/.342, 1 HR, 47 RBIs in 132 games; 0.7 fWAR)

Cubs
-- C Koyie Hill (.194/.268/.276, 2 HR, 9 RBIs in 46 games; -0.4 fWAR)

Diamondbacks
-- P Micah Owings (8-0, 3.57 ERA in 33 appearances [4 starts]; 0.1 fWAR)
-- P Joe Saunders (12-13, 3.69 ERA in 32 starts; 1.0 fWAR)

Dodgers
-- P Hong-Chih Kuo (1-2, 9.00 ERA in 40 appearances, -0.4 fWAR)

Giants
-- 2B/SS Jeff Keppinger (.277/.300/.377, 6 HR, 35 RBIs in 99 games with HOU/SF; 0.4 fWAR)
-- C Eli Whiteside (.197/.264/.310, 4 HR, 17 RBIs in 82 games; 0.1 fWAR)

Mariners
-- P Dan Cortes (0-2, 5.91 ERA in 10 appearances; -0.1 fWAR)
-- C/OF Chris Gimenez (.203/.314/.271, 1 HR, 6 RBIs in 24 games; 0.2 fWAR)

Marlins
-- P Clay Hensley (6-7, 5.19 ERA in 37 appearances [9 starts]; -0.1 fWAR)

Mets
-- OF Mike Baxter (.235/.350/.441, 1 HR, 4 RBIs in 22 games, 0.3 fWAR)
-- C Ronny Paulino (.268/.312/.361, 2 HR, 19 RBIs in 78 games, 0.3 fWAR)

Nationals
-- P Doug Slaten (0-2, 4.41 ERA in 31 appearances; -0.3 fWAR)

Orioles
-- P Willie Eyre (2-2, 3.44 ERA in 19 appearances; 0.1 fWAR)
-- P Jo-Jo Reyes (7-11, 5.57 ERA in 29 appearances [25 starts] with TOR/BAL; 0.7 fWAR)
-- DH/OF Luke Scott (.220/.301/.402, 9 HR, 22 RBIs in 64 games; -0.1 fWAR)

Padres
-- OF Jeremy Hermida (.190/.288/.362, 2 HR, 9 RBIs in 30 games with CIN/SD; 0.4 fWAR)

Rangers
-- P Fabio Castillo (did not play in MLB in 2011)

Rays
-- P Andy Sonnanstine (0-2, 5.55 ERA in 15 games [4 starts]; -0.8 fWAR)

Red Sox
-- P Rich Hill (0-0, 0.00 ERA in 9 appearances; 0.3 fWAR)

Rockies
-- OF Cole Garner (.222/.300/.222, 0 HR, 3 RBIs in 4 games; 0.0 fWAR)
-- OF Ryan Spilborghs (.210/.283/.305, 3 HR, 22 RBIs in 94 games; -1.1 fWAR)

Royals
-- P Aaron Laffey (3-2, 3.88 ERA in 47 appearances with SEA/NYY; -0.5 fWAR)

Tigers
-- 2B Will Rhymes (.235/.323/.271, 0 HR, 2 RBIs in 29 games; -0.2 fWAR)

Twins
-- P Jose Mijares (0-2, 4.59 ERA in 58 appearances; -0.3 fWAR)
 
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eznark

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AnEternalEnigma said:
Brewers GM Doug Melvin said they officially ceased talks with Prince Fielder after signing Aramis Ramirez. Just a formality. Everyone knew he wasn't going back.
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Yeah, they also dropped talks with Carlos Pena. Supposedly the ARam deal has a lot of deferred money to help in 2012 since Boras is a twat, but Melvin said the payroll is already "extended way beyond where we wanted to go."

I think they will still look to extend Greinke once he settles on representation but beyond that this is the roster. Were it not for the Braun shit, I would tentatively love this off-season.
 
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Fox318

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darkside31337 said:
Rays traded for Burke Badenhop. Prime ROOGY material, guy has crazy splits. Revamping the bullpen without spending any money, maybe some other teams that are supposedly strapped for cash should learn something from that.

The owners of the Mets, needing cash and unable to turn to Major League Baseball for more financial help, received a $40 million loan from a major bank in the past six weeks.

