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Which political elites are those? Pandering how? Lmao. Do you obtain all your information from GB News and The Sun?
Do you just not watch any news at all? The UK literally just had a new "definition" passed on what "anti-muslim hate" is...

The Elites are literally Housing Illegal migrants in Hotels and Places where the city people themselves are saying they don't want these migrants in their neighbourhoods.

To pretend that the UK gov doesn't pander to them is mental.

They were literally having Policy discussions on whether you can fuck and marry your cousin... Even entertaining that speech is fucking pandering to a specific culture.
 
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Do you just not watch any news at all? The UK literally just had a new "definition" passed on what "anti-muslim hate" is...

The Elites are literally Housing Illegal migrants in Hotels and Places where the city people themselves are saying they don't want these migrants in their neighbourhoods.

To pretend that the UK gov doesn't pander to them is mental.

They were literally having Policy discussions on whether you can fuck and marry your cousin... Even entertaining that speech is fucking pandering to a specific culture.
We can in the UK legally marry a cousin - its been like that for many years. Its nothing to do with anyones culture bar our own. You can do the same in the half of the states in the US as well by the looks of it, presumably for the same reasons we can here.
 
Textbook definition of cutting off the nose to spite the face. Iranian nukes pose a much more realistic threat to the EU as they're much closer and easier targets within range of Iranian ballistics. They're also simultaneously much more impacted by rising oil prices from terroristic threats in the strait. A modernized non-authoritarian Iran would be hugely beneficial for EU and everyone pretty much accepts they're secretly thanking Trump.
No one is thinking about attacking the EU. The EU was more concerned about the US invading Greenland.
Shouldn't we expect better from our leaders than TDS?

I thought the adults were in the room.

And that's not taking into account that removing Iran as a threat to all our economies should be a top priority. Diplomacy didn't work for decades and now that inaction is bearing bitter fruit.
Iran is as much a threat as another third world with missiles. Problem is now that the only legit time they have used their weapons is… against a US attack.
 
We can in the UK legally marry a cousin - its been like that for many years. Its nothing to do with anyones culture bar our own. You can do the same in the half of the states in the US as well by the looks of it, presumably for the same reasons we can here.

Blame the filthy King for that

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But right now UK is doing everything it can to help Muslims and protect them from consequences of their own actions, at the same time they oppress their own people.

I don't like Trump but I despise leftist European governments (just like they despise their own native citizens) way more than that...
 
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It's WW3 - isn't it? :(
Wow! I'm really looking forward to this! And just when I finally found a new girlfriend...
Don't worry it's just a global special military operation that will be over in three days (or ten years whatever is longer). You might die or go hungry but the stock market will be absolutely thriving so you should have no trouble accepting a few small sacrifices.
 
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Shouldn't we expect better from our leaders than TDS?

I thought the adults were in the room.

And that's not taking into account that removing Iran as a threat to all our economies should be a top priority. Diplomacy didn't work for decades and now that inaction is bearing bitter fruit.
That's mostly not how Europe is handling Trump. In public they are flattering him as much as they can, calling him "daddy", and making statements about how right he is and how they should do better. But in private they are just seeing America as lost, an unreliable and unpredictable partner for the foreseeable future, and are trying to route around the US and build new partnerships without them.
 
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The only ones self-flagellating over Empire are the right wingers who decided "muh sovereignty" is more important than being in a political and trade alliance with your nearest geographical allies.
How's that working out for you?


Which political elites are those? Pandering how? Lmao. Do you obtain all your information from GB News and The Sun?


Yeah the UK does indeed spend too much money on attempting to pander to billionaires. Sold off all their strategic national assets on the cheap under Thatcher, and are wondering why everything is falling apart. Genius.
"No such thing as society" lol.


Britannia doesn't rule the waves any more. Haven't since 1957 when the US lil bro'd them over the Suez Canal. Once again, I wonder if there was some way a small nation could join a bloc, or some kind of strategic alliance with continental allies. Might be useful.

