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golden boy was pretty awesome, the ladies were sexy as hell, but yea it's tame when compare to the manga (it's essentially a hentai manga), more anime characters needs to be like Kintaro (perverted but badass)
 
ColtraineGF said:
James Franco...:lol
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Shouta said:
Goldenboy's manga turns into shit, shame too since the premise is so great to start.
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you should start a thread about patlabor and bring back the good ol days where anime was good
 
hteng said:
you should start a thread about patlabor and bring back the good ol days where anime was good
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We should bring back the good old days before weeaboos introduced the word "anime" to languages other than Japanese.
 
shuri said:
I must say that I laughed at that youtube video with that dude screaming MUST STUDY!!!
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You should watch the whole series. There's only like six episodes, and every one is a classic.

And this is one of those shows where the dub is (imho) better than the sub. The english casting for Kintaro was brilliant.

(is veoh an allowed site?)
 
hteng said:
you should start a thread about patlabor and bring back the good ol days where anime was good
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There's an old school anime thread somewhere here that starts with an awesome trailer of old school anime. Then we weep.
 
GaimeGuy said:
I propose a new thread be made about taking the Kodomo no Jikan Challenge. The challenge is to watch all of Kodomo no Jikan, including the OVA. :lol
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I watched the first episode. Characters and dialogue were terrible. Unwatchable, and as for the loli gimmick, it seemed rather forced and awkward like everything else about the episode.
 
Branduil said:
Who doesn't?
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"[Thread Subject] sucks" is not a take.

I guess it increases your post count, so good job with that.
 
I was kidding.

Seriously though I'm not sure there's much worth in a "In my day, we had to mail some weirdo in Boston to watch anime, blah blah blah" thread.
 
Rur0ni said:
There's an old school anime thread somewhere here that starts with an awesome trailer of old school anime. Then we weep.
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wait what? there was? I've only recall a top 10 anime list of all time thread something of that nature back then.

Anime was never good.
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no u!
 
Branduil said:
I was kidding.

Seriously though I'm not sure there's much worth in a "In my day, we had to mail some weirdo in Boston to watch anime, blah blah blah" thread.
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I'll agree that nostalgia makes a lot of things seem better than they were.
 
The most recent (in terms of when it was produced) anime I actually found myself enjoying was BECK. I honestly cannot really get into any recent anime. I don't even know what it is. Could be my age, but I feel like the industry and what it produces has changed drastically for the worse, and has been in a sad state for several years.
 
I stopped watching animu right after I was done with Cowboy Bebop. Seems like I bailed out at the perfect moment.
 
My first anime was Akira, and the last series I watched was the Golgo-13 "remake". I actually don't know if its still running, because I got busy.

I remember when Anime was only available to me in small doses on television...I got to see Macross Plus and the Patlabor movies on this Canadian cartoon channel "teletoon". Seems like things have gone straight to hell in that industry now. How or why, I don't know, but I'm glad that I haven't actually watched any of these "lolicon" shows to taint my fond memories of badass anime.
 
Wrath2X said:
Probably.

And jett, I didn't take you as the anime watching type.
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That's because I haven't been one of those for nearly 10 years. :P I'll watch the Ghibli stuff and a movie here and there, but that's it. I don't waste my time with tv series.
 
jett said:
That's because I haven't been one of those for nearly 10 years. :P I'll watch the Ghibli stuff and a movie here and there, but that's it. I don't waste my time with tv series.
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Kind of the same here.

I'll watch some of the old good stuff, a couple of movies if their good, but thats probably it.
 
Truant said:
Cowboy Bepop is good. The rest is trash.
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Well that's not true. I'll give you that CB is the best, but you're missing out on a lot of notable animes from the 80s, 90s and early 00s.
 
Goldenboy is fucking awesome.

I would love to get the manga, but it doesn't appear to have been sold outside of Japan. Is this right? If so, that kinda sucks :(
 
Is there a link for the classic anime thread? I really want to see some more classic stuff. Golden Boy really rekindled it all..

Actually fuck, I still have GTO to watch. I only watched about 3 episodes.
 
