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[Warspite]

Reports the carrier is now in the Arabian Sea and a Destroyer is in the east of the Mediterranean Sea, the Destroyer will be important as I suspect it will be there to help take down missiles aimed at Tel Avivi.

This may be the calm before the storm.

 

[winjer]

Earth's mightiest warriors, yes.

You might want to consider that most of the population in the USA are Europeans. English, Germans, Italians, Spanish, Irish, French, even Russians, etc.
That is why Americans are also so good at war. It's like a second Europe. Sometimes we even get together, to make war around the world. We just rather it was not in our home again.

Now when I talk to Western Europeans almost none of them say they'd be willing to defend their country against an existential threat. They would just "go somewhere else."

That is how deep the trauma of the 2 World War runs in the European psyche.
Still, under an existential threat, you can bet that the vast majority would pick up weapons to defend their families and friends.
I can give you an example. During the July Crisis of 1914, the one that originated the Great War, the socialist parties (not communist) and worker unions in France and Germany stated publicly that if there was to be a war, the workers would not fight, would not make weapons, would not run the trains.
This was not a vain threat. Even he Generals started to consider "options" to deal with this possibility.
But when Russia declared war on Germany, and their armies mobilized and then advanced into Germany, everyone, including the socialists and unions publicly claimed that defending the country, the home, their families were more important.
And when Germany declared war on France, the same happened there.
The reality is that talk is cheap, but when push comes to shove, the people will rise to the occasion.

 

[Warspite]

And the build up continues, would this suggest plans have been brief to others now?

 

[Cyberpunkd]

It's like a second Europe.

Please don't, you are not. I like to think that people that ended in America were simply kicked out of Europe.

 

[winjer]

Please don't, you are not. I like to think that people that ended in America were simply kicked out of Europe.

They weren't kicked out. The vast majority were normal people just looking for a better life.

One could argue that Australia would fit that description better. But even then, only the first colonies were made of convicted criminals, sent to work in mines.
But even then, most people who emigrated to Australia after, were just normal people looking for an opportunity.

 

[Dr Cowley]

Please don't, you are not. I like to think that people that ended in America were simply kicked out of Europe.

"This heres middle ages Europe boy! We dont take kindly to christianity in these here parts! Go on, git!"

 

[Chittagong]

Please don't, you are not. I like to think that people that ended in America were simply kicked out of Europe.

You're thinking of Austria

 

[Cyberpunkd]

You're thinking of Austria

Australia you mean?

 

[RJMacready73]

And the build up continues, would this suggest plans have been brief to others now?

What the fuck are the British doing, we should be wiping our hands at helping that Orange cunt out after his appalling remarks about NATO's involvement in Afghanistan

 

[Donald mac Ronald]

What the fuck are the British doing, we should be wiping our hands at helping that Orange cunt out after his appalling remarks about NATO's involvement in Afghanistan

The Iranians hold 2 British hostages. It's about the time the British stopped being pussies and taking action.

The UK quietly gave Iran 200 million to get one hostage back a few years ago

 

[Warspite]

Note the full air to air compliment (no ground attack) and the very precise use of the term "defensive capacity". We have long defence pac with Qatar and this will be in case Iran just fires at everyone.

 

[Hookshot]

What the fuck are the British doing, we should be wiping our hands at helping that Orange cunt out after his appalling remarks about NATO's involvement in Afghanistan

I agree, time to cut them out of 5 eyes and move on without them.

 

[winjer]

The Iranians hold 2 British hostages. It's about the time the British stopped being pussies and taking action.

The UK quietly gave Iran 200 million to get one hostage back a few years ago

FFS, the UK is being ran by idiots.
We should never pay out to terrorist. That will only incentivize more and more attacks and kidnaps.

 

[AJUMP23]

FFS, the UK is being ran by idiots.
We should never pay out to terrorist. That will only incentivize more and more attacks and kidnaps.

Previous admin unfroze their accounts. You could see Iran celebrating over the arrangement.

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

And the build up continues, would this suggest plans have been brief to others now?

UK is trying to be important. Probably will be like in 1945 where the capitulation act had a french signature and one of nazi commanders said something like "oh! and french are here too!".

I guess this weekend something interesting might happen. When the markets close, the launch sites open.

What the fuck are the British doing, we should be wiping our hands at helping that Orange cunt out after his appalling remarks about NATO's involvement in Afghanistan

To be fair I would like both France and UK not being involved in the iranian situation too due to the mess related to Mosaddegh, Shah, the first ayatollah Khomeini being both french and british governments fault (together with a weak Carter administration and commies). Granted it was a Cold War mess. But oh well.

 

[ContrarianAsshole]

That's the downside of being the US. Everyone looks to America to lead the charge when it comes to fights, money, bailouts, stock market etc... Shit goes down and who does everyone hope helps them out? The US.

All the other countries in NATO or UN or whatever sit back and watch. Crazy stuff happens in the mid east, and as usual it takes the US whose across the Atlantic ocean to take action while the shitload of European countries as well Japan who could all help out sit on their asses half the time.

It wouldn't have been anywhere near that bad if the US didn't screw up Iraq and Afganistan, and it would have been easy to not screw all that up, where it not for the rot that was brewing underneath US society finally bursting out for everyone to see. Would have been easy to just leave the Baath party in charge of Iraq, with some mandated reforms, and there wouldn't have been a 7+ year long insurgency. Would have been easy to realize that invading a tribal country of hostile semi-civilized people who hate your guts wouldn't have helped with Osama's capture. All those things would have been easy to figure out, unfortunately the US government does not serve it's constituents, it serves capital, and in this instance capital demands low intensity, long lasting wars to feed defense contractors for years and years.