1. You clearly don't know what 'flagellate' means.

2. Muslims. Certain MPs have self-published plenty of photos and comments pandering to them. Cousin marriage being acceptable is discussed in the House of Commons. 'Anti-Muslim hate speech' is being defined specifically.

3. Social care is bankrupting the country. PIP and Motability are jokes now. Local councils are legally required to fund social care and its taking up 2/3rds of their budgets. SEND diagnoses are through the roof and kids transported by taxis 50 miles every day. By taxi companies that are owned by their relatives.

4. No, we longer rule the waves. Yet having two of the best aircraft carriers in the world, arguablythe best nuclear submarines in the world, and one of the best anti-air frigates in the world, it took us almost a week to send one frigate to defend our own territory.


You're delusional and have your head cemented into the sand.
 
It's true in this case. There's a photograph of her in Hezbollah and no one seems to dispute her alignment, they only make the claim it's also a political party. Keep representing the terrorists even in the face of facts. I see who you are.
Yeah about that photo....faked by IDF.....

 
We can in the UK legally marry a cousin - its been like that for many years. Its nothing to do with anyones culture bar our own. You can do the same in the half of the states in the US as well by the looks of it, presumably for the same reasons we can here.
Again, someone who doesnt watch the news.

Who is actively defending the right to fuck cousins?
 
1. You clearly don't know what 'flagellate' means.
Ah my mistake.

2. Muslims. Certain MPs have self-published plenty of photos and comments pandering to them. Cousin marriage being acceptable is discussed in the House of Commons. 'Anti-Muslim hate speech' is being defined specifically.
What? Muslims are all a hivemind? Defining hate speech against Muslims is equivalent to pandering to Iranian regime sympathisers? Are all Muslims Iranian regime sympathisers? I would wager Emiratis and Qataris and Saudi's might disagree on the balance of what's happened to them. I do agree with the cousin marriage thing - but not like the UK has any serious right to admonish it when you still allow the Royal Family to exist. Also who exactly is defending cousin marriage anyway?

3. Social care is bankrupting the country. PIP and Motability are jokes now. Local councils are legally required to fund social care and its taking up 2/3rds of their budgets. SEND diagnoses are through the roof and kids transported by taxis 50 miles every day. By taxi companies that are owned by their relatives.
Social care in the UK is worse than it has ever been in since it was started post-WW2. If there is something that is bankrupting the UK its not social care. Its the lack of investment IN the country. In its infrastructure, its public services. The selling off of money-generating national assets to private interests under Thatcher has had deep and long-lasting consequences on the British economy. Its not something you can handwave away as being "in the past". The shuttering of all manufacturing industries, and consolidation of fiscal muscle into the financial services sector in London has basically seen wealth being extracted out of the country by foreign interests. And then there's Brexit. The biggest shoot yourself in the foot moment in recent history. You've saved no money from leaving the EU, but are now subject to a harsher and more expensive trade environment with your proximal neighbors. You lost the ability to vote or veto EU law, but are still required to follow it if you wish to trade with them. And that is costing the UK money. Costing average citizens money. Its costing economic growth, because of the additional trade red-tape that must be dealt with to trade with the countries directly next to you.

Heck one of the big mistakes Britain made historically, was deposing the Iranian democracy that just wanted a 50/50 split of Iranian oil, only to end up with none of the oil. And now the world is facing the consequences of installing the very regime, the US is fighting now. Britain's problems began long before today. The real global elite of course don't care. Once they've bled Little Britain of the last of its wealth, they'll move on to somewhere else.

You can point the finger at immigrants and Muslims all you like, but fundamentally Britain and US engineered the circumstances of those refugees. They created the problem, because they wanted to enforce their foreign policy goals on the world. And now the whole world is dealing with the consequences of those mistakes.

