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Most overrated/underrated PSP/DS games
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FeedMeAStrayCat
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jarrod said:
Feel the Magic is my choice as well. By no means a bad game, there's just nothing great or really that fun about it overall. Still decent though.
tsp_gatmog
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Underrated PSP:
AC!D
Overrated:
Everything i've played has been rated accordingly, aside from ac!d
AC!D
Overrated:
Everything i've played has been rated accordingly, aside from ac!d
I would say Lumines is not overrated. Everyone seems to praise it, but its not like anyone is throwing perfect score at it. It is still only 90 percent or so on gamerankings, and its definitely one of the best puzzle games IMO.
I would say Wipeout is pretty overrated. I play it now and then, feels like a futuristic kart racer.
I would say Wipeout is pretty overrated. I play it now and then, feels like a futuristic kart racer.
tsp_gatmog
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-jinx- said:
that's why other people are opining.
MassiveAttack
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jarrod said:
jarrod +1
HOW THE HELL DO YOU THINK WARIOWARE IS UNDERATED????Soul4ger said:
I play that game any time I have spare time. You can play for 5 minutes at a time, or hours at a time. WarioWare is the video game form of crack. I've logged more than 15 hours on it and I still haven't beat it. There are so many little things to do, with all the micro- and mini-games, that it never gets old. Just because there is no point to it doesn't mean it's overated! Anyway, isn't the point of video games to entertain you? What do you think WarioWare does? It is perhaps the best portable game of all time! True, it isn't a good console game, but on the DS it's golden.
theREBELins
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Overrated: Wipeout
Underrated: I dunno, Ridge Racer? I haven't played a ton of PSP games yet
Underrated: I dunno, Ridge Racer? I haven't played a ton of PSP games yet
Wellington
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I think Lumines is overrated. Challenge mode zaps at least an hour of your time if you are any good at the game. Even with sleep mode it kind of sucks since you're not going to be in the same groove you were in when you were playing before.
Wipeout is good, but probably slightly overrated.
I haven't played more than maybe an hour of Mario 64DS and maybe two of Wario Ware Touched so I will reserve judgement.
Wipeout is good, but probably slightly overrated.
I haven't played more than maybe an hour of Mario 64DS and maybe two of Wario Ware Touched so I will reserve judgement.
I want to punch each and everyone of you saying Ac!d is underrated.......... still bitter about that POS.
anywho
DS
Overrated- Mr. Driller Drill Spirits
Underrated - umm. can't think of one
PSP
Overrated- Metal Gear Ac!d (by anyone who rates it higher than a 1.0)
Underrated- Dynasty Warriors
anywho
DS
Overrated- Mr. Driller Drill Spirits
Underrated - umm. can't think of one
PSP
Overrated- Metal Gear Ac!d (by anyone who rates it higher than a 1.0)
Underrated- Dynasty Warriors
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DS
Underrated: Polarium (I'll probably take some flack for this though...), Euro Mr Driller
Nothing that I have (wario, mario, yoshi, polarium, driller) seems overrated to me so far.
PSP: I've only played lumines, but that game is some hot shit I think it's rated fairly.
Underrated: Polarium (I'll probably take some flack for this though...), Euro Mr Driller
Nothing that I have (wario, mario, yoshi, polarium, driller) seems overrated to me so far.
PSP: I've only played lumines, but that game is some hot shit I think it's rated fairly.
Well, it's when you personally think the general consuesus is "off". "Overrated" being in the game's favor, "underrated" being against it.-jinx- said:
I'll go into more detail after I've had some more time with them, these are just my gut reactions.
From the board I was expecting Lumines to be the definitive "drop" puzzler, topping Tetris, Puyo, Magical Drop, Puzzle Fighter, Panel de Pon and everything else. So far for me it's falling way short of any of them.... nice music/interface though.
I was expecting Feel the Magic to be a quirky Wario Ware alternative with some nice presentation. This game is a total mess though so far, clearly all the UGA talent jumped ship with Miz. This game is downright bad.
On the other hand I'm finding Zoo Keeper almost infinitely replayable and Untold Legends totally addictive. I was expecting both to be "nothing special" but they're both pretty darn solid games actually, perfectly suited to each handheld.
Are you serious? I suppose I could see how someone might feel that way, but damn, it's still shocking to read.
I didn't really "get it" at first either, but now I can't get enough. I've put an incredible number of hours into the game. Absolutely love it. It has become my favorite puzzler of all time, even topping the classics.
What is your high score, jarrod?
Opinions are opinions. What can I say? I like the game and many others do as well.
Baron Aloha
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PSP Overrated: Wipeout Pure
PSP Underrated: Darkstalkers Chronicle: The Chaos Tower
DS Overrated: Feel the Magic XX/YY
DS Underrated: Nothing
PS. Lumines is definitely NOT overrated.
PSP Underrated: Darkstalkers Chronicle: The Chaos Tower
DS Overrated: Feel the Magic XX/YY
DS Underrated: Nothing
PS. Lumines is definitely NOT overrated.
I haven't played PSP, so I'll only do DS. Only DS games I've played are Feel the Magic, Zoo Keeper and Tiger Woods.
Overrated DS: Feel the Magic, I expected more from this game. Cool presentation, but the quality of the minigames is very fluctuating.
Underrated DS: Can't think of any...Zoo Keeper is nice but not much more than that. A way to keep me puzzle-busy while waiting for better puzzle games to arrive. So I don't consider it underrated really. And since I got Kururin Paradise recently, I'd rather play that instead (and yes, I partly consider it a puzzle game).
Overrated DS: Feel the Magic, I expected more from this game. Cool presentation, but the quality of the minigames is very fluctuating.
