Moé/Lolicon
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lunarworks
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The craptastic, "retro" animation of episode 4 (I think that's the number) caused it. I hadn't heard the meltdown was the catalyst for the bathhouse fan service episode, but I guess that may explain it.Son of Godzilla said:
Halycon said:
Henry fights a loli moéblob with robotic arms in NMH2.
http://remoon.blog15.fc2.com/blog-entry-10335.html
lunarworks said:
One of the biggest boons to Anime production these days is the ability to air a mostly finished product, then go back and finish touching up or reanimating certain scenes, without having to do major production changes. Some tv episodes have 3 versions by the time they hit DVD/BD, a first airing version, a multiple-airing version (repeats or rebroadcasts), and a DVD/BD version.
... it also is terrible, since you never really know what might get changed later on. It's entirely possible that some crappy animation stays crappy on the DVD/BD release.
Oh, and you can re-use portions of a scene with relative ease. Want to re-use that background in a later episode? No need to dig it up to shoot with your new scene, just drop in the existing scanned background. Or, do you use the exact same animation several times over different backgrounds or environment scenes? Copy/pasta!
haha, no.SonicMegaDrive said:
pretty much, its also surprisingly period accurate.Extollere said:
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Recent anime I watched that I really liked:
-Gantz
-Toradora
-Kannagi
-Claymore
Being kannagi with the most lolicon content, I find it really good and funny, don't know what's the fuxxxx, really, saying that lolicon ruined the anime industry is a bit of hyperbole.
Apart from that I haven't seen anything that appeals to me and I rare listen to recomendations, but those are GREAT.
I started Gurren-Lagan but after 6 episodes didn't see anythig that really stands out, some funny moments here and there, action scenes here and there, anyway, I'll probably finish watching it on my phone on the way to work/home.
-Gantz
-Toradora
-Kannagi
-Claymore
Being kannagi with the most lolicon content, I find it really good and funny, don't know what's the fuxxxx, really, saying that lolicon ruined the anime industry is a bit of hyperbole.
Apart from that I haven't seen anything that appeals to me and I rare listen to recomendations, but those are GREAT.
I started Gurren-Lagan but after 6 episodes didn't see anythig that really stands out, some funny moments here and there, action scenes here and there, anyway, I'll probably finish watching it on my phone on the way to work/home.
lunarworks
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Yep, they've adopted the software industry's habit of rushing it to market and then patching it. I hope this doesn't encourage too much sloppiness. However, over here, South Park makes great use of it to keep the show timely.Fireye said:
That, and scenes can have all sorts of background activity and environmental effects without the associated logistical nightmares of traditional animation. It's nice, but it's also a good thing that some directors still believe in minimalism.Fireye said:
klausbert said:
Its almost the same in the US. Partly because of the CTA, partly because of the Animators Union (and their defeatist) attiude and partly because all the good writers left for greener pastures over at the WGA. Therefore what happens? Majorty of the shows since 90' has been based in Middle/High school. Guess which series in US animation became successful? The ones that have no connection to School. Same with the Anime (outside of Sailor Moon). Why Spongebob still does well?
That being said, Over at Gamefaqs the other day (what I still go there? For the Lulz of course) I posted some stuff over at the "House of Starks" (the bum) stating Bayonetta should be one (read ONE) of the archtypes one should use if your going to create a female in the animu realm. Of course - I get shot down for being a troll. Really?
But over at the PS3 Board for Bayonetta there was some guy who works in that Media Industry over there (says hes Half Japanese/British - worked in the J-Music industry for 2 some years) and he stated some things about the whole Moe thing that rang so true. So i give him his props.
Next thing you know - its baletted.
Its too fucking Ironic.
This is why I really have not watched a series produced in the past 6 years?shintoki said:17 years old
Early 2000s and anything from the late 80s to 90s is pretty much awesome.missbreedsiddx said:
Iria Zeiram is a great example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jx00D8dFj0k
Oh and:
Red Scarlet
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I bailed out around 2000 or so..last show I was going to get was Excel Saga, whenever that came out.
