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Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate: Review Thread
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I just figured it was something else quick to loot during the "you killed a monster! Kicking you out in 60 seconds!" thing. Also, I never would have thought you can loot that since I usually have my weapon out when I'm running around one.
Man I hope the manual explains more of this game. I knew about the Mining, Butterflies, and Herbs but had no idea there were other things you could loot!
Most of you don't have the time to farm other stuff after the monster is dead.
Razzorn34
Member
Same. I haven't figured out what I want to do with my old Zelda XL yet. I have my wife using my original 3DS.
It's great that Monster Hunter is finally getting the critical praise in the West that it deserves. It's a fun game with a lot of value, depth, and love put into the game.
It's also amusing that Monster Hunter has been previously panned by critics and reviewers since Freedom Unite came out just like how another GAFer pointed out previously in the thread. But now, it's like Monster Hunter is gold and recently discovered.
It's also amusing that Monster Hunter has been previously panned by critics and reviewers since Freedom Unite came out just like how another GAFer pointed out previously in the thread. But now, it's like Monster Hunter is gold and recently discovered.
-tetsuo-
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"Elsewhere on your 3DS, controls fight with each other over jobs, and it rarely makes sense. For example, you cant use an item with your weapon drawn because the Use Item button is also the Attack button. Im willing to grant in this case that its hard to drink a potion with your hands full, but its also impossible to run with your weapon out because thats the Block button. And you cant harvest plants or animals either youll dodge instead."
DrROBschiz
Member
"Elsewhere on your 3DS, controls fight with each other over jobs, and it rarely makes sense. For example, you cant use an item with your weapon drawn because the Use Item button is also the Attack button. Im willing to grant in this case that its hard to drink a potion with your hands full, but its also impossible to run with your weapon out because thats the Block button. And you cant harvest plants or animals either youll dodge instead."
Sigh......
These poor poor people.
The missions are separate, but your level and gear can be used in either.
Thanks for the responses. I played MH3 on Wii U but didn't like it. Tried the demo for this one and it was much better. The quest part confused me because they are the same in sp and mp so i thought the progress will carry over to each mode regardless of what i choose.
DanteGhost
Member
But it is an actual flaw. I'm getting the game friday, but I'm aware of the nuances mentioned. There is no excuse for archaic controls in 2015, specially when similar games to MH don't have those issues.
Actually, Gamekult (french) did that, scoring the game a 7 and outright calling some textures ugly in one paragraph (though the main corpus of the review says the game is amazing).
So after checking out the weapons today I decided I was going to try the charge blade
I was a switch axe/SnS user in Tri and that weapon just look bad ass so I want to use this.
I found a 15 mins tutorial for the charge blade
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAWR6gqyIyw&src_vid=c16jJZUbyd4&feature=iv&annotation_id=annotation_769099637
I was a switch axe/SnS user in Tri and that weapon just look bad ass so I want to use this.
I found a 15 mins tutorial for the charge blade
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAWR6gqyIyw&src_vid=c16jJZUbyd4&feature=iv&annotation_id=annotation_769099637
Can confirm. Put in 150+ hours of game time and i'm still not close to done, nor do I feel like quitting. Top 5 games from last year for sure.
That said, i'm really glad MH4U is getting these scores, hope it sells well enough that it REALLY picks up steam in the US. I'd love for it to be huge here like it is in japan.
DrROBschiz
Member
Are you kidding me right now?
Its just how the game is built mechanically. You have certain controls when your weapon is sheathed and unsheathed
Its perfectly logical and sensible for the game and necessary for the game to have full controls avalilable
When the monster's icon is green, STABSTABSTAB with X. When the monster is getting agitated, its icon will turn red and move really fast if you STAB him. So, when the monster is getting GETTHEHELLOFFMYBACK, hold R to slow down the icon (which will turn orange). When the monster has calmed down, resume STAB.
DanteGhost
Member
That's like saying that a game like RE:Remake HD has good controls though. Yes, the game is built around them mechanically (
I love them
Edit: All I'm saying is that it is a fair critic, even if you or me disagree with it.
Fantastic scores! I've always been a bit of a MH fanboy and was disappointed in some of the Western reviews for MHFU, but I'm glad that journos have finally 'got' Monster Hunter. Hopefully these amazing reviews will translate into more sales, which in turn means more Monster Hunter games for everyone!
I had this pre-ordered and ended up cancelling because I didn't like the demo. Made it seem like each quest is chasing around a monster and trying to kills it using really clunky moves. Is there more to it that I didn't get from the demo? Exploring, dungeons, puzzles, story, towns I heard are in but are they just glorified stores? I really want something fresh for my new 3ds but I'm kinda hesitant toward grinding for loot kind of games, and I'm not sure I want to replay MM.
DrROBschiz
Member
??/????
What is not to get? Weapon out. Controls shift to controling weapon. Weapon Sheathed Controls shift to stuff not weapon related.
Its not even an apt comparison to Tank controls in RE
I feel like in this case, it's more of a conscious design decision in order to force you to decide WHEN to do certain things. Having to put up your weapon to heal, or harvest, or run makes those actions mean more, because if you try them at the wrong time you're gonna get slapped by the monster.
Arguing that it's an "actual flaw" is like arguing that not being able to pick up the ball in a game of Soccer with your hands is a flaw.
From what I can tell, you're supposed to be holding R whenever the little chomping head on the bottom of the screen turns red, which happens during roars and when the monster is thrashing around.
Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
That's not archaic if the game is balanced / totally designed around it. Sheathing and unsheathing your weapon has function therefore it's a meaningful action. There are entire armor skills that revolve around you sheathing and unsheathing your weapon, you're acting like it's an arbitrary limitation when it is in fact anything but.
That's like saying soccer is archaic in design because you can't use your hands except some times.
When the monster is enraged (the monster icon on the bar is red), hold R. You can stab away any time, but the monster's meter is going to fill up very quickly when enraged, so don't do that unless you know it will calm down or you will succeed first.
MatrixMan.EXE
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"Elsewhere on your 3DS, controls fight with each other over jobs, and it rarely makes sense. For example, you cant use an item with your weapon drawn because the Use Item button is also the Attack button. Im willing to grant in this case that its hard to drink a potion with your hands full, but its also impossible to run with your weapon out because thats the Block button. And you cant harvest plants or animals either youll dodge instead."
Jesus christ.
Cosmo Clock 21
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I thought people were smhing cause there are at least two pieces of factually incorrect information in that paragraph
DanteGhost
Member
I could say the same thing about RE HD though, the irony. Again I just think is a fair critic. It took me awhile to get used the controls in MH3U. It was really frustrating to say the least.
"Elsewhere on your 3DS, controls fight with each other over jobs, and it rarely makes sense. For example, you cant use an item with your weapon drawn because the Use Item button is also the Attack button. Im willing to grant in this case that its hard to drink a potion with your hands full, but its also impossible to run with your weapon out because thats the Block button. And you cant harvest plants or animals either youll dodge instead."
... which isn't even true to begin with
Pay attention to the meter with the icon on it. You want to be going ham on the monster when the meter is blue and you want to be holding R when it is yellow. When it turns red that mean you should be holding R but since you ain't the icon will climb up faster and you'll be tossed off the monsters back sooner. Oh and when the monster is going to roar and you mounted it squeeze that shoulder button
Always, ALWAYS mount monsters when they are tired.
"Elsewhere on your 3DS, controls fight with each other over jobs, and it rarely makes sense. For example, you cant use an item with your weapon drawn because the Use Item button is also the Attack button. Im willing to grant in this case that its hard to drink a potion with your hands full, but its also impossible to run with your weapon out because thats the Block button. And you cant harvest plants or animals either youll dodge instead."
surprised people have issue with the controls. its not really much more complicated than assassin's creed, or an old metal gear game.
"Elsewhere on your 3DS, controls fight with each other over jobs, and it rarely makes sense. For example, you cant use an item with your weapon drawn because the Use Item button is also the Attack button. Im willing to grant in this case that its hard to drink a potion with your hands full, but its also impossible to run with your weapon out because thats the Block button. And you cant harvest plants or animals either youll dodge instead."
Pathetic.
Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
You can just have R held down the whole time, but technically you only have to be holding it down when the monster head icon is red or yellow, which is when you're supposed to not be attacking.
MegaMelon
Member
To be fair, how would you even manage to map everything to the buttons available whilst having your weapon drawn? For some weapons it MAY be reasonable, but for many of them that have complex combos and uses, it's flat out impossible. For example, how would one integrate using items with the charge axe? Both triggers are used up, as is the 4 abxy weapons. MAYBE using start/select or something...but that would be ridiculous.
DanteGhost
Member
Oh for fuck sake, that's completely untrue though. It took me hours to get used MH contols mechanics and timing, it takes minutes to get used to the control of Assassins Creed or Metal Gear.
I would say it will probably take around 10-20 hours for a new player to get a good grip of the gameplay mechanics. Honestly, once you learn the game it is really hard to put down. I would urge you to give it another shot - I haven't played the demo so I don't know what monsters are in it, but the later monsters make for some exhilarating fights.
bob_la_blaw
Member
is there any review that explain if there is better framerate on the new 3ds?
DrROBschiz
Member
For those who are worried about USING Items unsheathed...
Sword and Shield lets you do just that
When did people stop trying to learn games that are different than what they have played before
Sword and Shield lets you do just that
When did people stop trying to learn games that are different than what they have played before
All the reasons for smh are valid.
DanteGhost
Member
I get your point, I'm just saying I can see why someone my dislike the controls. I'm not trying to bash the game. I'm hyped for the game.
ShadowgeistX
Member
You can actually just go ahead and hold R all the time even while stabbing, just don't stab while the monster is freaking out or roaring (red icon for both).
My shipment better go out on time ffs. =|
the problem there was not exactly the controls, but not knowing how the games mechanic works, it's like whining because mario can't jump twice
That issue of not being able to use items while weapon is drawn is not a matter of obtuse controls it's a matter of balance. It's very much intentional and furthermore there's a weapon that allows you to use items while it is drawn anyways.
MegaMelon
Member
Yeah that's reasonable, everyone should be allowed to like or dislike a mechanic regardless of whatever someone else thinks. I do feel that not being able to use items with weapons out (aside from sword and shield) adds another layer of complexity that's not awfully difficult to get used to once you master a weapon and learn to see a monsters movements. God I can't contain my hype, if only amazon would change to shipped or even preparing delivery.
MrCaliaztec
Member
No voice chat at all? Seems one of the reviews had that as a con. Was he hopefully mistake or will this honestly not have any voice communication that seems like a really big missing feature.
really? felt there was many parallels with asscreed games. You have different 'profiles' with different buttons mapped. Didn't say it was easy, but it did take me a bit to figure out asscreed when 1 first came out.
And I still am god awful with the controls in MGS2-3. Especially when you are trying to shoot in 1st person while peeking on the fly.
You really don't need voice chat beside social stuff.