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Monster Hunter 3 Tri |OT| Animal Cruelty Made Fun
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ShinNL
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I've had a lot of online hours in the Monster Hunter series, I've seen pretty much everything. However, I don't see myself wishing a teammate would die for obvious reasons. You can either be a type that encourages not-so-good players to play better, telling them how to improve their style so it's more teamfriendly and heal your team, or you can be a prick about it and just hate your teammates for everything. You seem to be the latter type.Lance Bone Path said:
By "sometimes" you mean you play LS a lot, right? I remember you saying you weren't a lance player but a LS + something else. Now unless you're using that other weapon a lot more...
You see, what's bothering me about your post is that you seem to be the Long Sword type person that I meet online who are only happy if they can hit the monster, despite everything. This includes using the horizontal slash so they can charge up, even continuously knocking teammates for that purpose. The fact that you didn't explain that you were going to end the quest (just asking "traps?" won't do) seems to me that you're one of those selfish types. This is just my view on you right now.
It tells a lot about personalities when people use that weapon in multiplayer*. I'll explain it in other words: what's the benefit for the team if you use that weapon? Depending on your answer to that question, look at the sentence marked with * for a self reflection.Syril said:
Lance Bone Path
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I don't have enough energy to "hate" people in a game. As far as helping people improve their style, I don't know if I have the energy to do that either.Soneet said:
Some people are conscious about hitting other people and some people aren't. It's better to give pointers when people aren't playing- like in a message forum rather than in-game.
I'm happy if I can hit a monster, but I generally stand back and let other people hit it if there isn't a good way to hit it without smacking other people. This is sometimes a judgment call or a quick hands-eye coordinated motion and I make a mistake and hit people; it happens.
I've given some thought about being selfish/unselfish in this game, and I could easily spend all my time going into low rank rooms and helping people HR up, but at the end, what does that achieve if this activity I'm spending limited free time on bores me?
Kyoufu said:
What's wrong with the sweep? As long as the other person is in an animation, it doesn't do anything to them, correct?
So if the other person is already attacking, and I do unsheathe -> sweep, i won't knock that person down. And even if they're not in an animation, it just knocks them to their put for a second, rather than sending them flying.
The overhead one though, yeah, GS users: Don't use that online, unless you're absolutely positive no one is around. So obnoxious.
EDIT: I should ad that I sent someone flying by accident during my Alatreon last night. I think if it only happens once in a while, people can forgive it. But if it happens more than 3 or 4 times in a quest I start to get a bit upset.
ShinNL
Member
The sweep knocks down SnS users, Lance users and Hammer users, even during attack animations. This knock means: putting them into unguardable situations like screams, charges, body slams, elemental attacks. For SnS users it's also precious time lost for item use, healing, shield KO'ing, status element timing. For Lance users this means losing positioning (ever played one? requires planning to move), missing counter opportunities, losing out probably on at least 3-5 hits. For Hammer users this could mean missing a triple pound opportunity, a KO moment, losing a charge and gets a vulnerable position because of being a close range fighter with no guard.Nicktals said:
I don't think sweep = automatically asshole, but a good GS player chooses between rolling out of the unsheathe attack or use sweep depending on the teammate positions and their weapon types.
The ratio of "I must power up no matter what!!!" players vs "I use vertical slashes mostly unless no one that can be knocked down is around" players is pretty sad in Tri.Alex said:
Lance Bone Path
Member
One exception to this is the lance charge which won't be interrupted by any attack that doesn't send someone flying. I make use of the charge attack far more often to entertain my indiscriminate LS side-slasher friends.Soneet said:
The hammer spin attack probably also has some ability to resist interruption.
Air Zombie Meat
Member
Yeah it can be really frustrating when you've got 2/3 long sword using teammates constantly spamming spirit combos right next to you or even worse great sword users using the upswing all the time for no good reason. I try not to get too annoyed as I figure they are dealing damage after all and sometimes it saves me from taking hits.
