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Honestly, if there was gonna be some big East meets West Capcom & Netherealm collab, I'd rather have Marvel vs DC.
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Mortal Kombat vs Street Fighter - The Time is Right
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katsubento
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Yeah, no thanks. This isn't chocolate and peanut butter. They are really not a good match.
Though I don't want to go down this rabbit hole again, I'll only say that Capcom's model is not NRS' model. They want to grow their game as an esport, sell continuous DLC and support one game for 5-6 years. In which time NRS will likely produce and release 3 games, have them all sell a bunch to casual fans who will stop playing them soon thereafter.
This is still West meets West.
West in the sense of Western IP that appeals to the console and western PC audience.
Crankshaft
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After Street Fighter x Tekken I'm not too enthused about crossover fighting games anymore.
Strangelove77
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Was Lobo super popular at the time or was Wolverine jobbing?
What? Why would Capcom be involved in this project? They don't have exclusive rights for a Marvel fighting and WB/DC has it's own fighting game studio. They'd just go to NRS.
RedAssedApe
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naw...fanboy in me would be down for a vs. game with dragonball though XD
You weren't a fan of Dengeki Bunko Fighting Climax?
I assume because no MvC fan wants to see NRS touch it.
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Because Capcom's the only studio to make good Marvel fighting games and is IP is pretty much irrevocably tied to them in the eyes of the gaming community at this point.
But that's irrelevant when an NRS game is still gonna outsell anything Capcom puts out.
You really think this matters? DC vs Marvel by NRS would be the best selling fighter of all time. DC has it's own internal fighting game studio, why would they want a middleman?
EYEL1NER
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Mortal Kombat has been going further and further with their violence, to the point where some people were asking here on GAF last year upon seeing trailers for the latest game if they had taken things too far, and saying that some of the fatalities were stomach-churning. You are correct that they toned things down for the DC crossover game, but you even admitted yourself in your OP that Mortal Kombat vs DC wasn't good. I don't think MK vs DC is anything they should be aspiring to replicate again.
Street Fighter is and has been extremely goofy in-game. The SF animated movie had some violence in it but it doesn't cross over to the games. And I don't know what artwork from Marvel comic books and footage from an Activision game about a Marvel character have to do with how Capcom wants the characters they own portrayed.
They don't mesh and one side would have to compromise quite a bit.
spazchicken
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That was just a strange combination to begin with.
But I don't want to see SF vs MK.
Fundamentally all the fighting games have that timeless feel with controlling space and having a flow of battle.
Mortal Kombat needs a block button because they use teleport mechanics that would be broken with back to block controls.
I don't know much about fighting games but if you can't see some really obvious design decisions and similarities you shouldn't have bothered making such a sanctimonious post and prove you have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to game design.
Anyway regarding the main idea of your post it would be cool to see happen but we saw what happened with Street Fighter X Tekken.
The mistakes made with that game that also led to the abortion of Tekken X Street Fighter should be avoided.
Considering how differently input controls are treated in both franchises from buffered commands to string inputs, in addition to that block button, it's going to be hard to satisfy fans who will argue a bastard child of both games wouldn't feel right.
Again, there exists a kid-friendly animated Mortal Kombat universe and multiple bloody Street Fighter adaptations. Heck, I'm old enough to remembers the bloodied, swollen, bruised, cut, and pummeled loser faces from Street Fighter 2. Remember those?
The point is SF has rubbed elbows with plent of M-rated characters before, not that SF should mimic their violence itself. MK would have to tone it down, but they've done that repeatedly over and over throughout the years.
it'll be interesting to see what they do with Marvel Vs Capcom Infinite.
Both games have these elements, but they emphasize different things. No need to be a dick about it. I play all fighting games and all of them have common elements.
Injustice 2 has teleports and you hold back to block. It works.
And SFxT is a good game. The gem system and DLC fiasco hurt it, but in no universe is it a bad game.
TheSpaceBetween
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As much as this is a fan's wet dream, Street Fighter x Tekken is a much better mashup. What they should do is MK x Killer Instinct.
Like it's been said above, the likeliest scenario will be both companies making their own versions of the games. You'd get a Street Fighter style game with MK characters and MK style game with Street Fighter characters.
