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Monitoring the situation in Iran

EviLore

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Major events taking place right now in Iran. Protests around the country. Protesters being shot. Police defecting. Supreme Leader Khamenei reportedly plans to flee the country if the situation gets any worse. Attempt at bribing the population with a $7 payout.

Thread made available for a while to monitor latest happenings.
 
A reminder of what Iran was.

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Vintage Photos Capture Everyday Life in Iran Before the Islamic Revolution, 1960s-1970s - Rare Historical Photos

This extended photo collection shows Iranian society prior to the 1979 Islamic Revolution and, it’s obvious that Iran was a very different world.
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I had a friend growing up who's family GTFO'd from Iran in the 80's. He told me stories about living there and my young mind couldn't comprehend how life could be so different. Felt like the dude was telling me about some weird sci-fi world. Women had to hide their hair and other such oppressive shit. And this was back when I didn't know what a fucking hijab or muslim was.
 
As much as I want otherwise, we've been here before. This will be quelled in some time.
I think we on the outside underestimate how much support the regime still has, mainly from religious ones.
 
Remove the big counterweight to the Saudis in the muslim world, hard to imagine what that will look like. Will they stop their race to extremism to "out-islam" each other and finally start to get with the rest of us or will an even more extreme system move in?
 
kittoo said:
As much as I want otherwise, we've been here before. This will be quelled in some time.
I think we on the outside underestimate how much support the regime still has, mainly from religious ones.
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I agree but there seems to be a convergence of factors not present in the other demonstrations, their economy is proper fucked, they're running out of water and the regime is looking to move the capital city, add in all the other factors and hopefully the Iranian's have had enough, but by fuck a lot of them will die unfortunately for it to proper kick off, no doubt the Assad's are giddy at a potential new neighbour...
 
The problem with all these situations is how do you transition to something better? You either have a popular uprising and some populist leader emerges as the figurehead and ultimately leader of the new regime - and we know how that tends to work out. Or you have a military backed coup with some brutal military leader who immediately turns to suppressing the populace with force.
 
falconhoof said:
A reminder of what Iran was.

rarehistoricalphotos.com

Vintage Photos Capture Everyday Life in Iran Before the Islamic Revolution, 1960s-1970s - Rare Historical Photos

This extended photo collection shows Iranian society prior to the 1979 Islamic Revolution and, it’s obvious that Iran was a very different world.
rarehistoricalphotos.com rarehistoricalphotos.com

I had a friend growing up who's family GTFO'd from Iran in the 80's. He told me stories about living there and my young mind couldn't comprehend how life could be so different. Felt like the dude was telling me about some weird sci-fi world. Women had to hide their hair and other such oppressive shit. And this was back when I didn't know what a fucking hijab or muslim was.
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Problem there was that the wealth gap and corruption was huge, but the foundation for the revolution was built on pillars of sand.
 
falconhoof said:
A reminder of what Iran was.

rarehistoricalphotos.com

Vintage Photos Capture Everyday Life in Iran Before the Islamic Revolution, 1960s-1970s - Rare Historical Photos

This extended photo collection shows Iranian society prior to the 1979 Islamic Revolution and, it’s obvious that Iran was a very different world.
rarehistoricalphotos.com rarehistoricalphotos.com

I had a friend growing up who's family GTFO'd from Iran in the 80's. He told me stories about living there and my young mind couldn't comprehend how life could be so different. Felt like the dude was telling me about some weird sci-fi world. Women had to hide their hair and other such oppressive shit. And this was back when I didn't know what a fucking hijab or muslim was.
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Iran had ordered 2 Concord, but the revolution stopped them from ever buying and flying them.
 
poppabk said:
The problem with all these situations is how do you transition to something better? You either have a popular uprising and some populist leader emerges as the figurehead and ultimately leader of the new regime - and we know how that tends to work out. Or you have a military backed coup with some brutal military leader who immediately turns to suppressing the populace with force.
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If they do manage to overthrow the regime, I doubt it, first thing they should do is round up all those religious police and fast track them on their way to Allah, that regime is proper evil
 
A bit more info and context on it. It's also $7 per month. And it lasts for 4 months. Going by below, looks like eggs are dirt cheap in Iran. 100 for $7 US? Eggs here are about $5 CDN for 12.


The monthly payment would cover the equivalent of around 100 eggs, a kilogram of red meat, or a few kilograms of rice or chicken at current prices in Iran. The payments will be handed out to 80 million Iranians, the vast majority of the population, according to the labor minister.


"Individuals can receive an amount equivalent to one million Tomans (approximately $7) per person per month, which is credited to their accounts for four months," government spokeswoman Fatemeh MoHajjerani told state TV.
 
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Obviously anecdotal but I've yet to come across Persian person I didn't like or grudgingly respect.

One of my closest friends is Persian, and he and his wife have been waiting a very long time for this moment.

I once invited him to lunch with my team at work, where he ended up in a very public argument with one of my directors - who is also Persian. Anyway our lunch talk started to gravitate towards Iran as they both still had family there. My friend argued that Iran cannot be fixed or saved without violent revolution. She pushed back, insisting that change could still be achieved peacefully, and accused him of being bloodthirsty.

Anyway I hope they finally manage to topple these bastards and win back the country.
 
StreetsofBeige said:
A bit more info and context on it. It's also $7 per month. And it lasts for 4 months. Going by below, looks like eggs are dirt cheap in Iran. 100 for $7 US? Eggs here are about $5 CDN for 12.
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Do you think the cost of food will stay the same if everyone in the country can suddenly afford 100 eggs per month?