Crash Station
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You know this thread really has reminded me how rare good original anime not based off manga is. Gurren Lagann is the last one I thought was amazing and Code Geass is the last one I thought was good. I hope it gets better soon.
lunarworks
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I saw an amazing fansub of one of the Dr. Slump movies in the mid '90s. It was a shit quality 3rd or 4th generation VHS, but I was laughing so hard. Haven't been able to track it down, at all, since.rpmurphy said:
cosmicblizzard said:
There is a new studio started up late 2008 that is dealing with Originals, BUT GUESS WHICH Style they chose to start with? :lol :lol
Dr Slump i loved the consept but never read the manga. Did see that VHS and while much of it is funny, i never caught on with it.
As for that Manga piece... is that from the Legend Of Kozumi?
vas_a_morir
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I bailed out in early 2008. Just, nothing that interesting has come out. I was really spoiled by 2007, I thought it was going to get better. I was wrong. I haven't followed a series online in a long time. Last show I watched to completion was the second season of Zetsubou Sensei.
Do love manga, though.
It's a lot less obnoxious.
Do love manga, though.
It's a lot less obnoxious.
SonicMegaDrive
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vas_a_morir said:I bailed out in early 2008. Just, nothing that interesting has come out. I was really spoiled by 2007, I thought it was going to get better. I was wrong. I haven't followed a series online in a long time. Last show I watched to completion was the second season of Zetsubou Sensei.
Do love manga, though.
Lum!!
What has happened to your face!
vas_a_morir
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SonicMegaDrive said:
Dwayne Wade can fly, brother.
Slightly Live
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Don't worry anime fans, Black Lagoon season 3 is coming. There is still hope.
I have a huge game/manga/novel/tv series backlog. I only watched berzerk last year and still have yet to read the manga.
I guess I'm less frustrated because I have a lot of good shit left to watch. But, I saw old crap I didn't like. There has to be something worthwhile in the past year.
I guess I'm less frustrated because I have a lot of good shit left to watch. But, I saw old crap I didn't like. There has to be something worthwhile in the past year.
Not a big fan of that either (see Shin-chan). If the original meaning is lost, they might as well just make a new show instead. I'm curious though as to how the existing dubs did it, since I don't speak those languages. Does wordplay take a major role in comedy moreso for non-English languages? Can it be compared to that of e.g. Chinese or Japanese?Magypsy23 said:
donkey show
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Hey! There's nothing wrong with that.Halycon said:
>__>
anyone who likes bubblegum Crisis should feel ashamed of himself. That is the definition of not so good Anime.
Bubblegum Crisis = Shenmue of the Anime world?
but that won't shut up many of the peoples who enjoy complaining about Animes these days :/
Bubblegum Crisis = Shenmue of the Anime world?
hell yeah, dude.Dani said:
but that won't shut up many of the peoples who enjoy complaining about Animes these days :/
viewtifulsub
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Monster was the last anime series i watched and enjoyed.
From that point i switched over to manga and havent looked back.
After seeing that Season 09/10 anime roster, glad i made that decision.
From that point i switched over to manga and havent looked back.
After seeing that Season 09/10 anime roster, glad i made that decision.
I have very high level of difficulty getting into anime precisely because of shit like this. I also have a problem with the writing of most anime, the obsession with giant robots and POWERLEVELSMAGICBLASTSTOYOURFACE. But loli/moe is definitely the most offensive thing of all. People tell me to understand the differences between American culture and Japanese culture, but I draw a certain line in places. This is one of those lines. FUCK cultural differences when it comes to lolicon/moe. Japan needs to man the fuck up on this shit.
The last anime I enjoyed thoroughly was Seirei no Moribito. It contains almost none of the stuff I hate in anime, it's also a joy to watch. My favorite thing about anime has always been the art, mainly the intensively detailed backgrounds. It's quite impressive to someone like me who loves art. Most moe/loli doesn't even have this aspect to be fond of.
Besides the implied endorsement of pedophile basement dwellers, it's simply offensive as a rule and I genuinely look down on any and all people who actually enjoy that sort of thing. I don't find it bad at all to say I know I'm better than those people.
Stuff like...
