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[Lanrutcon]

So no i-frames when rolling, and you have to commit to each attack, since once initiated, most attacks can't be canceled and will play out their animation unless interrupted by a monster's attack.

If each monster is only vulnerable to certain types of strikes, to certain places on their body, how do you come to learn what works? Trial and error? Consulting a wiki?

You have iframes. They're incredibly tight, and do not make up the majority of your roll. You can equip gear to up them, but you never reach Dark Souls level of silly. Not even close. In fact, due to the size of certain monsters you'll never have enough iframes to roll through some attacks. If rolling isn't your thing, there are ranged weapons and shields. But those also have disclaimers attached to them.

Trial and error/wiki/grouping will teach you where you need to hit. You can hit the monster wherever you want, but results (and damage) vary a lot based on what you're hitting with. So learning that Monster X is weak to Blunt damage on his rear legs makes a huge difference, or that hitting Monster Y on the gills knocks them over eventually.

 

[Meffer]

So no i-frames when rolling, and you have to commit to each attack, since once initiated, most attacks can't be canceled and will play out their animation unless interrupted by a monster's attack.

If each monster is only vulnerable to certain types of strikes, to certain places on their body, how do you come to learn what works? Trial and error? Consulting a wiki?

By fighting against them. When you play the game enough, you get a "sixth sense". Like getting a feeling when to do something or when the next attack will stun or KO or not. Even how close a part will break or cut off. Research also helps.

 

[Meffer]

You have iframes. They're incredibly tight, and do not make up the majority of your roll. You can equip gear to up them, but you never reach Dark Souls level of silly. Not even close. In fact, due to the size of certain monsters you'll never have enough iframes to roll through some attacks. If rolling isn't your thing, there are ranged weapons and shields. But those also have disclaimers attached to them.

Trial and error/wiki/grouping will teach you where you need to hit. You can hit the monster wherever you want, but results (and damage) vary a lot based on what you're hitting with. So learning that Monster X is weak to Blunt damage on his rear legs makes a huge difference, or that hitting Monster Y on the gills knocks them over eventually.

Oh trust me, if you have Evade+3, it gets crazy how much attacks will miss you. I've seen Lancers moving across areas with just a few backhops with Evade+3.

 

[Tenbatsu]

here's the flowchart for combo paths with the charge blade

lol the thing was so much simpler in MH4.

 

[windfish]

omg omg omg! Amazon order - preparing for dispatch
Is this real life?

 

[Mistouze]

omg omg omg! Amazon order - preparing for dispatch
Is this real life?

Country?

 

[windfish]

Country?

Germany

 

[Mistouze]

Germany

Thanks! Game is getting shipped left and right in Europe, good. Crossing my fingers to get mine thursday evening.

 

[popyea]

So no i-frames when rolling, and you have to commit to each attack, since once initiated, most attacks can't be canceled and will play out their animation unless interrupted by a monster's attack.

If each monster is only vulnerable to certain types of strikes, to certain places on their body, how do you come to learn what works? Trial and error? Consulting a wiki?

The moment to moment feel of fighting the monsters is very close fighting a boss in Dark Souls. There's a lot of extra stuff that comes into play once you start getting better, but at it's core it's still just pattern recognition and spacing. And just so you know, almost all attacks can have their recovery shortened by roll cancelling.

 

[yami4ct]

here's the flowchart for combo paths with the charge blade

Holy crap. That has to be the most complicated Monster Hunter melee weapon yet, right? Liked what I played of it in the demo, but don't think I'll pick it up because that complexity seems unmanageable for me. Probably going to continue to main Switch Axe for now and maybe pick up great-swording or hammering or something. Really want to learn gunning, but that stuff seems incomprehensible to me and tough to do Single Player (which is how I'd want to learn before moving online).

 

[Cosmo Clock 21]

Holy crap. That has to be the most complicated Monster Hunter melee weapon yet, right? Liked what I played of it in the demo, but don't think I'll pick it up because that complexity seems unmanageable for me.

It's my favorite weapon in the demo. The basic loops are easy enough to learn and are plenty effective, the only reason why that flowchart is so complicated is because unlike most weapons you can splice different parts of different loops together.