The team described the arrangement as a “bridge loan,” meant to aid them as they try to raise money through the sale of minority stakes in the club.
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40 million is nothing compared to the debt that the mets owe every month. MLB needs to step in and take over the organization.
 
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eznark

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Fox318 said:
40 million is nothing compared to the debt that the mets owe every month. MLB needs to step in and take over the organization.
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The $40 million is meant to assist the organization in getting a larger loan. It will (likely) act as subordinated debt that will (ideally) finance further debt. It's a positive step towards digging themselves out of the hole.
 
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eznark

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Odds that the Cardinals don't receive 1/10th of the criticism the Marlins got for supposedly inflating their offer to media outlets?

Deidre Pujols dispensed Monday with the hints. Two days after broadly hinting at frustration with the Cardinals' approach toward her husband's high-profile free agency, Deidre Pujols insisted Monday that the club never guaranteed a 10-year offer to three-time National League MVP Albert Pujols. During a lengthy morning interview with local Christian radio station KLJY (99.1 FM), Deidre Pujols described the Cardinals' initial five-year, $130 million offer as an "insult" and inconsistent with the club's oft-stated desire to keep her husband as "a Cardinal for life." She also said she believes the city has "absolutely been deceived" by media reports regarding the Cardinals' level of commitment.

Read more: http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/319797?eref=twitter_feed#ixzz1gQGVnuTT
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Also, how fucking moronic do the Angels feel right now, holy shit! Talk about getting played.
 
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richiek

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http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/mets_owners_take_loan_KNiNFpkgEyFRV3jIheL2MO#ixzz1gQZJstE8

The owners of the cash-strapped New York Mets have taken a $40 million bank loan while they try to sell minority stakes in the team.

A Mets spokesman confirmed today that a single major bank extended it the “bridge” loan in the last month or two. In November 2010, the club borrowed $25 million from Major League Baseball to tide it over.

Fred Wilpon and co-owner Saul Katz are trying to line up as many as 10 buyers for stakes worth $20 million to $30 million apiece.

Last month, the owners sweetened their pitch to prospective investors and said they are willing to pay 3 percent interest annually on the stakes over six years.

“The process for the sale of minority shares in the team continues to go very well,” the team said in a statement.

The Mets arranged for the new loan as some big bills were coming due. Last month, the Mets made a $15 million to $20 million revenue-sharing payment to MLB, in which all the teams combine 31 percent of their local revenue and then split the pot evenly.

On Thursday, the team must pay the New York City Industrial Development Agency $26 million for interest on bonds sold to build the team’s stadium, Citi Field.

Money to pay the stadium bonds is supposed to come from a Mets subsidiary, Queens Ballpark, which collects funds from naming rights and club-seat sales, according to sources.

Sources told The Post that the Mets existing lenders were concerned about the team’s ability to make both payments.

A source close to the situation said that the bridge loan was borrowed for working capital, and an interest payment to the city would fall into that category.

The Fred Wilpon and Saul Katz owned Mets were under great pressure to make both these payments, as the team already owed $25 million to MLB for its 2010 revenue sharing payment and in November was asking it for an extension on that one-year loan.

When MLB extended the $25 million emergency loan last year, it pressured the Mets to find a minority owner. The ongoing process has taken more than a year; a $200 million deal to sell a minority stake to hedge fund manager David Einhorn collapsed.

A source close to the baseball commissioner’s office recently told the Post that the league is finally had enough of enabling the Wilpons.

The Mets’ existing bank lenders, led by JPMorgan Chase, are owed about $500 million. Although the team will lose roughly $70 million this year, the lenders believe they will be repaid because the Mets would fetch about $900 million through an outright sale.
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Please God, let this be true. The commissioner's office shitcanned the McCourts pretty quickly, but because Selig has a relationship with the Wilpons, so he's enabled them to continue to own the team. The sooner they sell the Mets, the better.
 
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eznark said:
Odds that the Cardinals don't receive 1/10th of the criticism the Marlins got for supposedly inflating their offer to media outlets?



Also, how fucking moronic do the Angels feel right now, holy shit! Talk about getting played.
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Deidre Pujols is full of shit. They offered him a 9-year deal back in January and knew he wanted a lengthy contract. Why would they then offer him a 5-year deal now?
 
