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MLB Off-Season 2011: Only a few more weeks until the radio talks about baseball again
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twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
As long as the Marlins are no longer the Phillies' doormat, I'll consider it a successful season.
Hopefully the Nats aren't the Marlins doormat so we can give you some competition.
I always liked the A's, Braves and Dodgers unis. Blue Jays new jerseys get a spot on my wishlist as well.Braun doesn't really look like a roider, but I guess it doesn't matter. Still, if his head isn't thick, you must acquit. "Twice the highest level" thing seals it. Braun is going to be proven innocent.
On a side note, do you any of you guy have baseball jerseys of teams that aren't your favorite team because you think they look cool? I have wanted the Washington Nationals road jersey for years now. One of these days I'm going to buy it.
The Frankman
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Ryan Braun got 4 balls and no shaft. I'm calling it now.
sf2fanatic
Member
Time to trade him from my fantasy team....
Been out of town this weekend and starting lol on Braun. Poor ez.
Yeah right im gonna love this..Did watch The Machine and C.J. put on that new uni
acheron_xl
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andthebeatgoeson
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Some would say the same about the braves.
Been out of town this weekend and starting lol on Braun. Poor ez.
Did watch The Machine and C.J. put on that new uni
I melted down, now I am pragmatic. I firmly believe they should move Braun if he is proven a cheater. It appears to me that this is going to be beyond muddled.
My best guess is that Braun is exonerated amid cloudy circumstances and no one is happy Now they are talking about issues with procedure, chain of custody issues and results so far off the bell curve as to be implausible.
My heart says he was fucked, my head says he is probably a disgusting cheater. The worst part about this is that it's now impossible to follow baseball news. So, if I disappear from the thread it's for that reason. There just isn't anything to be said about Braun til the findings are revealed, but that won't stop ESPN from saying it.
Why is the M so big?!?
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
BBWAA has no plan to strip Braun of MVP
I think this is garbage. Unlike the examples he listed MLB actually knew that Braun failed a drug test well before the voting happened, this information shouldn't have been kept in secrecy away from the voters. And even so this isn't nearly the same thing as going back 10 years in the past to change an award, it's still 2011.
I think this is garbage. Unlike the examples he listed MLB actually knew that Braun failed a drug test well before the voting happened, this information shouldn't have been kept in secrecy away from the voters. And even so this isn't nearly the same thing as going back 10 years in the past to change an award, it's still 2011.
AlanzTalon
Member
stop it. they aren't moving him anywhere. if he misses 50 games so be it, but they are not going to just let a guy like that go, innocent or not. just stop.
Of course they won't move him, no where do I say they will. I'm merely stating my preference. I don't want whatever this team is able to accomplish over the next 8 years tarnished.
AlanzTalon
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there is no such thing as purity. get wins, make money.
You are delusional to think they ever would.
Joe Shlabotnik
Banned
I think eznark's right that the odds of us ever getting a straightforward answer about what the fuck happened are slim, unfortunately. And that's depressing.
Little Green Yoda
Member
The test happened prior to the new CBA so probably not. There's been talk whether the new policy to publically reveal which PED a player tested positive for should be retroactively applied to this case though.
As for "getting away with it", I wonder how easily something like this passes under the radar during a 162 game season. Despite a supposedly tougher testing policy, it's not feasible to test everyone regularly. I mean, unless Braun only took w/e he took during the playoffs, the testing didn't root him out all season! Doesn't sound like it's that hard to get away with it if you look at it that way.
RumblingRosco
Member
Greinke to STL. Make it happen.
acheron_xl
Member
I wanted the Brewers to be a big story in the offseason for a number of reasons. This isn't one of them. Be careful what you wish for, I guess.
*shrug*
It just is, I guess. At least I don't think it feels as heavy as the giant angry bird the Jays were wearing for the last several years.
That M is monstrous. But the hugeness of the Jay was the reason I went with the black T hat when I was picking between the two.
Red Canada Day version > all tho. Love that one. I don't wear caps a lot, but if I do, it's that one. And I'll probably get this years Canada Day hat, too.
acheron_xl
Member
The toothpaste T cap seemed like an admission that their primary was crappy. Admittedly, I do own one of the big bird caps, but it's the graphite one. I couldn't resist.
Rafa=FedKilla
Banned
Darvish darvish Darvish!
Um, that's because Manny was caught taking HcG--a common substance used to reverse the testicular side effects associated with steroids. Sure he wasn't caught using steroids, but it doesn't take a genius to figure out why Manny would take HcG.
Yankee-GAF had/has every right to bash Manny; and if Braun is caught taking similar substances (HcG, Clomid, Tamoxifen, etc...) then all this bashing is justified, as well.
Hypocrite.
Wednesday.
Can't wait until this stupid hand-wringing is over. About as dumb as caring about corked bats.
Not quite. I have taken the aforementioned substances, unfortunately, so I know what I'm talking about.
Wednesday.
Can't wait until this stupid hand-wringing is over. About as dumb as caring about corked bats.
Pretty much. Don't care about reliving the mid-00s.
...why does it matter if you have taken any of these supplements?
Well, why are you calling me a hypocrite? It doesn't really make sense given what I said.
Sure it does. Replace David Ortiz with Manny for example.
No it doesn't make sense, and I advise you to choose your words more carefully next time. I wasn't making the comparison between David Ortiz and Braun. I was making the comparison between Manny and Braun. If David Ortiz was found using the previously mentioned substances, then yes he, too, deserves to be bashed by fans and the media. So what's your point, exactly?
For what it's worth we still-to this day-have no idea what David Ortiz was taking, at least I don't. We don't know what Braun was taking, either, but my original post was a hypothetical anyways.
The original point was Manny getting flack from the Yankee fans. David Ortiz has received the same treatment, even more if we are comparing the examples.
Your point is assumptions alone are justified enough to bash. Why do we need to wait for Braun?
acheron_xl
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I don't know how I feel about this, personally. ARam really fucked over some of my fantasy teams in 2010, and I've held a grudge ever since.
In other news, Ben Francisco has been traded to the Jays. Phils get Frank Gailey.
It's great, assuming the money isn't crazy.
They also signed Travis Ishikawa to a minor league deal.
The Brewers just made their team significantly better. I couldn't care less. Ugh, this is awful.
Pretty sure you could care less.
At the end of the day you're still in the NL Central. You have a good chance of still making the post season and having a formidable team assembled.
Probably Aramis?
Potentially a Gamel/McGehee platoon as it stands now. I assume they will try and move KRod or Marcum though, possibly for Morales? That's just my speculation looking at needs/wants.
Based on what I'm hearing, KRod is not going to be moved. If this fevered "Greinke wants to go" rumor (which looks to be bullshit at this point) is true then moving him to Anaheim is a no-brainer.
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The Frankman
Banned
I was addressing the claim that banned substances =/= steroids. I stated that while Braun may have not been caught taking steroids, he could face a similar situation as Manny--who was caught taking HcG: a drug used to combat testicular side-effects of steroids. Thus, the bashing directed towards Braun is justified if he is caught taking similar substances because HcG and Clomid are for pregnant women and steroid users.
I am indifferent about the Yankees, indifferent about the Red Sox, and definitely indifferent about the Brewers. I just don't care about those teams (and said players) enough to be "hypocritical."
I think Braun deserves the bashing regardless--he was caught taking a "P.E.D". Manny deserved the bashing, and Ortiz deserved it as well. These people are ruining the game, in my opinion. It's not fair for the other players who are actually playing sans steroids.
smokeandmirrors
Banned
Gailey any good?
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