Rur0ni said:
There's an old school anime thread somewhere here that starts with an awesome trailer of old school anime. Then we weep.
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No, then we track down some more awesome older shows.

Yeah, modern anime is 99% garbage...but the old stuff is still awesome. And thankfully, there's a lot of it out there.
 
Dabookerman said:
Is there a link for the classic anime thread? I really want to see some more classic stuff. Golden Boy really rekindled it all..

Actually fuck, I still have GTO to watch. I only watched about 3 episodes.
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yea I want to bookmark that.
 
SonicMegaDrive said:
No, then we track down some more awesome older shows.

Yeah, modern anime is 99% garbage...but the old stuff is still awesome. And thankfully, there's a lot of it out there.
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I just off the phone with a friend of mine - we were talking about this and he also listened to the podcast that egg linked to. He told me that the majority of the dubbers in mid decade wanted to get older anime ASAP.

The Japanese animator money counters (the Accountants) started to bitch that if such series like Lupin and the the like wernt making MONEY like they do in Japan, they wernt going to get it. The dubbers then stated how much we need to license and the Japanese Accountants and Lawyers wanted Disney like money before they could even pre-buy the tapes. So thats one of the reasons why they wanted TV deals, but the American/European Kids Companies said no way - you played us once AND your not Unionized plus you cant even find capital. On top of that debt, and the bad leadership and accounting all they can get is the moe series.

To give you an example - Denno Coil is in Bandai's hands but there as been NO word on when Bandai will ever dub the series. they want Disney like "promotion" for a 26 episode series and you have to sell merchandise where most of the money comes from. Since both Japan's and American Toy Industries are corrupted as hell, and you cant sell just tee shirts, and key chains forever - They have no choice to take what Japan gives them which right now is the Moe/Loli type series.

Trust me when I say the dubbers wanted Cobra, Guin Saga, Denno Coil, Golgo 13 before any of the other moe/loli series. They cant do it because the Japanese Businesses want bigger results.

There are some newer dubbers working on getting older anime that has passed through the cracks. They dont need funding for people who hate animation to make a living however.
 
Loli/Moe is certainly a part of it for me, but the major reason I stopped watching new anime is that it simply lacks the spirit and drive of the 80s and 90s. Back then, you really felt like the animators were actively trying to push the limits of what could be done in hand-drawn animation. How much detail they could cram into a single frame. How much lighting and shading they could add. More than anything, THAT'S what blew me away. It wasn't that some of the stories were clearly aimed at a mature audience, it was the sheer scope of the animation itself.

Things like animating an entire background by hand, whereas today it's all done on the computer. That stuff always blew me away, how in a dramatic fight scene the camera would actually swoop with the character's actions and every frame of background was painstakingly drawn to match (some better than others obviously). Clothing folded in a natural way, and attention was paid to changing light sources. Mechs felt like they could actually work because of the attention that was given to every cord, screw, or panel.

These days it feels like the exact opposite with the exception being Kyoto Animation on occasion (they're more about consistency than pushing barriers, but that works too). Most anime productions today seem to be actively trying to reduce details, to see how much they can get away with. It's really sad to see anime get lazier and lazier with each passing series.

Oh, and the loli, damn-near-hentai shit didn't help its case either. The entire anime market has fallen into the hands of the crazies and now that they're calling the shots, it's really hard to find the good stuff so I just stopped trying. I had better ways to waste my time.
 
Rlan said:
Outside of Ghost In The Shell: SAC, I too lost interest in Anime. I think my breaking point was going to an Anime convention and walking into one of the theatres playing anime, and this is what they were showing:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_My_Me!_Strawberry_Eggs
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It's actually an ok show. I didn't think it was good enough to bother watching more than the first three episodes, but there's far, far worse anime out there.
 
anotheriori said:
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If there was anything that is a great candidate for an anime showing this would be it. Found a cool podcast:
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This was one of the first series I got into back when I was into manga/anime. I still have a bunch Ranma Viz single issue manga in my closet (before they ever released the paperback book collections), including a few of their first run colorized ones. I wasn't as big a fan of the TV series (animation quality was kinda meh) but I really liked the OAVs and the two movies.
 