To my shame I have to admit if someones doing it way too much I start getting careless with the lance charge hoping they might get the message. Maybe some people just aren't aware of how much they're messing up their teammates. Took me a while to realise when I first went online with long sword.
edit: I see i'm not the only one
To my shame I have to admit if someones doing it way too much I start getting careless with the lance charge hoping they might get the message. Maybe some people just aren't aware of how much they're messing up their teammates. Took me a while to realise when I first went online with long sword.
edit: I see i'm not the only one
ShinNL
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Yeah, airing frustration is a good thing. Once I chased down a hammer user who superpounded me about 12 times with a SnS and shieldbashed him flying about 5 times. He was so scared that he kept walking circles afterwards.Lance Bone Path said:The one exception to this is the lance charge which won't be interrupted by any attack that doesn't send someone flying. I make use of the charge attack far more often to entertain my indiscriminate LS side-slasher friends.
Some people charge at close range with a lance (usually a downed monster), they're just as horrible as any other team-hitters :lol
Yeah true, but both attacks you listed aren't recommended attacks, so usually you can't count on that immunity when using those weapons.
Hm, I didnt have these problems, yet. One difficult quests, the people I played with always seemed to plan their attacks. Sure, sometimes some gets hit, but whatever. And then there´s quests that everyone knows its easy, so nobody cares about anything and we just spam-attack the monster, hitting each other all the time...and it´s fun
In general: As long as someone hitting me doesn´t cause me to take a lot damage or die, I don´t care. But Im a SnS-user, so maybe that´s why Im okay when hunter with higher-damage weapons go all out. Im there for quick damage dealing and distraction - the big guys for taking down the monster (and Im cutting of the tails, haha)
btw. baby-Uragaan is sooo cute. xD Killed 2 people of my group in the beginning when nobody had realized that this was really just a small version of the normal one.
In general: As long as someone hitting me doesn´t cause me to take a lot damage or die, I don´t care. But Im a SnS-user, so maybe that´s why Im okay when hunter with higher-damage weapons go all out. Im there for quick damage dealing and distraction - the big guys for taking down the monster
(and Im cutting of the tails, haha)btw. baby-Uragaan is sooo cute. xD Killed 2 people of my group in the beginning when nobody had realized that this was really just a small version of the normal one.
Just played the Festival of Fear special event, where you are on the ship and you have to take down the giant croc-like monster.
Holy crap was that intense!!! LOVE it!
Apparently we were close to killing it. It was in front of our ship coming at us from the front, i tried bringing a cannonball up there thinking there was a cannon up there. 2 more peeps were already up there. Got up there just in time to watch him, almost in slow motion (like the last moments before you die lol) come up and chomp the bow of the ship, along with 2 of us, and we failed.
it was awesome.
Holy crap was that intense!!! LOVE it!
Apparently we were close to killing it. It was in front of our ship coming at us from the front, i tried bringing a cannonball up there thinking there was a cannon up there. 2 more peeps were already up there. Got up there just in time to watch him, almost in slow motion (like the last moments before you die lol) come up and chomp the bow of the ship, along with 2 of us, and we failed.
it was awesome.
Jhen is back, hmm?
I don't know if I have the heart to farm that battle again for "+" materials. I think I'm probably just about done with the game. Hitting high rank has been pretty underwhelming so far and it takes forever to find some of the low % stuff, like the different dragon gems and wyvern stones. Might try to upgrade my Lagiacrus stuff (since I got a sapphire on my first try) to take on Altreon eventually, but I can't see myself doing a whole lot afterward.
It could also be that I just need a break. Playing for 100+ hours in the first few weeks is a lot more than I've spent on a single game in such a short period of time in a LONG while. :lol
EDIT: Not to say that the game ISN'T entirely pure, distilled awesomeness. I've really enjoyed what I've played so far.
