BigJonsson
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No, McGregor can replace Aldo and defend his belt
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broz0rs
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yeah, he got shook hard during this ordeal. He literally looked as if his entire life flashed before his eyes during the podcast.
It made me think is it really worth it to report stuff just to be first? I mean, if something is going to be revealed an hour later, why stick your neck out? It happens every time on Twitter, all these mma journalists seem to so much want to be the first one to break a news that we're all eventually going to know sooner than later. Some times it feels like people on YouTube where they're determined to leave the first comment on a new Taylor Swift video.
What are they going to do, ban him again?
Sweeney Tom
Banned
Yep.
They've already shown they can physically assault him and nobody will believe it or make it the important point of the topic, and can ban him and it'll only matter if it's talked about.
All they have to do is wait for the slightest slip up on a busy week and this can easily happen again, this time for good
Dana got Stockton slapped to get McGregor-Diaz 2 happen, he's not giving that up.
UFC 202 will have a bigger buy rate than 200.
parrotbeak
Member
Nah, UFC took the L on this. The bad PR eclipsed all the hype over 199 and 200. I'm not saying they will learn from this, but Ariel will keep doing his thing.
He hinted it got physical once and he learned not to go into the back room alone. He'll be smarter but as he explained on the MMA Hour, he's already been adjusting his practices around the UFC's bully tactics.
He hinted it got physical once and he learned not to go into the back room alone. He'll be smarter but as he explained on the MMA Hour, he's already been adjusting his practices around the UFC's bully tactics.
Who doesn't believe him?
Maklershed
Member
Lets consider though, this happened in a 4 day stretch where Mohammad Ali died, Bisping became a champion, and Brock announced his return and it was still pretty much the biggest story going.
-MD-
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there are other ways they can blackball him.
They could prevent any fighter or go after coaches for talking with him on his show or interviews.
Yeah, mentioned that here the other day. Behavior that sounds right down their alley, honestly. I guess we'll see.
BigJonsson
Member
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SF2J-lm7tc4
Today we learn Joe Rogan doesn't understand the role of a journalist and the definition of newsworthy.
Today we learn Joe Rogan doesn't understand the role of a journalist and the definition of newsworthy.
parrotbeak
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Rogan is a UFC employee. I'm not even going to listen to what he has to say about this.
That can reinforce their Independence from the sport and maybe it gives them a bigger platform to talk about the press or fighters organizing.
Does he ever directly smack talk Lorenzo/Dana? That's who made this decision.
"Rumors that Aldo is hurt and out of UFC 200 are not true. In fact, he is training right now."
I don't speak portuguese but apparently that's what that tweet says.
I don't speak portuguese but apparently that's what that tweet says.
ldcommando
Banned
it is
Spiderjericho
Member
Finally listened to this week's MMAHour. Man, it's heart breaking listening to him in tears. You can tell he is passionate about the sport.
His situation seems like it'll be on egg shells with the way Zuffa conducts itself. They seem to like money and Ariel has brought a lot of light and interest to the sport which only helps their bottom line. Glad he got his credentials back but it just seems like a tenuous situation here on out. It obviously came to the light but when Zuffa is side talking and begrudgingly giving him his credentials back, it's insane.
So sorry for the Ferguson family. My daughter had heart failure and had to get a heart transplant. I wish they could've caught the heart failure early in order to help him. His career would've been over but we would still have him today. Sad stuff.
His situation seems like it'll be on egg shells with the way Zuffa conducts itself. They seem to like money and Ariel has brought a lot of light and interest to the sport which only helps their bottom line. Glad he got his credentials back but it just seems like a tenuous situation here on out. It obviously came to the light but when Zuffa is side talking and begrudgingly giving him his credentials back, it's insane.
So sorry for the Ferguson family. My daughter had heart failure and had to get a heart transplant. I wish they could've caught the heart failure early in order to help him. His career would've been over but we would still have him today. Sad stuff.
ldcommando
Banned
Bork is going to be ready for Hunt... if you know what I mean...
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mma-c...522.html?soc_src=mediacontentstory&soc_trk=tw
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mma-c...522.html?soc_src=mediacontentstory&soc_trk=tw
I bet this was why Dana was upset.