Feels a bit like our COVID stimulus stuff here in the US - we got a couple of checks in the mail for a few hundred bucks each, and suddenly "cheap" things got less cheap (fast food, low-end groceries) and never went back down. We had politicians come out even years later with statements like "Everyone's still living on those COVID stimulus checks and doesn't want to work", like we had all really been subsisting on $800 total for the last few years (my wife and I's COVID stimulus together didn't even cover our rent that month).

This also has shades of UBI - give everyone enough money to live off of and all it does is drives up the cost of living. Every time.

My advice: beware of governments giving gifts.
 
Lord Panda said:
Obviously anecdotal but I've yet to come across Persian person I didn't like or grudgingly respect.

One of my closest friends is Persian, and he and his wife have been waiting a very long time for this moment.

I once invited him to lunch with my team at work, where he ended up in a very public argument with one of my directors - who is also Persian. Anyway our lunch talk started to gravitate towards Iran as they both still had family there. My friend argued that Iran cannot be fixed or saved without violent revolution. She pushed back, insisting that change could still be achieved peacefully, and accused him of being bloodthirsty.

Anyway I hope they finally manage to topple these bastards and win back the country.
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Never had an issue with middle eastern people either.

Unless they are secretly morons when they get home from work or behind closed doors at mosques, I've never worked with a middle easter person or bought food from a middle eastern restaurant where the people werent genuinely chill good people. If anything they are extra pleasant to work with and you order those meat platters with rice and bread and it's fucking giant amount of food for $15.

Lots of giant rich mosques going up my area. Ok, sometimes that street can be packed with cars if you drive by at the wrong time, but I've never seen any crazy mobs, protests, or anti-semite stuff. Those kinds of issues seem to only hit certain Muslim areas of the world.
 
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jshackles said:
Do you think the cost of food will stay the same if everyone in the country can suddenly afford 100 eggs per month?

Feels a bit like our COVID stimulus stuff here in the US - we got a couple of checks in the mail for a few hundred bucks each, and suddenly "cheap" things got less cheap (fast food, low-end groceries) and never went back down. We had politicians come out even years later with statements like "Everyone's still living on those COVID stimulus checks and doesn't want to work", like we had all really been subsisting on $800 total for the last few years (my wife and I's COVID stimulus together didn't even cover our rent that month).

This also has shades of UBI - give everyone enough money to live off of and all it does is drives up the cost of living. Every time.

My advice: beware of governments giving gifts.
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It probably will drive up the costs.

But I dont know, does Iran have price controls in place? If not, those 100 eggs at a bargain price might be down to 50.
 
jason10mm said:
then all those hardliners will just take a boat to jolly old England and get free housing and a pensi....errr, support payments for life :P
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Yeah not sure about that since most Muslims in the UK are Sunni while Persians are Shia, and they kinda do not get along.

Instead, Putin is going to receive more visitors by the looks of things 🙂
 
Uprisings in Iran often fail to produce positive outcomes because entrenched internal power structures and self-interested external pressures prevent it. I wish them all the best but unless they're willing to flip more than just one table the same game will continue to play out.

They need step up like they mean business and break every damn thing.

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jshackles said:
Do you think the cost of food will stay the same if everyone in the country can suddenly afford 100 eggs per month?

Feels a bit like our COVID stimulus stuff here in the US - we got a couple of checks in the mail for a few hundred bucks each, and suddenly "cheap" things got less cheap (fast food, low-end groceries) and never went back down. We had politicians come out even years later with statements like "Everyone's still living on those COVID stimulus checks and doesn't want to work", like we had all really been subsisting on $800 total for the last few years (my wife and I's COVID stimulus together didn't even cover our rent that month).

This also has shades of UBI - give everyone enough money to live off of and all it does is drives up the cost of living. Every time.

My advice: beware of governments giving gifts.
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You can't just massively increase the money supply and not expect inflation. It's happened in the past, it happened during Covid, and it'll happen the next time some genius group of politicians thinks its the solution to whatever current problem we have.
 
ADiTAR said:
yeah, their opposition leader is the Shah and they are calling for him to come back.
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Nah, I doubt most Iranians want that guy back. The majority are protesting over economic collapse, personal freedoms, and an end to repression, not a return to a monarchy that didn't work out either. I'll grant there's a minority that supports the idea, but that kind of external pressure is exactly what I was talking about earlier, and it's part of what keeps Iranians from getting what they actually want.
 
I should clarify what I mean by that. Reza Pahlavi (often called Reza Shah Pahlavi II by supporters) gets most of his backing from Iranians who lived outside the country during the later, more repressive years of the monarchy, as well as from people born abroad to families who left after/around 1979. Those who never left Iran and actually lived through that period often have a very different view. His support can look larger than it is because Western media tends to amplify those voices.

Reza Pahlavi aint even live in Iran since 1979, when his family left after the revolution. He has spent his adult life primarily in the United States and has not returned to Iran since. But he has the support of the Majority living in Iran?

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I wish the people of Iran well, and I hope they can overthrow the current regime and implement a Western style of government.

That said, I do not want the US getting involved in any capacity or under any circumstances.
 
I wonder if this is why there has been a surge in US airforce activity in the UK in the past 24 hrs. Preparing for intervention?

Edit: Reports are they are planning on seizing a Venezuelan oil tanker bound for Russia. Interesting nonetheless. Shit is really kicking off already this year and it's only just started.
 
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I'm surprised
Catphish said:
Tom Cruise What GIF
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Across history, pressures created by political or legal bullshit have affected groups at every level of society. At different times, workers, minorities, religious communities, regional populations, and yes even filthy rich mutha fuckas have experienced periods where their rights, security, or influence were constrained by institutions or power structures. While the nature and consequences of pressures varied through history, the common thread was exposure to systems capable of limiting autonomy. What we're seeing in Iran (again) is a bunch of niggas tired of that shit. You may be getting hung up on my use of the word nigga, it's all good. Cheers!
 
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