I don't know if I have the heart to farm that battle again for "+" materials. I think I'm probably just about done with the game. Hitting high rank has been pretty underwhelming so far and it takes forever to find some of the low % stuff, like the different dragon gems and wyvern stones. Might try to upgrade my Lagiacrus stuff (since I got a sapphire on my first try) to take on Altreon eventually, but I can't see myself doing a whole lot afterward.
It could also be that I just need a break. Playing for 100+ hours in the first few weeks is a lot more than I've spent on a single game in such a short period of time in a LONG while. :lol
EDIT: Not to say that the game ISN'T entirely pure, distilled awesomeness. I've really enjoyed what I've played so far.
Took on the Agnaktor offline hunt quest a couple of times. For being one of the near end bosses of the game, he was easy but fun. Forged the waist and legging armor pieces.
I cut off his tail but his beak didn't seem to fully break even though I saw it break twice. By the way, what part of his body (if any) can you get an Agnaktor claw from ?
I cut off his tail but his beak didn't seem to fully break even though I saw it break twice. By the way, what part of his body (if any) can you get an Agnaktor claw from ?
Air Zombie Meat
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Hiltz said:
I think you have to damage his feet.
fistwell_old
Member
Yeah well when you launch my ass 10 meters up in the air with a mighty hammer swing, that kind of fucks up my positioning too!!!Soneet said:
Man High Rank Barroth is not fun when you only have two players and you're using a weapon you have no idea how to use well. I used up all my potions with only one Mega Potion left. :lol I needed practice for my new Rust Lance and I decided to focus on the Barroth high rank armor parts.
So not to be too corny, but its awesome how much experienced guys are willing to help us newbies out- PusherT and Ed (don't know his gaf name) just spent an hour helping me out with monsters that probably put them to sleep they are so easy to kill.
Much appreciated.
Still need one more damn Jaggi head though...stuck at 7!
Much appreciated.
Still need one more damn Jaggi head though...stuck at 7!
ShinNL
Member
If it's the 3rd swing of the triple pound, then it's not my faultFistwell said:Yeah well when you launch my ass 10 meters up in the air with a mighty hammer swing, that kind of fucks up my positioning too!!!
If it's the superpound or unsheathe attack though... it means I'm sorry for being so crappy with the hammer xD
I didn't say thatLuigiv said:Are you saying I was no help? You've hurt me Soneet, you've hurt me deep
Depends on how you answer that question. For me, I think LS users have good damage potential and good reach (for tail cutting and head slicing), when used right. When used wrong, they're a nuisance because they're not using the good part of the weapon but just wildly swing at random spots, only causing trouble to teammates. But the way I formulated that sentence, I imagine some people would answer:
- Who cares if I can help my team?
or
- None at all, they're scum of the earth.
etc.
It just shows people personalities if you look at how you answer it. I personally prefer using Lance and SnS because I rather pin point my attacks so I don't hit my teammates as often and I'm willing to pass on trip immunity during attacks like the popular weapons have.
Fair Enough, I was only messingSoneet said:I didn't say that
Depends on how you answer that question. For me, I think LS users have good damage potential and good reach (for tail cutting and head slicing), when used right. When used from, they're a nuisance because they're not using the good part of the weapon but just wildly swing at random spots, only causing trouble to teammates. But the way I formulated that sentence, I imagine some people would answer:
- Who cares if I can help my team?
or
- None at all, they're scum of the earth.
etc.
It just shows people personalities if you look at how you answer it. I personally prefer using Lance and SnS because I rather pin point my attacks so I don't hit my teammates as often and I'm willing to pass on trip immunity during attacks like the popular weapons have.
. Well to answer your question, I went with a long sword that time because A) It had paralysis and B) My two best classes are Hammers and LS, and I wanted to help cut off tails. See I at least thought about it.