They probably knew in April what would happen but announced it like this so Brock wouldn't get busted.
Mental Atrophy
Banned
Keep in mind that this just waives the four month requirement, otherwise Brock Lesnar wouldn't be able to fight until like UFC 203. He is still eligible to be tested in the month leading up to the fight, and will be tested by the athletic commission. None of this means he isn't or wasn't on PEDs, but USADA can't test a fighter that isn't on the UFC roster, and if Ariel's sources are accurate then the contract wasn't even finalized until UFC 199.
ldcommando
Banned
I know. I'm just curious to see how many of those "random" tests Brock is going to get before the event.
Spiderjericho
Member
So is he going to show up deflated like Vitor and Overeem?
I felt like he was bigger in the UFC prior to showing up to WWE.
I felt like he was bigger in the UFC prior to showing up to WWE.
juliushandle
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Yeah the drug testing thing is likely the real reason UFC was so pissed about Ariel's announcement. If the leak happened sooner, USADA might have been at Brock's door while he was watching UFC 199 asking him to piss in a cup.
If Brock was training since his last WWE appearance at Wrestlemania then he should have been tested.
Frankly the commission shouldn't let him fight with just 1 month of testing when traditionally 4 months are required.
That's why Dana denied it so much and frankly I'm positive that the WWE doesn't want the rest of the world knowing how shit their testing policy is.
They only put the drug testing into place because their talent started to kill their children.
Guys know when they are tested and results are almost never posted. Recently 3 people (1 for not getting to his door in time or something odd but he was released anyway) and the other 2 are the first violations in years to be publicly posted or suspended. One person was suspended after 10 years between violations.
All that needs to be said about the wwe is a head trainer, performer, and close friend to the VP of Talent was fired for an elevated TE ratio because he was doing a powerlifitng competition.
The testosterone/epitestosterone ratio allowed was 4-1
His was at 37-1.
http://www.f4wonline.com/wwe-news/billy-gunn-fired-wwe-ped-failure-201626
Mental Atrophy
Banned
Athletic commissions don't require four months. Four months is the UFC policy, which has a waiver clause for the kind of scenario Brock is in, so it's being used fairly. I would be very surprised if USADA doesn't test Brock, because their random test schedule isn't dictated by the UFC, otherwise you probably wouldn't see them testing guys like Jones and McGregor so often.
Maklershed
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Believe me - even if Brock gets tested before his fight (which is almost guaranteed not to happen) AND he pops, we wont find out about until July 10th at the earliest.
ldcommando
Banned
yep, there is no way this fight falls through, too much money involved.
The fighters are independent contractors though
And this wouldn't be like McGregor not fulfilling contracted duties, but people doing things they aren't banned from. 2 or 3 big names/draws go speak to Helwani and the UFC would back down.
I think Helwani may be a lot more careful in the future, but can also see the UFC going a bit more softly softly in the future due to the backlash.
Mental Atrophy
Banned
Brock was tested today. Somewhere in Las Vegas Dana and Lorenzo are crossing their fingers.
Brock has a TE ratio of 89-1
Ninja Scooter
Member
Work tested or shoot tested?
I heard USADA worked themselves into a shoot test.
Isn't it more of a stylistic matchup issue?
Didn't Stipe just take Hunt to the ground like Brock probably will?
I don't see Brock willing to fight standup for more than 20 seconds but who knows.
Personally I wish it was Josh Barnett if only for Billy Ray Robinson and Brad Rheingans stories.
Ninja Scooter
Member
I don't think Vegas is predicting a winner as much as they are predicting that a lot of casual gamblers are going to bet on Brock.
Bet $100 on Brock to win $167.
Bet $165 on Hunt to win $100.
Unless you're saying Hunt should be the overwhelming favorite instead of a slight favorite.
It's because he's a 42 year old with a weak ground game who is notorious for getting submitted in the first round every time he fought a grappler who didn't decide to stand with him. He also hasn't beaten a top fighter since his decision win over Rothwell years ago who was coming off a one year layoff and torn ACL
Lines are about right. If Brock was continuously training/fighting for the better half of the last two years, he'd be a huge favorite.
Ninja Scooter
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Are fights like that even worth betting on?
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