And you know what this war is going to create? More refugees. And what right do we in the West have to refuse them, after we blasted their homeland into oblivion? You can't take the moral high ground on this with the "well the Iranian regime (that the West installed) was killing protestors, so we must go to war to save them" and then at the same time cast away the refugees that conflict will inevitably create. What the fuck did you think was going to happen?

4. No, we longer rule the waves. Yet having two of the best aircraft carriers in the world, arguablythe best nuclear submarines in the world, and one of the best anti-air frigates in the world, it took us almost a week to send one frigate to defend our own territory.
Yeah, a paper tiger. You have all this power in theory, but are unable to project it, because the Empire is gone. It was replaced by the USA. The British Navy might well still be very strong (as well it should be for an island nation) to defend itself against aggression. But its not nearly enough to project power in the modern world, the way it did 150 years ago. There's also the matter of cost of upkeep. If mere social care is enough to bankrupt the UK, then I'd hate to see how badly they'd fair with trying to finance a war effort.

You're delusional and have your head cemented into the sand.
You can say that if you want. I don't mind.
 
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MADRID (AP) — Spain has closed its airspace to U.S. planes involved in the Iran war, Defense Minister Margarita Robles said Monday, marking another step in the country's opposition to the U.S. and Israel's conflict in the Middle East.

Spain had already said the U.S. could not use jointly operated military bases in the Iran conflict, which Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez has described as illegal, reckless and unjust.
Defense Minister Robles said Monday the same logic applied to the use of Spanish airspace in the conflict.

"This was made perfectly clear to the American military and forces from the very beginning. Therefore, neither the bases are authorized, nor, of course, is the use of Spanish airspace authorized for any actions related to the war in Iran," Robles told reporters. Spanish newspaper El Pais first reported the closure of Spain's airspace, citing military sources.
 
The rising fuel costs have hit USPS as well, for the first time in history.

It's probably in the admin's best interest to sort this out quickly, this is going to be a massive point against them for the upcoming midterms.


Didn't we just start getting oil from Venezuela? Now we're diluting fuel with ethanol and prices keep rising. All in the name of not getting impeached.
 
Didn't we just start getting oil from Venezuela? Now we're diluting fuel with ethanol and prices keep rising. All in the name of not getting impeached.

Due to lack of investment and mismanagement by Venezuelan government - their oil production declined from 3.5M barrels per day in the 90s to 0.8M barrels per day. Shame, really.
 
Didn't we just start getting oil from Venezuela? Now we're diluting fuel with ethanol and prices keep rising. All in the name of not getting impeached.
The price of oil is set on a global scale.
If one source is plugged, all other sources are incentivised to raise their prices along with the reduction of supply.

Remember, private companies are getting oil from these fields. These are not nationalised industries. If they were US government owned companies extracting oil from Venezuela and Guyana, then yeah they'd be able to sell it back to themselves at cost, to keep US oil prices low. But that's not what's happening.
 
Yo is it true if the USA does a ground invasion in Iran that Israel won't be sending any troops?

Truly our greatest ally if true.
Unlike the US, Israel has 3 ground locations it needs to take care of.

Israel also planned helping with a Kurdish invasion that the US stopped.
 
Thanks to this mess, I moved up my switch to an EV by about 2 years. Was hoping to be on the other side of my current vehicle finance before I pulled the trigger on the switch, but things only look to getting worse. Hard to justify a gas vehicle anymore. Particularly when you WFH and have the infrastructure around you to support it. Traded in my 21 Outback and we kept my wife's Accent. Def will always keep 1 gas vehicle in the house.

Hurts a little.. Outback is an amazing vehicle, but this EV is fun as hell :)

Would strongly suggest anyone still owning full gas to look into EVs/Hybrids. Some great deals out there, and well gas only going to get more expensive over the coming months.

PSA: Duke energy has a program that pays up to 890 for upgrades/installation of a charger in your home.+90 dollar bill credits if you charge during off hours.
 
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