Monster
Seirei No Moribito
Hajime No Ippo
Samurai Champloo
Gankutsuou
All Studio Ghibli Works
Black Lagoon
This is the stuff I like. So little of it left.
The last anime I enjoyed thoroughly was Seirei no Moribito. It contains almost none of the stuff I hate in anime, it's also a joy to watch. My favorite thing about anime has always been the art, mainly the intensively detailed backgrounds. It's quite impressive to someone like me who loves art. Most moe/loli doesn't even have this aspect to be fond of.
Besides the implied endorsement of pedophile basement dwellers, it's simply offensive as a rule and I genuinely look down on any and all people who actually enjoy that sort of thing. I don't find it bad at all to say I know I'm better than those people.
Stuff like...
Monster
Seirei No Moribito
Hajime No Ippo
Samurai Champloo
Gankutsuou
All Studio Ghibli Works
Black Lagoon
This is the stuff I like. So little of it left.
The Frankman
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YES! C'mon people, nothing says "I am secure about my anime fandom" than Dwyane Wade-ifyng up your avatars! DO IT! NOW!vas_a_morir said:
donkey show, Helion, Amirox, Shouta can I put you down for some Dwyane Wade action?
SonicMegaDrive
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faridmon said:
I like Bubblegum Crisis.
Decent-good animation, AWESOME music, interesting stories, cyberpunk setting, loads of gratuitous violence...what's not to like? The first few episodes were darker in tone than the later ones(a sign of the 80's switching over into the 90's), but besides that minor qualm, I like the show a lot.
Well, the original at least. I'm not a big fan of the remake from the late 90's.
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sprsk said:
I've been digging through old threads lately.
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Decado said:
While Holo could be seen as a "moe" character. For me the whole "moe" thing has much more to do with the content of the show, and not just the design of the characters.
Would anyone really argue that Kino's Journey, or shows from Yoshitoshi ABe like Lain or Haibane Renmei are "moe", and should be grouped in the like with say the many "moe" shows of the past few years like Lucky Star? Some shows, while they have the "moe" like character designs do not use that design as pandering to fans and it not the focus or intent of the show.
Alex
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I liked the first half of Death Note and I'll watch whatever new Ippo episodes they come out with, but I mostly just dont bother.
Gurren Lagaan (sp) is a little too batty for me. too fanservicey too.
I considered watching the new Fullmetal Alchemist stuff, but I kind of dont really want to go through all of it again since its a reboot. Plus, with how silly anime can be, they'll probably reboot it, get right back to where it was, then stop again.
I'd watch a Yotsuba anime if they'd animate that. I don't think that counts as loli though, at least not anymore so than Calvin and Hobbes counts as ... the opposite of loli.
I'm not really so much interested in new shit as much as I'd like to see the old shit I liked in the first place finished. Why does this so rarely happen?
Gurren Lagaan (sp) is a little too batty for me. too fanservicey too.
I considered watching the new Fullmetal Alchemist stuff, but I kind of dont really want to go through all of it again since its a reboot. Plus, with how silly anime can be, they'll probably reboot it, get right back to where it was, then stop again.
I'd watch a Yotsuba anime if they'd animate that. I don't think that counts as loli though, at least not anymore so than Calvin and Hobbes counts as ... the opposite of loli.
I'm not really so much interested in new shit as much as I'd like to see the old shit I liked in the first place finished. Why does this so rarely happen?
I think the most recent anime I watched was Code Geass, the 1st season was cool but the 2nd season was "wtf is this shit". That black chick in a bikini, ass shots of Karen and the shit was just too much and since then I've stopped following new series. I've been reading up on old manga and old anime like the Gundam movie trilogy which I loved and Char's Counterattack which drove me up a wall.
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I was never a huge fan of anime, but I enjoyed some earlier shows like Dragon Ball, Dr. Slump, some of the older Gundam series, City Hunter, and some other ones. I don't think I have been anything but disgusted of anime shows that have been produced post-2000. The horrifying loli / moe / otaku culture that surrounds the medium now makes it completely unnapproachable for anyone who doesn't want to jump in the circle jerk that the industry seems to be partaking in. I pretty much just avoid it all entirely. I'll still watch the latest Ghibli film, but I don't really consider that anime.
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