This is certainly true to an extent. Thing is, no Yankee fan is going to apologize for them having a zillion dollar payroll, and they shouldn't.
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This is certainly true to an extent. Thing is, no Yankee fan is going to apologize for them having a zillion dollar payroll, and they shouldn't.
That makes the Washington Generals fans the worst off, Poor guys.
The Artful Dodger
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As a Washington Generals fan, I have to say we won once and will do so again!
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Believe me, I have no preference for either team. Boston did well to turn it around after the last couple of miserable seasons, and the cards are just an elite organization from top to bottom.
But most teams can only dream of 150, and Boston has been near the top for the past several years.
Haha, at the end of the day, who cares.
Things that piss me off:
Yankee fans telling me that the Red Sox spend just as much as they do.
Red Sox fans telling me the Yankees just spend money.
Yankees are in another stratosphere when it comes to available money to spend, which is fine. It's them against everyone else in terms of potential payroll.
Yankee fans telling me that the Red Sox spend just as much as they do.
Red Sox fans telling me the Yankees just spend money.
Yankees are in another stratosphere when it comes to available money to spend, which is fine. It's them against everyone else in terms of potential payroll.
I think we can all agree to laugh together at the salaries the yanks have!
Yes, I'm sure all the other MLB teams feel bad for the Red Sox and the fact that they've averaged the third highest payroll in baseball over the last 5 years.
Look, it's fine. This isn't a complaint from me. The question was "how could anyone dislike the Red Sox?" And I'm giving some reasons. I could ask the same for the Cardinals, who are a team in a mid market that has just barely scratched the top third of payrolls over the last decade. But we're a consistently winning franchise that has decent money, so people will dislike them.
Dodgers will be up there for a while as well. Those damn TV deals!
HarryDemeanor
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It's not that teams feel bad, it's that comparing the two teams by their payroll rankings isn't telling the full story. Compare them by the actual payroll numbers and compare that difference to the other teams in the league.
I don't buy the Dodgers. Still imagine them in another embarrassing bankruptcy scenario soon. They're not the Lakers and never will be.
Yeah, LA is most likely going to take the top spot from the Yankees. Who would ever think that would happen?
The Red Sox are a Goliath of a team with a gigantic payroll. The Yankees are an even bigger Goliath. I don't think the Rays care very much that the Red Sox are "only" 6 times their payroll because the yankees are 9.
Again, it's fine. I'm not actually upset by it. The question was "how can anyone dislike the Red Sox?" I'm explaining the usual reasons. People dislike the Cardinals, too, and we're a mid market team with a notably smaller payroll than you who has won exactly as many world series as the Red Sox have in the last three decades.
King Tubby
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How come ESPN never talks about the Globetrotters though? More like BSPN
The Artful Dodger
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Fotheringay
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Networks are tripping over themselves to offer inflated TV deals right now. Sports are pretty much the only thing people don't DVR and watch later, allowing them to charge more for commercials. Dodgers and Lakers both have ridiculous TV deals.
The Devil Rays don't care much about anything in general.
They are a Goliath team that's very much in the same league as other Goliath teams like the Angels, Tigers, etc. relative to the Yankees, who have historically been all by themselves as a GOLIATH(?) team. That much money buys a lot of depth and you can't simply cluster them with other big market teams because they don't behave/spend like any other team in the league over the last however many years. Anytime any team beats the Yankees it should be celebrated because with that payroll they should beat anyone in the league.
Edit; I'm not upset either. It's just annoying to see the Red Sox/Yankees payroll comparison simply because they're always in the top-5 together without noting how big of a difference it normally is.
They're trying to build their team like them though!
I can tell you in no uncertain terms that the fans of smaller market teams don't typically see it from this position. From your relative position, yes, the Yankees are the bad guys because they're the only ones noticeably richer than you. From a team with less than a 90M payroll (i.e. more than half the league), you're all fat rich jerks and you aren't going to convince them that the Yankees are the only bad guys because they're super duper rich while you're only super rich.
Well, I imagine the Astros probably applaud the Yankees since they get to mooch all that luxury tax money the Yanks spend (and the Sox skirt), no?
Well, I imagine the Astros probably applaud the Yankees since they get to mooch all that luxury tax money the Yanks spend (and the Sox skirt), no?
And the Phillies I believe? And Dodgers. I can't remember off the top of my head anymore.
Nintendo has made a profit for like the two hundred years, the moneys coming soon bro!
Only because I just looked it up: Yanks, Sox, Angels and Tigers are the only teams to ever pay. And apparently that money isn't split between the teams, but rather put towards "$5 million is withheld to cover potential refunds, and is contributed to the Industry Growth Fund (IGF) if no refunds are forthcoming. The remaining money is divided as follows: 50% funds player benefits, 25% funds developing baseball in countries without high school baseball, and 25% goes to the IGF.", which I never knew. I always assumed it was split amongst the league.