 

[Bleep]

That flowchart is a pretty awful way of showing how the charge blade works. It only appears so complicated because you have the option to cancel into various commands throughout the standard combos, like how in fighting games you can cancel special moves from normal moves.

Edit: Yikes, I should have refreshed before posting.

 

[Prototype]

Played GS in Tri
GS and Lance in 3 Ultimate

Thinking about picking up a new weapon for 4 Ultimate. Maybe Bow.

 

[toastyToast]

I've always hated using lance so I might give that another shot.

jk Charge Blade, son

 

[Condom]

haha, this is glorious, can't imagine how intimidating this is to a newcomer

Hell, it's intimidating to me. Will still go for it though, was playing 3rd on my PS3 and the hammer/GS routine was getting old.

 

[Pila]

Do I need the new 3DS for this or can I play it on my old XL with the big black docking dual stick station thingy that I have?

I've never played a Monster Hunter game, but these reviews are making my self-imposed boycott of the n3DS XL really hard to keep....

Guys, it works fine on the old 3DS. Framerate is so-so while hunting with other three people but it's not like you HAVE to buy the New 3DS. If you were OK with MH3U performances on the Wii U, you'll be fine here with the old 3DS. If you really miss the second stick, CPPs are there for you.

I kinda liked that troll review posted a few pages ago. Poor soul wanted to review such a deep, complicated game but it looks like he didn't even realized he can pause 3DS games hitting the Home button :'D he wastes like two paragraphs talking about the damn pause button, man...

 

[PranooY]

I had ordered a copy and am new to Monster Hunter series. Anything i should know? Does this have a Single player campaign or is it just hunting different monsters? Several reviews stated that this is the most approachable Monster Hunter game, So can i jump in and will the game explain all the mechanics? Or should i read a guide? Also it runs fine on the old 3DS XL, right?

 

[Fistwell]

Stuck at work, looking forward to friday. The wife emails me.

Hola

They have the game

Love you

\o/
COME ON WORKDAY BE OVER ALREADY!!!1!

Can we have a community thread already? Need some place to dump all these antiquated anachronistic friends codes in.

 

[aka_bueno]

I had ordered a copy and am new to Monster Hunter series. Anything i should know? Does this have a Single player campaign or is it just hunting different monsters? Several reviews stated that this is the most approachable Monster Hunter game, So can i jump in and will the game explain all the mechanics? Or should i read a guide? Also it runs fine on the old 3DS XL, right?

The single player is essentially just hunting monsters, it's what the Monster Hunter games are all about after all.

However, one of the main goals for MH4U, was to make this more approachable to newcomers. How they went about that is by, for the first time, adding a narrative to the single player element. So there is finally a campaign-like element to the series, with a story to follow. This also serves to teach newcomers the core and more advanced mechanics of the game. Instead of kinda half-assed front loading the game with boring quests and just throwing the player to the wolves with mechanics (an issue in previous entries), this new entry in the series uses the new narrative enhanced single player to introduce the mechanics and gameplay elements over time, little by little. Though be prepared to read a lot of dialogue chat, as that's the main method of info delivery.

All that said, don't go into this expecting an epic story-driven role playing experience, as that's not what Monster Hunter is about.

 

[Phazon]

A bit later than most sites, but here's my Dutch review:

http://www.4gamers.be/reviews/42518/1/Monster-Hunter-4-Ultimate

Did a quick translation of the conclusion

Monster Hunter 4: Ultimate really lives up to its name, because it's the ultimate game to hunt for tons of unique and interesting monsters. The fact that this time there's a complete online co-op mode for 4 players, makes it a big recommendation for anyone who wants to hunt together with some friends. The amount of improvement in combat, gameplay, pacing and the more interesting intro make the game a lot more accessible for newcomers too, but of course it's still a very time consuming game that will give most players a lot of challenge.

88/100

 

[co1onel]

So no i-frames when rolling, and you have to commit to each attack, since once initiated, most attacks can't be canceled and will play out their animation unless interrupted by a monster's attack.

If each monster is only vulnerable to certain types of strikes, to certain places on their body, how do you come to learn what works? Trial and error? Consulting a wiki?

