kirbutashi
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Really enjoy your courses, Ragnarok. Just wish you'd open them up for viewing in the track editor. 
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ModNation Racers |OT| Loading, Moaning And Creating Vinyl Clothing
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This morning it occurred to me that breadcrumb trails can cross over each, including in opposite directions
I've had fun doing all manner of twisted things - the hard part now is figuring how to convince the AI drivers to stop trying to drive down the normal part of the track (and just running straight into the barriers I put up to prevent them doing so
It's also too bad you can't pave breadcrumb trails to make them look like regular track... unless you're going for that off-road look of course.
I've had fun doing all manner of twisted things - the hard part now is figuring how to convince the AI drivers to stop trying to drive down the normal part of the track (and just running straight into the barriers I put up to prevent them doing so
It's also too bad you can't pave breadcrumb trails to make them look like regular track... unless you're going for that off-road look of course.
AI never really cheated. Being in 1st means there are 11 other racers behind you using weapons....hard to block all those.Decado said:I thought the difficulty was a symptom of cheating AI? Adding a new mode doesn't effect that
I finished all the SP stuff before the patch. Somethng to brag about I guess.
UFG today confirmed IGN's report that the patch will hit on the 4th. It will go live at 2AM PST on Wednesday.
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2010...1-02-releases-august-4th-brings-improvements/
Also, one of my tracks, Gardens of Deception, will be featured in the Hot Lap on Sunday
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2010...1-02-releases-august-4th-brings-improvements/
Modnation Monday said:
Also, one of my tracks, Gardens of Deception, will be featured in the Hot Lap on Sunday
I bought this game on Friday, I wasn't so sure of it at the start - i enjoyed the drifting but something seemed off with the rest of the handling. Anyway a few days later and I'm used to the handling, in fact i really like it.
I really think that have a solid base for a great racer here, but at times I find the controls a bit too complex for a kart racer. A button for drifting, one for boost, one for shields one for weapons and one for triggers is quite complex, especially for kids (not to mention stunts and side swiping). I know BLUR or MK get away with having boost as one of your items, and obviously with time you get used to it, but I'm sure there is some way they could have simplified it. or at lest let us change the layout.
Also what's the rule for losing weapons when you get hit? sometimes i seem to lose them all and others I just go down a level.
I really think that have a solid base for a great racer here, but at times I find the controls a bit too complex for a kart racer. A button for drifting, one for boost, one for shields one for weapons and one for triggers is quite complex, especially for kids (not to mention stunts and side swiping). I know BLUR or MK get away with having boost as one of your items, and obviously with time you get used to it, but I'm sure there is some way they could have simplified it. or at lest let us change the layout.
Also what's the rule for losing weapons when you get hit? sometimes i seem to lose them all and others I just go down a level.
James-Ape said:
I don't remember the rules, I haven't played the game for a little bit as I've been catching up with my backlog of games. I may be able to answer this question tomorrow =]
As for the controls, all it takes is time to learn. That's what I love about this game. It's one of those where you must take the time to refine your skills and get better and better. It took me 5+ races to master the controls in the demo (which I did about 30 races :lol ).
It ridiculous how over looked this game is and may be the rest of the year. It is really one of the best multiplayer games out right now..
It is a very enjoyable game, and i don't mind there being more of a depth to it than just managing weapons, but i do think they could have simplified the controls somehow. Its a bit of a barrier.
I also have and issue with losing weapons for being hit, not only do I potentially lose boost for mistiming a shield but I lose weapons (as well as losing speed) it seems like you are being overly punished.
I also have and issue with losing weapons for being hit, not only do I potentially lose boost for mistiming a shield but I lose weapons (as well as losing speed) it seems like you are being overly punished.
ConradCervantes
Banned
Patch is up, 131 MB. Downloading now.
Will let you guys know. Testing now.
Edit: I fucking love automatic download!
Edit2: You can skip the intros.
Edit 3: Slightly faster load into the ModSpot.
Edit 4: Got my star Creator trophy!!!! :lol
Edit 5: How the hell did I reach 603,708 Create XP... lol
Edit 6: ModNation Superstar!!!!
Edit 7: Load times are definitely faster.... I'd say a good 30-40% increase in performance. Loading into career and out back into the selection UI is a lot quicker as well.
Edit: I fucking love automatic download!
Edit2: You can skip the intros.
Edit 3: Slightly faster load into the ModSpot.