Last post before i go. A little bias and
http://twitter.com/JennyDellNESN/status/394337867948101632/photo/1
Ump said he was "on the chalk" during the presser. Clearly wasnt
http://twitter.com/JennyDellNESN/status/394337867948101632/photo/1
Ump said he was "on the chalk" during the presser. Clearly wasnt
Only 8 teams are less then $80 million, and they are still all above 55 other then Miami and Houston. Baseball has kind of evened out with the payrolls other then the few top heavy teams. Hell 3 of the bottom 5 payrolls made the playoffs!
Fucking kidtendo made all that wii money and we never saw a lick of it! >:-( #boycottwiiu
Dominican Power
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Y'all should be grateful to The Yanquis.
Regardless of that you realize the difference between the foul line and the base path, right?
Yes, but it's still a pretty iffy call either way. They could have not called anything and the outcry would have been a fraction of what this call resulted in (instead of 'WTF are you doing with that shit throw Salty?!' it's 'WTF are you doing running on a gimp leg Craig?!' - both valid observations). I don't think it's necessarily a black/white thing since we often see umpires 'ignore' the black/white interpretation of the rule book - e.g. fielders skirting second base to make double plays, runners diving into second basemen way outside the basepath, runners going to first way inside the basepath, etc.
Well in that case why hate the Yankees? Payroll doesn't matter any more, and both the Cardinals and Red Sox have already won 1 more WS than the Yankees in the last decade!
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
No, this was an easy straight forward call. Honestly. He was right in the way, the guy tripped and would have scored otherwise. Things like the neighborhood play aren't even close to this. They got it right and the fault lies with the catcher entirely.
I laugh at the continued irrelevance of the Mariners. Free King Felix!
<3 you rando
Buncha ungrateful bastards I tell ya.
evil solrac v3.0
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we should all feel sorry for the red sox because they have to spend all that money to keep with the mean old rich Yankees. only reason the Red Sox haven't yet overpaid Ellsbury and Middlebrook and haven't have to hand out a victory lap tour contract to ortiz.
what wii U money?
evil solrac v3.0
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nah, it's fine.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Is DarkFlow new? I don't recall seeing him too much in past MLB threads.
Don't venture into the Tom Brady hate thread, tons of general Boston hate in there too. ;P
Or any sports thread that involves a Boston team really.
I would post every now and then, but its kinda hard sometimes to get into sports threads. People have little groups and tend to ignore you.
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RumblingRosco
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Just woke up and read the last 100-150 posts or so, I had a good laugh this morning at a couple of the more extreme ones.
Anyway, I enjoyed the game overall. The Cards need to not strand so many runners; the game should have ended as an 8-4 STL win after the top of the 9th, but we had to strand bases loaded with no outs in the 4th plus a few other issues with stranding runners sprinkled throughout the game. I also would have liked us to win by our own skill and no on a shitty throw by Salty who almost assuredly won't be starting tonight's game... meaning we've lost that avenue as a method to score.
I have to say, seeing Salty make the same bad throw that cost them the game in Game 2 is reminding me way too much of the 5 errors by Detroit's pitching staff in the 2006 WS. We won that series thanks largely to those errors... and I suspect we could win this series the same way. There was a fan in the stands at the 2006 WS with a sign that read "HIT IT TO THE PITCHER!" so we need to send out a "HIT IT TO ANYONE NEAR/BEHIND HOME PLATE" for this series if this madness keeps up.
Anyway, I enjoyed the game overall. The Cards need to not strand so many runners; the game should have ended as an 8-4 STL win after the top of the 9th, but we had to strand bases loaded with no outs in the 4th plus a few other issues with stranding runners sprinkled throughout the game. I also would have liked us to win by our own skill and no on a shitty throw by Salty who almost assuredly won't be starting tonight's game... meaning we've lost that avenue as a method to score.
I have to say, seeing Salty make the same bad throw that cost them the game in Game 2 is reminding me way too much of the 5 errors by Detroit's pitching staff in the 2006 WS. We won that series thanks largely to those errors... and I suspect we could win this series the same way. There was a fan in the stands at the 2006 WS with a sign that read "HIT IT TO THE PITCHER!" so we need to send out a "HIT IT TO ANYONE NEAR/BEHIND HOME PLATE" for this series if this madness keeps up.
I'm pretty sure that wasn't Salty who made the shitty throw in game 2. That was the pitcher, if I'm not mistaken.
RumblingRosco
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Sorry, I meant to say that his throw was the same bad throw/play the pitcher made in Game 2, not that Salty did it twice. Salty's throw was certainly better than the Game 2 throw, but it was still an overall similar scenario.
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