You do have i-frames while rolling, the difference is that you can't just roll around and avoid attacks all day long. In order to roll through a monster's attack you have to time it just right and position yourself just right. You can even roll through things like roars if you can get the timing down.

Also, no, the game doesn't play anything like zelda.

 

[windfish]

Stuck at work, looking forward to friday. The wife emails me.

\o/
COME ON WORKDAY BE OVER ALREADY!!!1!

Can we have a community thread already? Need some place to dump all these antiquated anachronistic friends codes in.

lol yesterday I asked my gf if she could check a store for me since she is working close to it, her response was "for what?"... "Monster Hun..." - "Hell no!!!"
You are living my dream man!

 

[popyea]

lol yesterday I asked my gf if she could check a store for me since she is working close to it, her response was "for what?"... "Monster Hun..." - "Hell no!!!"
You are living my dream man!

 

[Herb Alpert]

LOL

I understand him though. Same situation for me.

 

[Fistwell]

"Hell no!!!"

lol your gf sounds like such a sweetheart.

And no, you can't have my wife, she's mine.

 

[windfish]

lol your gf sounds like such a sweetheart.

And no, you can't have my wife, she's mine.

Aw tough luck nah serious she just hates Monster Hunter with a passion, MH3U really put our relationship to the test
Fortunately for me we engaged a couple moons ago, just in time

 

[Jo Shishido's Cheeks]

My copy is here but my New 3DS doesn't come until tomorrow!

I'm gonna wait.
I can make it!
.....probably.

 

[Kane1345]

My copy is here but my New 3DS doesn't come until tomorrow!

I'm gonna wait.
I can make it!
.....probably.

Do you already have an original 3DS?

 

[Anura]

Oh trust me, if you have Evade+3, it gets crazy how much attacks will miss you. I've seen Lancers moving across areas with just a few backhops with Evade+3.

Yeah, evade+3 kind of breaks the game.

 

[Grim Patron]

A bit later than most sites, but here's my Dutch review:

http://www.4gamers.be/reviews/42518/1/Monster-Hunter-4-Ultimate

Did a quick translation of the conclusion



88/100

Thanks for this. Really regret passing on the 28 and 29.99 preorders on amazon now. :/

The online in the demo worked brilliantly as well for me.

 

[Phazon]

Thanks for this. Really regret passing on the 28 and 29.99 preorders on amazon now. :/

The online in the demo worked brilliantly as well for me.

Online is always a bit of a risk, since it can always suffer a bit under stress if tons of people will play it, but we'll have to see that. The actual system is good and fast enough with decent options, so that's already nice.

 

[Jo Shishido's Cheeks]

Do you already have an original 3DS?

Yeah but I wanted this to be my first game on the new model.
I'll stay strong!

 

[NewGame]

Also I should probably mention.

You guys need to transfer your old 3DS data to your new 3DS before you start playing.

It can be a really long transfer.

really.

really

long.

 

[glaurung]

Also I should probably mention.

You guys need to transfer your old 3DS data to your new 3DS before you start playing.

It can be a really long transfer.

really.

really

long.

What does it use for the transfer? Infrared?

 

[Mistouze]

Also I should probably mention.

You guys need to transfer your old 3DS data to your new 3DS before you start playing.

It can be a really long transfer.

really.

really

long.

This is why I bought a 16gb micro sd card, transfered all the data from my current 3DS onto it and inserted it into my current 3DS with an adapter. I'll be only transferring the licenses/swapping SD cards, downloading MH4U.

IF ALL GOES WELL.

 

[Fistwell]

Fuck all that shit, I created a new profile. My N3DS will be my MH4U machine, period.

 

[Herb Alpert]

Also I should probably mention.

You guys need to transfer your old 3DS data to your new 3DS before you start playing.

It can be a really long transfer.

really.

really

long.

It took me around 3hours and a half.
At one point you want to kill these pikmins.

 

[Phazon]

What does it use for the transfer? Infrared?

wifi

I just opted for the transfer of my account and settings, while doing a manual backup of the 27GB of files. Transfer took me 15 minutes, manual backup via pc 30-40 minutes

 

[Peru]

I did a limited transfer.. so I just redownload the software I own when I want to start using it on my n3ds.