Edit 4: Got my star Creator trophy!!!! :lol
Edit 5: How the hell did I reach 603,708 Create XP... lol
Edit 6: ModNation Superstar!!!!
Edit 7: Load times are definitely faster.... I'd say a good 30-40% increase in performance. Loading into career and out back into the selection UI is a lot quicker as well.
expy said:Will let you guys know. Testing now.
Edit: I fucking love automatic download!
Edit2: You can skip the intros.
Edit 3: Slightly faster load into the ModSpot.
Edit 4: Got my star Creator trophy!!!! :lol
Edit 5: How the hell did I reach 603,708 Create XP... lol
Edit 6: ModNation Superstar!!!!
Edit 7: Load times are definitely faster.... I'd say a good 30-40% increase in performance. Loading into career and out back into the selection UI is a lot quicker as well.
Thank you for the update....Ill tell my kids that its safe to play again without the awful load times....:lol
Davidion said:
Copied from IGN:
The Initial Load after Choosing the Game at the XMB
Pre-Patch: 1 minute
Post-Patch: 54 seconds
From the Green Start Screen to ModSpot
Pre-Patch: 28 seconds
Post-Patch: 31 seconds
Loading Creation Station
Pre-Patch: 20 seconds
Post-Patch: 14 seconds
Load out of Creation Station
Pre-Patch: 24 seconds
Post-Patch: 28 seconds
Load into Online XP Race
Pre-Patch: 41 seconds
Post-Patch: 31 seconds
Load out of Online XP Race
Pre-Patch: 21 seconds
Post-Patch: 9 seconds
Loading Single-Player Crazy Crater Finale
Pre-Patch: 55 seconds
Post-Patch: 40 seconds
Source: http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/111/1110438p1.html
Ninja Moomin
Banned
i don't see any difference in casual mode for the campaign... i guess i just still suck.
however i have started a new track...
questions:
how do i split the track - that is, create gaps in it... i want to make a staircase of platforms you drop down with sheer drops in between?
can anyone confirm if the criteria for star creator have changed?
however i have started a new track...
questions:
how do i split the track - that is, create gaps in it... i want to make a staircase of platforms you drop down with sheer drops in between?
can anyone confirm if the criteria for star creator have changed?
snap0212 said:
Holy shit thats unreal. I guess I'll be skipping the game. They need to improve the code of the game, or offer an install, or something, because those numbers are absolutely whack.
Speaking of whack, its pretty sad when a kiddy looking Kart Racer's rules are so complex that grown men can't understand them.
ConradCervantes
Banned
Yeah, consider me unimpressed. I wasn't expecting seamless loading or anything, but things still feel the same with regards to loading times. It'll do I guess.
BoilersFan23
Member
The game already is installed. What hurts load times (kind of like with LBP) is the game constantly streaming with the network. If you weren't fully integrated, it would probably help a bit.thuway said:
Still, MNR is a fantastic game and shouldn't be avoided even if loading is longer than many games.
BoilersFan23 said:
I'm a fan of Party-four-player- Kart Racers. My favorite being Crash Team Racing followed by Mario Kart 64 (or DS). I was hyped for this game because the PS3 severely lacked 4 player co-op casual titles. (Minus LBP)
MNR has one too many esoteric and complex rules that make it a headscratcher among headscratchers. Sony is trying to branch out to a more casual and mainstream audience with titles like this, not the most hardcore of hardcore. I play Gran Turismo, and I've had a long history with Kart Racers, yet I still can't wrap my head around Mod Nation.
On top of complexity, they have absurdly long load times. I'm hoping the patch is nicer than what IGN claims, and I'm hoping United Front is looking at the eventual sequel with a curious eye. Games in this genre, moreso than any other genre are made to be easy pick-up and play.
Which rules are you referring to? It does take a few dozen races to get perfectly accustomed to the controls, but that's about it. And well, practice DOES make perfect in this game.thuway said:
The difficulty level was up there at first, but granted, it did make me a pretty good racer, I consistently finish 1st in XP races no matter who I'm racing against. I finished the career with all challenges complete before I headed into the online arena though.
I did say perfectly. lolDoctorWho said:
After like 5 races, I pretty much got the jist of what was going on... Wasn't until later where I completely got everything down to a science, I could wait until the very last moment to pop a shield to protect against a level 3 missile attack (even if it was spaced out).