Seriously though, stories in fighting games (especially crossover fighting games) is such a wasted effort that there's really no point. You're not going to get anything that's not utterly stupid. See: every fighting game since 1991.
spazchicken
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Why aren't there any digitized games anymore? I would LOVE an HD or 4K, 60+ FPS Pit-Fighter. I just want to see with my own eyes how far that particular technology has come.
EYEL1NER
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Kid-friendly Mortal Kombat cartoons from decades ago don't seem to be the direction Netherrealm is currently taking the series. And like I said, they have been getting more violent and more gory with each MK game post-MK vs DC. Pics of Ken with a split lip and black eyes and bruises that are also from decades ago don't compare at all with what Netherrealm is currently doing with their MK games. And Wolverine isn't holding Ryu's body up to helicopter blades so he can be decaptiated in MvC3, so I still don't know what media from other companies featuring characters that don't belong to Capcom have to do with anything. It guess there was a pic of Chris Redfield mixed in there too, but I don't recall his Desert Eagle causing Ken's head to explode when he gets shot with it in MvC. So yeah, Capcom had characters that can get down with violence and gore, but even they were toned down and neutered for games where they mixed it up with SF characters.
There is a MK fan base in Japan, now it's mainly made up of casuals but it's there.
The recent games aren't released because they're too violent for CERO.
You can buy import NA copies of MKX in Akihabara for example.
LOL i wonder how the story would even go? It would just end up with all the Street Fighter characters dead because they are wimps except Akuma.
Chun Li and Cammy are wimps compared to Sonya Blade and she could easily wipe both of them out. You think i am kidding? Go watch Death Battle.
Chun Li and Cammy are wimps compared to Sonya Blade and she could easily wipe both of them out. You think i am kidding? Go watch Death Battle.
Finaika
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Is Injustice 2 big in Japan?
NoctisVsStar
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Nah, I'll pass just doesn't gel well.
thekonamicode
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Not in 1000 years, no.
Galactic Specter
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Great post, you clearly put a lot of thought into it and found a good balance
As much as I enjoy Mortal Kombat, I'd love to see Capcom's take on MK characters in their gameplay system.
As much as I enjoy Mortal Kombat, I'd love to see Capcom's take on MK characters in their gameplay system.
Eh, story wouldn't really matter. You can make up any plot to justify the crossover. Some games don't even explain things (like MVC2).
Also, while yeah, you probably won't see most SF characters killing folks, it's not like every MK character goes around killing folks in the Story Modes either. MK9 was really bad about fighting the same few villains multiple times.
Though I actually doubt they'd kill off anyone in a MKvSF crossover
I'd rather have something good, like Street Fighter Vs. Breakers Revenge.
But I'd accept a Street Fighter Vs. Mortal Kombat that played like this.
But I'd accept a Street Fighter Vs. Mortal Kombat that played like this.
On topic, I don't think I'll ever not feel weird about a SFvsMK game. About the only reason I'd ever want to see one is to see how Capcom handles the MK cast (part of why I liked SFxT is seeing how they handled the Tekken cast, which moves and costumes they went for etc.)
Somehow that feels even less fitting than SF vs MK.
Thinking about it, some of the Darkstalkers characters could work (Lord Raptor, Anakaris, Jedah, Demitri). Not sure how Netherrealm would feel about having fatalities work on a young character like Bulleta though
Somehow that feels even less fitting than SF vs MK.
Thinking about it, some of the Darkstalkers characters could work (Lord Raptor, Anakaris, Jedah, Demitri). Not sure how Netherrealm would feel about having fatalities work on a young character like Bulleta though
Prototype Viktor
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Oddly enough Tekken wins that fight
SargerusBR
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Put CAPCOM to work on the gameplay and NRS on the story. Win-Win.
Nah, MK v. Darkstalkers is the one that works. MK v. Street Fighter would be awful.
To quote myself from here:
To add to that, NRS already has a game that uses a lifebar system similar to DS.
They don't mesh well interms of gameplay, infact they're likely on opposite ends. It's like oil and water. Also even tho DS is pretty violent, it has a very cartoony style.