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I suppose we see this differently. And I'm not saying America is Russia, I'm saying Trump wants it to be and is trying to get the ball rolling. Trump wants what Putin has. My comparison is not controversial.

Specifically referring to the change in documentation requirements which impact legal citizens and mail-in-vote dates - yes, this undermines US elections by deliberately making it harder, or impossible depending on implementation timelines, for a specific portion of the population to vote. The number of documented cases of non-citizens voting is pretty small, as best as I can see. Yet, Trump has said he believes the changes will guarantee the Republicans the midterms. Sounds like he's expecting a pretty big impact - one that doesn't reflect the size of the stated need for these changes. This should tell you he knows its going to impact legal citizens voting.

Based on the video evidence alone, trying to chalk up all of these killings as "mentally unwell people" is absurd at best, and frankly kind of gross at worst.

While I don't disagree, there's little to be done, because the US system assumed that no one person controls all of it. Looking back at several countries who have gone down this road, the conversation worth having now is around preventing consolidation of power. Trump is waving around Trump 2028 hats and "jokingly" says elections aren't even needed anymore. He's told his country what he plans to do. He told them before he was re-elected.

I know you're banned but this does NOT make voting more difficult for any legal citizen. If they can't vote due to this then they also cannot get sudafed at Walgreen's.

 

[Lucie Goosey]

President Trump is a very courageous individual, both personally and politically, as he has demonstrated many times over.

Yeah it's not funny anymore. Dude has the blood of children on his hands.

 

[Chittagong]

The U.S. 14 point framework presented to Iran:

• Full dismantlement of accumulated nuclear capabilities

• Binding commitment never to pursue nuclear weapons

• Zero enrichment permitted on Iranian soil

• All enriched material transferred to the IAEA on an accelerated timeline

• Natanz, Isfahan, and Fordow to be decommissioned and destroyed

• Full transparency with the IAEA across all nuclear activities

• End of the proxy warfare doctrine

• Immediate halt to funding and arming regional proxies

• Strait of Hormuz guaranteed open as a free maritime corridor

• Missile program to face future limits on range and quantity

• Short range missiles restricted strictly to defensive use

• Full sanctions relief for Iran

• Support for a civilian nuclear project in Bushehr for electricity generation

• Removal of the snapback sanctions mechanism

That's a very good deal for Iran.

- Nukes would never happen anyway
- Get to keep missiles
- Proxy warfare is pointless if they make peace in Middle East
- Still get nuclear power
- Full sanctions relief is huge
- No mention of US raiding their natural resources
- No mention of regime change

Would be insane to pass

 

[EviLore]

That's a very good deal for Iran.

- Nukes would never happen anyway
- Get to keep missiles
- Proxy warfare is pointless if they make peace in Middle East
- Still get nuclear power
- Full sanctions relief is huge
- No mention of US raiding their natural resources
- No mention of regime change

Would be insane to pass

Yes.


This is the counter-proposal:

 

[Lord Panda]

Yes.


This is the counter-proposal:

Deluded fools.

It's disappointing, though not entirely surprising, that the US framework makes no mention of the Iranian people themselves - for example, the release of political prisoners or accountability for officials responsible for the killing of civilians.

 

[EviLore]

Deluded fools.

It's disappointing, though not entirely surprising, that the US framework makes no mention of the Iranian people themselves for example, the release of political prisoners or accountability for officials responsible for the killing of civilians.

Agreed. It would be a shame if there ended up being no improvement for the Iranian people at the end of all this.

 

[StueyDuck]

Yeah it's not funny anymore. Dude has the blood of children on his hands.

Im sure he personally shouted "strike the children" as he slammed his fist on the big red button that is labelled "Kill Kids" that no president before ever did and that the Iranian regime absolutely has never ever done.

Literally everyone is squeaky clean except trump of course

 

[rorepmE]

That's a very good deal for Iran.

- Nukes would never happen anyway
- Get to keep missiles
- Proxy warfare is pointless if they make peace in Middle East
- Still get nuclear power
- Full sanctions relief is huge
- No mention of US raiding their natural resources
- No mention of regime change

Would be insane to pass

They won't go for it. You have to understand the Shi'a vs Sunni is not just a religious friction but a political struggle between Sunni Saudi Arabia and Shi'a Iran. Shi'a is about 10% of all muslims world wide. All their proxies are in countries with large Shi'a minorities for the purpose of distablizing and harassing security forces in those countries because they want to export their Islamic revolutionary ideas with the primary goal of security (for the regime) secondary goal is to defend Shi'a Islam as Tehran sees themselves as the vanguard of their branch.

The basically want to be the hegemon in the region and spread their influence because outside of Israel, there is no other power in the region (prior to the current war) that can match them. That's why they want the US out of the region to change the balance of power in their favor so the gulf states will be at their mercy. If we leave, the petrodollar is going to be done-zo because the primary reason it exists is oil-for-security.

 

[Ozriel]

Iran's demands essentially mean that there's no feasible end to the war anytime soon, as it will take ages to land on a middle ground.
The Iranians will declare victory as soon as Trump pulls out, and you can bet every other Iranian proxy will follow a similar path of maximizing ballistic missile production.

TBH, this incompetence started from both the Biden administration and the Trump admin. Both seemed to have learnt nothing from the Ukraine war. Production of Patriot missile interceptors should have been ramped up to insane levels since 2024, and indeed the Pentagon should have invested more in missile and drone interception research.

If they're this unprepared for combat with an adversary with significant missile capability, how do we know Hegseth is ready for a war in an FPV drone era?

 

[MisterFalcon]

If they're this unprepared for combat with an adversary with significant missile capability, how do we know Hegseth is ready for a war in an FPV drone era?

Only one way to find out and the test subjects are currently being flown to the deployment area. Every attack by a drone on an American soldier invading Iran will be labeled terrorism and after a few days the nuke threats will come out.

 

[winjer]

Yes.


This is the counter-proposal:

This could be a strategy that is similar to what Russia uses for it's negotiations and they have been doing it for centuries, because it works.
First, they start by making outrageous demands, along side with the things they actually want. They know the other side will denied them, so them they publicly claim the other side does not want to negotiate and is trying to sabotage talks.
As negotiations advance, they wave off the outrageous demands, pretending they are making real concessions. But trying to portray it as if they are negotiating in good faith, when they are not.
In the end, they get exactly what they wanted from the start, forcing the other side to move their demands into a worst place.

You can bet Iran will soon start saying that the USA doesn't want peace, because it refused to negotiate with Iran.
When in reality, Iran just made a bunch of unjustifiable demands that could not be accepted.

 

[MisterFalcon]

As long as the people in Trump's inner circle continue making billions with insider trading the game of talks/bombings/pauses/talks/threats/escalation/de-escalation/talks/repeat will go on.