Mr. Enigma
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The Braves are fucking disgustingly bad right now.
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MLB - Official 2012 Season Thread: Bringing in Bobby V to Change Our Culture |OT2|
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the braves would have to be a laughing stock of the league to make you understand, they are not at that level yet.
Dmncnby2k9
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Werd. These last 5 losses have to be the worst stretch in awhile.
Beltre is a Grade A P.O.S.
I can't tell you how much I wish he had lost his dick to an unlucky line drive.
aug 31st - sept 2nd... we just need to make them lose... when they have had our number in the second half this year and last, while they are at home where they play much better ball...
Hawk "It's not who you play it's when you play them"
Beltre is not making the Hall of Fame. He's had two elite seasons.
Mr. Enigma
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STANDINGS UPDATE FOR AUGUST 24
-- Yankees lead over the Rays in the AL East increased to 3.5 games
-- Yankees lead over the Orioles in the AL East remained at 5.0 games
-- White Sox lead over the Tigers in the AL Central increased to 2.5 games
-- Rangers lead over the Athletics in the AL West remained at 6.0 games
-- Rays lead over Athletics/Orioles in AL Wild Card #1 decreased to 1.5 games
-- Athletics and Orioles remain tied for AL Wild Card #2
-- Athletics/Orioles lead over Tigers in AL Wild Card #2 increased to 1.0 game
-- Athletics/Orioles lead over Angels in AL Wild Card #2 remained at 2.5 games
-- Nationals lead over Braves in NL East remained at 6.5 games
-- Reds lead over the Cardinals in the NL Central decreased to 6.0 games
-- Giants lead over the Dodgers in the NL West remained at 3.0 games
-- Braves lead over the Cardinals in NL Wild Card #1 decreased to 1.5 games
-- Cardinals lead over Dodgers in NL Wild Card #2 remained at 1.5 games
-- Cardinals lead over Pirates in NL Wild Card #2 increased to 2.0 games
-- Cardinals lead over the Diamondbacks in NL Wild Card #2 increased to 5.5 games
Remaining games:
Yankees - 37 (19 away, 18 home, 3 off-days / 15 vs. +.500)
White Sox - 38 (19 away, 19 home, 2 off-days / 18 vs. +.500)
Rangers - 37 (19 away, 18 home, 3 off-days / 19 vs. +.500)
Rays - 36 (19 away, 17 home, 4 off-days / 23 vs. +.500)
Athletics - 37 (23 away, 14 home, 3 off-days / 24 vs. +.500)
Orioles - 37 (18 away, 18 home, 3 off-days / 20 vs. +.500)
Tigers - 37 (19 away, 18 home, 3 off-days / 15 vs. +.500)
Angels - 36 (17 away, 19 home, 4 off-days / 21 vs. +.500)
Nationals - 37 (16 away, 21 home, 3 off-days / 13 vs. +.500)
Reds - 35 (19 away, 16 home, 5 off-days / 17 vs. +.500)
Giants - 36 (18 away, 18 home, 4 off-days / 17 vs. +.500)
Braves - 36 (20 away, 16 home, 4 off-days / 8 vs. +.500)
Cardinals - 37 (22 away, 15 home, 3 off-days / 19 vs. +.500)
Dodgers - 36 (17 away, 19 home, 4 off-days / 22 vs. +.500)
Pirates - 37 (17 away, 20 home, 3 off-days / 12 vs. +.500)
Diamondbacks - 36 (17 away, 19 home, 4 off-days / 18 vs. +.500)
-- Yankees lead over the Rays in the AL East increased to 3.5 games
-- Yankees lead over the Orioles in the AL East remained at 5.0 games
-- White Sox lead over the Tigers in the AL Central increased to 2.5 games
-- Rangers lead over the Athletics in the AL West remained at 6.0 games
-- Rays lead over Athletics/Orioles in AL Wild Card #1 decreased to 1.5 games
-- Athletics and Orioles remain tied for AL Wild Card #2
-- Athletics/Orioles lead over Tigers in AL Wild Card #2 increased to 1.0 game
-- Athletics/Orioles lead over Angels in AL Wild Card #2 remained at 2.5 games
-- Nationals lead over Braves in NL East remained at 6.5 games
-- Reds lead over the Cardinals in the NL Central decreased to 6.0 games
-- Giants lead over the Dodgers in the NL West remained at 3.0 games
-- Braves lead over the Cardinals in NL Wild Card #1 decreased to 1.5 games
-- Cardinals lead over Dodgers in NL Wild Card #2 remained at 1.5 games