DoctorWho said:
Eh, the core mechanics are easy enough that if you buy it as a casual gamer and play through the campaign stuff, you'll be fine because the difficulty ramps up accordingly. All of the initial tracks are crafted to hone your skills in particular areas, and a lot of that is "lost" on people who are more skilled when it comes to gaming.
The only time a casual gamer would feel truly frustrated with the game would be if they immediately went online against players who have been honing their skills for months. Against the computer, however, they teach you all the skills you need, and the tracks begin to change to perfect certain skill sets gradually.
Nothing here it too 'daunting' or challenging for casual gamers. It's easily accessible.
thuway said:
Mario Kart, just like ModNation Racers, has a steep curve for "perfect" and "beginner". The reason it sells 10 million copies is because it's Mario, not because people find it easy. It's a fun Mario game. If ModNation racers were a perfect Mario Kart clone, it wouldn't sell the same. It's not Mario. Don't be blind.
fuck you guys that can't handle an easy learning curve, seriously. We finally get a kart racer that's very deep and strategic and all you can do is find things to complain about like its inaccessibility. When I was like 10, I first had to learn how to play smash bros. I ended up becoming great after constantly playing over and over. The more I learned, the most fun the game became. Stop comparing this to Mario Kart. Because this game, MK has some catching up to do in many areas.
RockmanWhore
Member
I just downloaded the patch, the loading are much better. But they're still way too long
Also, is it me or did they improve the framerate too? I haven't played it for weeks, and it seems like the game is a little bit smoother than it used to be.
Also, is it me or did they improve the framerate too? I haven't played it for weeks, and it seems like the game is a little bit smoother than it used to be.
AgentOtaku
Member
So how is the "Casual" difficulty?
I had heard prepatch that this got Blur brutal as far as SP is concerned. Does this still hold true?
I had heard prepatch that this got Blur brutal as far as SP is concerned. Does this still hold true?
AgentOtaku said:
I'm sorry, but the casual difficulty is BS. I just started playing this game 2 days ago cause I heard the patch came out last week.
I decided to play the game on casual after hearing how brutal it is. Well...rubberband is still there, and the AI is still just as insane and cheap as I've heard. I even switched to Expert to see the difference and there was none.
What the fuck was the point in introducing "Casual" difficulty when it doesn't even play any different?
Seriously...I get the main enjoyment out of playing online but United Front Games better fix it in the next game or at least with another patch. Career just...isn't fun with all the BS rubberbanding.
Damn, this game is pretty tough. Although I didn't know there was a casual difficulty until reading this thread just now.
I'm on the last race of the 3rd circuit I think? I've actually had to settle for 3rd or 2nd in a few races because despite repeated attempts, I kept not being able to get first. And I've never had a problem getting 1st in any Mario Kart game, although if I get blue shelled at an inopportune time it might take a retry.
I guess some people like the difficulty?, but I feel like I'm losing because the controls aren't nearly as good as Mario Kart's. They're just too loose for me, but maybe I need more time to get familiar with it.
I dislike the weapon system so far. How is this an improvement in anyway over what Mario Kart does? There's more blue shells, and blocking is harder. But that might be because I suck ass with the shield. I still haven't gotten the timing right I suppose, although sometimes, like with rockets, I pop the shield at the right time to avoid the first several, but inevitably my shield runs out before they are done.
But the load times. Oh god the load times. Assuming the patch actually did decrease them (which I guess is questionable?), I can't even imagine how bad they were before hand. I'm renting the game, but if a friend asked me if I should get it, I would give him a big HELL NO until they fix these load times.
I'm on the last race of the 3rd circuit I think? I've actually had to settle for 3rd or 2nd in a few races because despite repeated attempts, I kept not being able to get first. And I've never had a problem getting 1st in any Mario Kart game, although if I get blue shelled at an inopportune time it might take a retry.
I guess some people like the difficulty?, but I feel like I'm losing because the controls aren't nearly as good as Mario Kart's. They're just too loose for me, but maybe I need more time to get familiar with it.
I dislike the weapon system so far. How is this an improvement in anyway over what Mario Kart does? There's more blue shells, and blocking is harder. But that might be because I suck ass with the shield. I still haven't gotten the timing right I suppose, although sometimes, like with rockets, I pop the shield at the right time to avoid the first several, but inevitably my shield runs out before they are done.
But the load times. Oh god the load times. Assuming the patch actually did decrease them (which I guess is questionable?), I can't even imagine how bad they were before hand. I'm renting the game, but if a friend asked me if I should get it, I would give him a big HELL NO until they fix these load times.