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BFIB

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Eh, there's conflicting stories everywhere on what the Cardinals offered. Mo was on a few local stations, and said that the Cards had the 10 year offer on the table, but never heard back from Lozano or Pujols, only were notified when Pujols agreed to sign w/ the Angels.

So, basically, Lozano in '09 at the initial sit-down stated "We start at A-Rods contract". So, the Cards made an effort to give him the high AAV at 5/130, or the 10 year blanket contract, that even if he signs that instead, still would have been the 2nd highest contract ever handed out to a player.

Pujols signed for $254 million, $2 million more than A-Rods first contract, with the ability to surpass A-Rods 2nd contract. Coincidence? I think not. He wanted the money, and he got it.

One more small note too. Why do players wives feel that its up to them to be the mouthpiece? Diedre Pujols has been on numerous shows in St. Louis trying to make the Cardinals out to be the "bad guys". She quickly backtracked on her interview w/ KSDK, an interview that initially was not a part of, but somehow, she's on the interview last night:

http://www.ksdk.com/

Not to sound like an ass, but seriously, no one wants to hear from her. All she's doing is making this whole charade worse. No one is going to feel sorry for anyone torn between $210 million and $254 million. Except other baseball players.

Here's Berkman on 590The Fan earlier this morning, basically stating "Its always about the money."

http://www.insidestl.com/insideSTLc...iew/articleId/7943/Tuesdays-Show-Audio--.aspx
 
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MC Safety

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eznark said:
The $40 million is meant to assist the organization in getting a larger loan. It will (likely) act as subordinated debt that will (ideally) finance further debt. It's a positive step towards digging themselves out of the hole.
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This seems like voodoo mathematics.

Sandy Alderson reported the Mets lost $70 million, the Mets have yet to pay back $25 million loaned by Major League Baseball last year, and are now receiving funding (again, approved by MLB) through Bank of America. And the team has yet to find anyone to buy a partial ownership.

The Dodgers were in similar economic straits, and its owner was forced by MLB to sell the team. This will not happen with the Mets because Bud Selig is friendly with the Wilpons.

And the fish stinks from the head down.
 
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richiek

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MC Safety said:
The Dodgers were in similar economic straits, and its owner was forced by MLB to sell the team. This will not happen with the Mets because Bud Selig is friendly with the Wilpons.
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Ahem:

A source close to the baseball commissioner’s office recently told the Post that the league is finally had enough of enabling the Wilpons.
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EDIT: also

the lenders believe they will be repaid because the Mets would fetch about $900 million through an outright sale.
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eznark

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I love how quickly individuals go from rock-solid, always trusted beloved pillars of the community to "full of shit" the minute they leave town!
 
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BFIB

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eznark said:
I love how quickly individuals go from rock-solid, always trusted beloved pillars of the community to "full of shit" the minute they leave town!
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Agreed. Its just part of the free agency of baseball, and other sports. And I don't really have any ill-will towards Pujols, and his decision. He took the money, that I don't have a problem with.

The problem I have is that he is the one who backed himself in a corner, stating how he is wanting to be a "Cardinal for life", and how its "not about the money. I have my money". Talking about how he idolizes Stan Musial, and how he only hopes to achieve what he has as a Cardinal. Just come out and state "I want to do whats best for me and my family" and leave it at that. Instead, his wife is out parading to any outlet like they are the victims in all of this. Thats my main issue.
 
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Ravager61

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eznark said:
I love how quickly individuals go from rock-solid, always trusted beloved pillars of the community to "full of shit" the minute they leave town!
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I said his wife is full of shit. Which she is. She's been contradicting herself to the media while Albert has remained relatively quiet.


nemss said:
The problem I have is that he is the one who backed himself in a corner, stating how he is wanting to be a "Cardinal for life", and how its "not about the money. I have my money". Talking about how he idolizes Stan Musial, and how he only hopes to achieve what he has as a Cardinal. Just come out and state "I want to do whats best for me and my family" and leave it at that. Instead, his wife is out parading to any outlet like they are the victims in all of this. Thats my main issue.
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Well said. This is the problem most Cardinal fans have with this whole deal.
 
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