-- Cardinals lead over Pirates in NL Wild Card #2 increased to 2.0 games
-- Cardinals lead over the Diamondbacks in NL Wild Card #2 increased to 5.5 games
Remaining games:
Yankees - 37 (19 away, 18 home, 3 off-days / 15 vs. +.500)
White Sox - 38 (19 away, 19 home, 2 off-days / 18 vs. +.500)
Rangers - 37 (19 away, 18 home, 3 off-days / 19 vs. +.500)
Rays - 36 (19 away, 17 home, 4 off-days / 23 vs. +.500)
Athletics - 37 (23 away, 14 home, 3 off-days / 24 vs. +.500)
Orioles - 37 (18 away, 18 home, 3 off-days / 20 vs. +.500)
Tigers - 37 (19 away, 18 home, 3 off-days / 15 vs. +.500)
Angels - 36 (17 away, 19 home, 4 off-days / 21 vs. +.500)
Nationals - 37 (16 away, 21 home, 3 off-days / 13 vs. +.500)
Reds - 35 (19 away, 16 home, 5 off-days / 17 vs. +.500)
Giants - 36 (18 away, 18 home, 4 off-days / 17 vs. +.500)
Braves - 36 (20 away, 16 home, 4 off-days / 8 vs. +.500)
Cardinals - 37 (22 away, 15 home, 3 off-days / 19 vs. +.500)
Dodgers - 36 (17 away, 19 home, 4 off-days / 22 vs. +.500)
Pirates - 37 (17 away, 20 home, 3 off-days / 12 vs. +.500)
Diamondbacks - 36 (17 away, 19 home, 4 off-days / 18 vs. +.500)
LyleLanley
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@JonHeymanCBS said:
@JonHeymanCBS said:
I'll miss you Gonzo.
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
hehe
You should add the Mariners, get the magic going!
LyleLanley
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@JonHeymanCBS said:
Beckett's going to fuck this up isn't he?
HarryDemeanor
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Please do, Beckett. Fuck it all up!
acheron_xl
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I love waking up and reading about batshit crazy waiver trades.
I'm so happy the Dodgers have new owners. Makes things much more interesting.
I'm so happy the Dodgers have new owners. Makes things much more interesting.
Ninja Scooter
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do they test for fried chicken and coors light when they give players physicals?
sf2fanatic
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I told you braves are more in panic mode than the Dodgers...
So how long would we had to wait til Webster comes to the big show? Plus what if he ends up to be another Dreifort?
So how long would we had to wait til Webster comes to the big show? Plus what if he ends up to be another Dreifort?
Mr. Enigma
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When they hit .500, they're in.
Losing Gonzalez is worth unloading Beckett and Crawford's entire contracts. Ben Cherington just moved in front of the line for AL executive of the year.
So in three years?
endresults
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We get to play the Astros 15 times a season starting next year. 92-70 will be the new .500
1. Gonzalez wasn't a free agent.
2. I'd say in order to qualify as being huge busts the Sox would have needed to be saddled with the contracts long term. Otherwise they pale in comparison to the damage done by things like the Renteria signing, Lackey (who has been worse than replacement level), etc. where the Sox tied themselves up financially for guys who couldn't produce and couldn't be moved at any point.
3. This is basically swapping Rizzo, Kelly, and Fuentes for De La Rosa, Webster, Sands, and De Jesus, with a 1.5 year gap where the Sox were trying to make one last veteran fueled push. Being able to throw a quarter billion dollars out one off-season to make a hard push at the tail end of a window and then somehow make those quarter billion dollar commitments disappear and bring back comparable prospects is amazing.
worldrunover
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So excuse the dumb question. How can this trade go through after the trade deadline? Every player from both sides has to clear waivers? What about the minor leaguers? I know trades happen after the deadline, but they aren't usually blockbusters like this.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
How was Gonzales a bust?
