He had to because salty made a shitty unnecessary throw. Not enough people here ripping him.
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MLB Postseason 2013 |OT| - Chicken n Beer-less Diet
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He had to because salty made a shitty unnecessary throw. Not enough people here ripping him.
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The Autumn Wind
You know this doesn't matter, right?
He collides with Middlebrooks left leg, initiating the contact, then touches him again while he's on the ground. Also, Craig doesn't trip over Middlebrooks feet, he trips on his thigh.
He didn't dive for the ball, he was playing the ball, and Craig hit him(legally) which caused him to fall to the ground. The initial contact of Craig sliding into Middlebrooks led to the obstruction. It wasn't Middlebrooks fault, it was Craig's
Carpe Libertatem
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Right, and the umps said exactly this in the post-game interview. The feet didn't really matter - his body is in the basepath
A) Craig starts running home
B) Middlebrooks is right in the middle of Craig's path to home plate
C) Middlebrooks does not have the ball nor is he attempting to field a ball near him.
There, obstruction. Every other ancillary detail literally does not matter at all. Not even a little bit.
B) Middlebrooks is right in the middle of Craig's path to home plate
C) Middlebrooks does not have the ball nor is he attempting to field a ball near him.
There, obstruction. Every other ancillary detail literally does not matter at all. Not even a little bit.
I'm getting tired of pasting the rule. Maybe he has me on ignore!
Oh yeah, anyone paying attention knows this is 100% on him. He eats that ball like he should have and the inning progresses like normal. They're probably still playing.
Poor argument logic. Just because the play is correct, doesn't alter the events that happened because "they don't matter". It's still dialog constructed from the play.
Square Triangle
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The ruling says that particular body parts don't count. Duhhh
You should inform Middlebrooks. He dove and said he had no where to go. He didn't fall.
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The Autumn Wind
To be fair, I'm sure plenty of people have you on ignore.
Well, that was rude.
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Square Triangle
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Bed time. So much excitement and lack of reading comprehension has worn me out.
Do you watch football? Let me compare it to a different rule.
When a WR and a CB's legs get tied up unintentionally, they don't usually call Pass Interference, because it's not either players fault.
In this case, Craig's slide caused Middlebrooks to the ground, which in turn caused the obstruction because he was hit in the leg causing him to lose his balance and go to the ground. If Craig never slid into Middlebrooks' leg and it was just Middlebrooks independently diving for the ball, I completely understand the obstruction call, but Craig initiated and forced Middlebrooks to the ground.
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If only MLB and the NFL shared a rule book!
It's past your bedtime.
If only baseball had common sense rules. Like the elbow pad hit on Beltran counting, when he should've gotten out of the way.
Is this the NFL? Do judgment calls in the NFL have any relevancy to the rules of the MLB? No? Then why even bring it up.
Also read my last sentence again. Any other details besides the ones I posted do. not. matter. End of discussion.
It'd be awesome if the sox/pats could just lose and not always have some stupid subjective call decide the end.
Careful, our 2-hole hitter is only getting on base because he crowds the plate.
Careful, our 2-hole hitter is only getting on base because he crowds the plate.
King Tubby
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Wrong. Watch the overhead broadcast angle. Craig makes no contact with Middlebrooks on the slide; Middlebrooks falls on his own.
Cross sports arguments? Shame on you. I'm off to bed with this one.
TheBryanJZX90
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Both teams are pretty dang unliked. And yet almost all of the neutral people are saying the right call was made.
The Frankman
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Towards the call? No. Hypothetical discussion and revisionist history are still relevant.
Yeah, and do you watch the WWE? Tripping a player would totally be allowed there. Craig should feel lucky he wasn't hit by a chair on the way home.
Syphon Filter
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shots fired
I don't get the Boston hate, it's not like we are WS dominators. We have 6 wins in 101 years, while STL has 11.
At least that would explain the shittiness of the umps for both teams in this series and during the ALCS
From a New Yorker, I can say that I was always amazed at the sort of David-Vs-Goliath framing of the Yankees/Red Sox rivalry. Yes, the Yankees are the richest team in baseball; the Red Sox are 2nd or 3rd. It's more like Goliath vs A-Slightly-Smaller-Goliath.
You're a very rich team that has won the WS twice in the last decade. That's all it takes, really.
lol a rivalry means both teams win sometimes. Till 04, it was more like a yearly beat down.
Also Stl has the same amount this decade
There is still a $60+ million difference between the two teams in 2013, lets not pretend the Yankees aren't in a class by themselves over the past decade when it comes to payroll. Yes, I agree that the Red Sox aren't the Astros, but the difference between 1st and 2nd/3rd is often two or three teams worth of players.
http://deadspin.com/2013-payrolls-and-salaries-for-every-mlb-team-462765594
Seriously, does every Red Sox fan have to fit the same severely annoying passive-aggressive woe-is-us mold? Can't you just appreciate having a good team to root for without trying to push your unsympathetic inferiority complex down everyone's throats?
King Tubby
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Middlebrooks wasn't taken out on the slide. Watch the overhead view, they didn't knock knees or anything. There wasn't any contact before Middlebrooks fell over.
New York sounds like it has an inferiority complex to you? If anything New Yorkers are insufferably smug and superior. Best city in the world, 27 rings, etc.
Sounds like New York to me!
Thanks for proving my point. Did the Red Sox run over your dog?
You're not going to find much sympathy when you guys have a $160 million payroll. As for the Yankees, they've made their bed and are sleeping in it.
Doesn't sound like you ever lived there.
Lol wtf?
All the people in here hating, shit ... half of them aren't even fuckin Card fans. It's sad. I hope we win this whole WS so you can all eat crow, crow covered in shit.
King Tubby
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I've lived there my entire life. I've never heard any sort of woe-is-us sentiment. Well, maybe Mets fans.
Boston has the 5th Highest payroll at $140 Million, St. Louis is 14th with $102 Million. It's not like it's that huge a difference.
Is explaining the rule properly somehow hating on the sox? The correct call was clearly made.
Yeah, and there is about as much of a difference between the Diamondbacks and the Red Sox as there is between the Sox and the Yankees. Just because the Red Sox spend as much as most big payroll teams doesn't mean the Yankees don't spend significantly more than that. They are really in a league by themselves and it's foolish to infer otherwise.
Don't worry, I still like you.
Naw not you man, but some ppl
Giants, Dodgers, Mets / Jets / Knicks / Islanders, Rangers
I'd say Yankee and Harlem Globetrotter fans have it best.
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