Alex
Member
The online base in this is driving me insane. The GAF sect, very cool, nice folks, came prepared, never any problems when I dealt with most of you guys
Today was kind of the straw the broke the camels back, fourth Jhen+ wipe of the day, all in the final minutes. I'm tired of being nice, I'm normally very forgiving but honestly if you're on high rank, and die on Jhen even once, you've probably need to reevaluate your presence there
Not really unless you're some GameFAQs hugging tart who can't let go of MHFU. LS is pretty spiffy in Tri if you can actually act as a team player. Sadly... this is quite rare in the pick up groups, however.
But If you're still playing all around exclusion on it, you're kind of being an ass. Some of the AP and Elem ratios on a few of the LS work super well if you can maintain a good gauge, and then you don't need to be using the spirit combo anyway outside of niche situations.
Trying to pull out the "WUTS THE BENEFIT HURF" is so stupid. The game isn't that min/max happy to be like that and it's utterly laughable to act like it is. It pulls it's weight now in the hands of a good player, very much so, and that's all that matters. Don't rage at others because Narutofan69 kept knocking you over with sweeps.
PS: I don't use a LS much, so please don't drop an angst bomb on me like the GameFAQs base.
Today was kind of the straw the broke the camels back, fourth Jhen+ wipe of the day, all in the final minutes. I'm tired of being nice, I'm normally very forgiving but honestly if you're on high rank, and die on Jhen even once, you've probably need to reevaluate your presence there
Not really unless you're some GameFAQs hugging tart who can't let go of MHFU. LS is pretty spiffy in Tri if you can actually act as a team player. Sadly... this is quite rare in the pick up groups, however.
But If you're still playing all around exclusion on it, you're kind of being an ass. Some of the AP and Elem ratios on a few of the LS work super well if you can maintain a good gauge, and then you don't need to be using the spirit combo anyway outside of niche situations.
Trying to pull out the "WUTS THE BENEFIT HURF" is so stupid. The game isn't that min/max happy to be like that and it's utterly laughable to act like it is. It pulls it's weight now in the hands of a good player, very much so, and that's all that matters. Don't rage at others because Narutofan69 kept knocking you over with sweeps.
PS: I don't use a LS much, so please don't drop an angst bomb on me like the GameFAQs base.
Alex
Member
1.) Be aggressive, get your gauge up and keep it up with consistent attacks. Look into Fast Charge when you can
2.) Learn to use the Evasion sweep when necessary. It builds the greatest block of spirit can allows you to fade in the direction of your choice, it'll also chain off of multiple minions if you have some around to swat.
3.) Don't bunch together if you plan on using your spirit combo to build a gauge. Take advantage of the mad reach it gets. Properly planned you can get a gauge off of an unattackable situation just from the sheer range of the strike.
4.) Don't always feel obligated to use your spirit combo. Just link together a standard combo if it's not a good place to be, especially at maximum spirit, only the sweep of the spirit combo has any real AP hike over your typical.
The L. sword was a bit iffy in MHFU, but now it keeps fairly even pace with everything else. Just learn the offbits of it and don't knock your pals down
And avoid the GameFAQs angst from it, you'll really know it when you see it. (See above)
2.) Learn to use the Evasion sweep when necessary. It builds the greatest block of spirit can allows you to fade in the direction of your choice, it'll also chain off of multiple minions if you have some around to swat.
3.) Don't bunch together if you plan on using your spirit combo to build a gauge. Take advantage of the mad reach it gets. Properly planned you can get a gauge off of an unattackable situation just from the sheer range of the strike.
4.) Don't always feel obligated to use your spirit combo. Just link together a standard combo if it's not a good place to be, especially at maximum spirit, only the sweep of the spirit combo has any real AP hike over your typical.
The L. sword was a bit iffy in MHFU, but now it keeps fairly even pace with everything else. Just learn the offbits of it and don't knock your pals down
And avoid the GameFAQs angst from it, you'll really know it when you see it. (See above)