Career low in text messaging.
Dmncnby2k9
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Lol. So they got rid of Gonzalez the sender and Kelly Shoppach the writer of tthe text about Valentine? Bobby wins!
Thinking over it further, I kind of like this trade. It makes us non-players in free agency, but unless we were signing Josh Hamilton, I don't think that's a huge issue with this year's free agent class, especially after Cole Hamels signed an extension.
The lineup is undeniably better, and we get rid of our biggest weakness. With Cruz doing well at 3B, the lineup doesn't really have a weakness, actually. Neither Ellis is a fearsome hitter, but both are good OBP guys, and Kemp, A-Gon, Hanley, and Ethier are a formidable core.
I still hate acquiring Crawford. If he were a 2B, SS, or 3B putting up those numbers, that would be one thing, but he's an OF with a career-high .852 OPS who got overpaid for his speed. At 31, his fastest days are behind him, and he'll be 36 before he comes off the books. But it's the owners' money. If they want to pay him to sit on the bench, that's fine, as long as they're willing to spend more to improve the team if necessary.
This deal will look terrible if the prospects turn out to be elite players, but the list of highly regarded prospects who amounted to jackshit is longer than my... well, it's long.
The lineup is undeniably better, and we get rid of our biggest weakness. With Cruz doing well at 3B, the lineup doesn't really have a weakness, actually. Neither Ellis is a fearsome hitter, but both are good OBP guys, and Kemp, A-Gon, Hanley, and Ethier are a formidable core.
I still hate acquiring Crawford. If he were a 2B, SS, or 3B putting up those numbers, that would be one thing, but he's an OF with a career-high .852 OPS who got overpaid for his speed. At 31, his fastest days are behind him, and he'll be 36 before he comes off the books. But it's the owners' money. If they want to pay him to sit on the bench, that's fine, as long as they're willing to spend more to improve the team if necessary.
This deal will look terrible if the prospects turn out to be elite players, but the list of highly regarded prospects who amounted to jackshit is longer than my... well, it's long.
talisayNon
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SMEAR CAMPAIGN BEGINS
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseba...ez-crawford/S0ZiybrrzbshA92QDWupQO/story.html
boston is the worst place in america (after every place in the south)
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseba...ez-crawford/S0ZiybrrzbshA92QDWupQO/story.html
boston is the worst place in america (after every place in the south)
talisayNon
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Comment about Mike Francessa on TheGangGreen:
:jnc
:jnc
This "smear" campaign began awhile back. Media people haven't been thrilled with A-gon since last years collapse that he said had to do with Gods plan or whatever. He's a religious looney toon.
Just wanted to chime in and say false, depending on the score/state of the game. It would obviously be late in the game (or the game would be well out of hand) and it is totally acceptable to trot to first on an extra base hit if it completes the cycle. "The book" thinking is that you don't get any statistical recognition for two doubles a triple and a home run so as long as it doesn't cost your team anything take the cycle.
source - Jeff Cirillo spring training 2007
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The Autumn Wind
Mets haven't scored more than 2 runs in a game all week.
I demand an apology for being called too pessimistic about this team earlier.
Boston sports media is a deplorable establishment.
Gonna fit with the people in LA then.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
SoCal culture.
matthewwhatever
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Why would anyone willingly go to the Red Sox? You know that you're signing up for constant attacks in a toxic media environment, and that as soon as you leave/get run out of town, they'll run a smear campaign against you. When was the last time anyone left that didn't get their name dragged through the mud right away? I mean, the truckfuls of money they can offer would obviously be enticing, but it doesn't seem like the most desirable place to play.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
If he produces 2 more years like he has the first 2 years with the Rangers, I would say he has a pretty good shot.
Money?
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
"Hopefully this deal will go through today," Red Sox chairman Tom Werner said Saturday morning. "If it falls into place, the deal sheds us from tens of millions of dollars of long-term commitments. It gets us great prospects who will improve our major league roster as soon as next year. It brings us a player in James Loney who was 'untouchable' a couple of years ago. It allows us to start over with free agents. We want to win for our fans and we now have huge financial flexibility to improve the team."
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