 

[Kinsei]

So no i-frames when rolling, and you have to commit to each attack, since once initiated, most attacks can't be canceled and will play out their animation unless interrupted by a monster's attack.

If each monster is only vulnerable to certain types of strikes, to certain places on their body, how do you come to learn what works? Trial and error? Consulting a wiki?

You do get I-frames while dodging, but it's only 2 frames and at they're at the start of your dodge animation. You can't stop your attack animation mid attack, but it's important to know that you can roll to cancel out the recovery animations after you attack.

Weak points can be determined by the sound and look of an attack when it connects. Download the demo and see the difference for yourself. The weakpoint on the beginner monster is the head. As for bouncing off of certain areas, it's usually obvious and if not the first time you bounce you'll know that you need a higher level of sharpness to get through that specific part.

Don't worry about that flowchart, the charge blade is an exception not the rule due to being two weapons in one.

 

[razgriz417]

Hey guys help me please. Is it worth to get the collector's for $60 or get the standard edition with Felyne Pin for $28 (Preordered when price got low for a while, price guaranteed). I want to get the collector's but this month and the next are really busy and we'll probably spend A LOT of money

but I really want the collector's though... : I need to make a decision by tonight and cancel one of my preorderes

If you have gcu the cheapest version is at best buy. I cancelled my $29 Amazon standard preorder for the $34 (after Gcu) + $10 Gc at best buy.

 

[FlyingSaucer]

Actually, Gamekult (french) did that, scoring the game a 7 and outright calling some textures ugly in one paragraph (though the main corpus of the review says the game is amazing).

7 + Select'. Which is, given GK's history of slight hostility toward Monster Hunter, bloody amazing.

 

[LayLa]

in UK and just got my MH4 preorder delivered WHOOP WHOOP

 

[JimPanzer]

Ok, so I got the possibility to get an early EU copy of MH4U, but my n3DS won't arrive before friday. If I start MH4U now on my US 3DS via Regionthree can I continue with this save file on my new 3DS?

Basically I'm asking: is the save file completely on the cartridge or is is somehow bound to your system?

 

[Yoshi]

My colleague Max (mfauli) has written our review for Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate on Gaming-Universe.de, here is an English translation of the wrap-up:

Surprisingly, the most in-your-face innovations of MH4U are rather secondary. Most important is, those that haven´t been fond of the franchise won´t change their mind with this latest entry. Meanwhile, veterans can look forward to a true MonHun festival. More of everything, more or less subtle changes to existing weapon types, and a seamless online-experience. Both new weapon choices turn out to be fun, especially the acrobatic bug staff. No matter if you´re playing by yourself or with friends, it´s rare to see such a fully realized, meaty game.

Therefore "Extraordinary" for singleplayer and "Extraordinary/Milestone" for multiplayer

Extraordinary is a 9, Extraordinary/Milestone is a 9.5.

 

[NewGame]

Ok, so I got the possibility to get an early EU copy of MH4U, but my n3DS won't arrive before friday. If I start MH4U now on my US 3DS via Regionthree can I continue with this save file on my new 3DS?

Basically I'm asking: is the save file completely on the cartridge or is is somehow bound to your system?

I'm pretty sure save files are region locked... but I'm not sure how RegionThree works.

 

[ragevvorks]

in UK and just got my MH4 preorder delivered WHOOP WHOOP

Which retailer did you preorder from? D:

 

[Owensboro]

yeah would be cool if someone sets up a gaf mumble server or something.

TeamSpeak - because it's superior.

IP: mhclan.us.to
PW: mhclan

Sure, if you like sounding like you're talking through a tin can!

GAF Mumble is in this thread -- http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=399065&highlight=mumble. I think everyone uses the backup server now.

 

[LayLa]

Which retailer did you preorder from? D:

thegamecollection (via Rakuten for £27)

 

[flatearthpandas]

Pulled the trigger on this yesterday. Too late to get it by Friday, but $30 plus a $10 gift card at Best Buy is way too good to pass up for what should be a great game.

It would be cool if the reviews in the OP could be organized by score. I realize people get touchy about that and have seen people complain in other threads, but it really just makes it more organized and easier to read.