RurouniZel said:
Loli/Moe is certainly a part of it for me, but the major reason I stopped watching new anime is that it simply lacks the spirit and drive of the 80s and 90s. Back then, you really felt like the animators were actively trying to push the limits of what could be done in hand-drawn animation. How much detail they could cram into a single frame. How much lighting and shading they could add. More than anything, THAT'S what blew me away. It wasn't that some of the stories were clearly aimed at a mature audience, it was the sheer scope of the animation itself.

Things like animating an entire background by hand, whereas today it's all done on the computer. That stuff always blew me away, how in a dramatic fight scene the camera would actually swoop with the character's actions and every frame of background was painstakingly drawn to match (some better than others obviously). Clothing folded in a natural way, and attention was paid to changing light sources. Mechs felt like they could actually work because of the attention that was given to every cord, screw, or panel.

These days it feels like the exact opposite with the exception being Kyoto Animation on occasion (they're more about consistency than pushing barriers, but that works too). Most anime productions today seem to be actively trying to reduce details, to see how much they can get away with. It's really sad to see anime get lazier and lazier with each passing series.

Oh, and the loli, damn-near-hentai shit didn't help its case either. The entire anime market has fallen into the hands of the crazies and now that they're calling the shots, it's really hard to find the good stuff so I just stopped trying. I had better ways to waste my time.
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The Crazies gotta get scared into change... money does change everything...
 
Novid said:
I just off the phone with a friend of mine -
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Very interesting. There was also an interview with the owner from Rightstuf and he made a couple of comments about how hard it was to work with some of those Japanese anime companies.


RurouniZel said:
Loli/Moe is certainly a part of it for me, but the major reason I stopped watching new anime is that it simply lacks the spirit and drive of the 80s and 90s. Back then, you really felt like the animators were actively trying to push the limits of what could be done in hand-drawn animation. How much detail they could cram into a single frame. How much lighting and shading they could add. More than anything, THAT'S what blew me away. It wasn't that some of the stories were clearly aimed at a mature audience, it was the sheer scope of the animation itself.

Things like animating an entire background by hand, whereas today it's all done on the computer. That stuff always blew me away, how in a dramatic fight scene the camera would actually swoop with the character's actions and every frame of background was painstakingly drawn to match (some better than others obviously). Clothing folded in a natural way, and attention was paid to changing light sources. Mechs felt like they could actually work because of the attention that was given to every cord, screw, or panel.

These days it feels like the exact opposite with the exception being Kyoto Animation on occasion (they're more about consistency than pushing barriers, but that works too). Most anime productions today seem to be actively trying to reduce details, to see how much they can get away with. It's really sad to see anime get lazier and lazier with each passing series.

Oh, and the loli, damn-near-hentai shit didn't help its case either. The entire anime market has fallen into the hands of the crazies and now that they're calling the shots, it's really hard to find the good stuff so I just stopped trying. I had better ways to waste my time.
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There are still some really talented animators out there, though there definitely seem to be less and less and less(x2) of them each day. Not all that surprising after having read various articles about the state of the animation industry in Japan.

Norio Matsumoto is one of my favorites.
 
Witchfinder General said:
I just finished watching this the other day:


Lemme see:

*Hand drawn and painted
*Amazing, phenomenal art
*Stellar animation
*Plenty of "Kick arse" moments
*Character names, places and spells based on '80s Thrash Metal bands
*Violent and anti-social

Yeah, there's a reason why I prefer '80s and '90s anime/manga.

Can't stomach the modern junk.

Hey Japan, how about making anime for adults that isn't hentai?!
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Um, you do realize:

Dark Schneider raised the dark elf sorceress from when she was a little girl, and then had a relationship with her when she got older?

It's a great show, but it has its hentai moments aplenty.

Calcaneus said:
They need to make more anime with international audiences in mind, or at least non-otaku in mind. Stuff like Cowboy Bebop is universal, anyone can like it without feeling embarrassed.. Same can't be said for moe.
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Anyone can like Cowboy Bebop without feeling embarrassed? You have seen Faye Valentine's outfit, haven't you?

a Master Ninja said:
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sogood.gif?
 
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