Underrated DS: Can't think of any...Zoo Keeper is nice but not much more than that. A way to keep me puzzle-busy while waiting for better puzzle games to arrive. So I don't consider it underrated really. And since I got Kururin Paradise recently, I'd rather play that instead (and yes, I partly consider it a puzzle game).
Offhand, I think it's around 60k. I've only sunk in an hour or two though.dark10x said:
I dunno, I'm just not finding the block switch/rhythm line mechanic as engaing as some "purer" drop puzzlers like Magical Drop 3 or Tetris Attack. It's fun, refined and resposive, plus the aesthetics are unmatched for the genre... but the core of Lumines just doesn't scream "definitive puzzle game".
Maybe I need to give it more time, but so far Lumines seems to have a case of "Miz sydrome" (aesthetics being the primary draw over game design). That's been pretty much all his games since he moved out of racers though imo.
Pack of Wild Rats
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jarrod said:
That would be why you think it's overrated.
PSP: Overrated:Wipeout Pure
Underrated: Untold Legends/Ridge Racer by some magazines I've read
DS: Overrated: Feel The Magic
Underrated: Yoshi (only played it for a little while though)
MAYBE? No, definitely. You haven't even scratched the surface yet. If you're only scoring 60k, you pretty much don't know how to play. The game is a lot deeper than you'd think. The mechanics are brilliant, but do take more time to fully come to grips with.
Why are you passing judgement so early?
Once you've seen the "Lights", come back with a report...
Underrated:
PSP - Mingol (HSG). Possibly the best game on the PSP, and it got swamped at Japanese launch with Ridger Racers, and the US launch is pretty quiet.
DS - Chokkan hitofude (one line puzzle?). puzzle mode is perfect to pass the time, and gives me the same vibes as chu chu rocket.
Overrated
PSP - Ridge Racers. Its great, but once you get a certain distance into it, it starts getting stupidly fast and the slides go all crazy. Takes the sheen off really. Haven't played Lumines but it might have been a candidate (not my kind of thing)
DS - Project Rub! kind of cute, but too short and easy. Warioware for not being as good as twisted!
PSP - Mingol (HSG). Possibly the best game on the PSP, and it got swamped at Japanese launch with Ridger Racers, and the US launch is pretty quiet.
DS - Chokkan hitofude (one line puzzle?). puzzle mode is perfect to pass the time, and gives me the same vibes as chu chu rocket.
Overrated
PSP - Ridge Racers. Its great, but once you get a certain distance into it, it starts getting stupidly fast and the slides go all crazy. Takes the sheen off really. Haven't played Lumines but it might have been a candidate (not my kind of thing)
DS - Project Rub! kind of cute, but too short and easy. Warioware for not being as good as twisted!
Well, that's the disclaimer I posted initially... things might change after awhile. I've got both these machines on loan with a few games, so I haven't put too much time into anything yet. However Lumines just isn't grabbing me off the bat like other puzzlers have... it's not an issue of depth, but rather engagement. It's a great puzzler sure, just not the definitive puzzler I was lead to believe. It's overrated, which is basically the Miz track record since Sega Rally 1 imo.dark10x said:
As you discover the depth, you become engaged. Right now, you don't understand the play mechanics (that's pretty obvious). When you do, perhaps you will see what others have been raving about. Initially, I too was not blown away. However, when I finally started to "get it", I couldn't stop playing. I started seeing blocks in my dreams...
To me, it is THE definitive puzzler. No question.
The way you keep bringing up Miz makes me wonder if you've formed an opinion based on other factors as well. Be honest now, if this was called "Goemon's Puzzle-time" or "The Legend of Zelda - Majora's Puzzle", you'd be all over it...or at least more willing to give it a fair shot.
Fair enough, I am going to give it more time. But I also feel "the definitive puzzle game" should be able to grab you off the bat, like Puzzle Bobble or Tetris originally did. It shouldn't demand a KAR level of investment to "see the lights" so to speak.dark10x said:
And again, these are just gut reactions. Don't take it too personally if I disrespect your sacred cow.
Well, the Miz thing seems to be a pattern more than anything. I like his games and I always go in excited and hoping for the best... but the hype hasn't really been met ever since UGA formed imo. I like Rez a lot too, but at it's core it's not the definitive rail shooter either, it's just a solid game elevated by fantastic presentation. That's what Lumines strikes me as too... I dunno, maybe I just want Miz to make another racing game.dark10x said:The way you keep bringing up Miz makes me wonder if you've formed an opinion based on other factors as well. Be honest now, if this was called "Goemon's Puzzle-time" or "The Legend of Zelda - Majora's Puzzle", you'd be all over it...or at least more willing to give it a fair shot.
Expectations definitely come into play but that works both ways. I'm sure it's no coincidence most people hailing Lumines as the next Tetris overwhelmingly happen to be staunch PlayStation fans... I doubt this game would've gotten quite the same reaction as a DS title. It'd likely be swept aside and ridiculed by Drinky for being a simple puzzle/minigame.
jarrod said:
agreed. minigame collections are the pits, but there's still a world of difference between wario ware and feel the magic. i suppose it's typical for launch games to be overrated, but i don't know why ds owners didn't blow the whistle on this fraud.
The need to cling to something probably. Looking back, the DS launch was wretched... easily the worst launch lineup ever imo. Mario 64 DS is really the only thing worth owning, and even that has it's annoyances (subpar analog substitutes, botched particle effects, multiplayer feels rushed, etc). I'm totally glad I'm waiting it out a bit.drohne said:
Kung Fu Jedi
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Not sure about over rated PSP games, as I've enjoyed all the games I've picked up from my PSP so far. For Underrated, I'd go with Untold Legends. I nearly passed on the game based on reviews, but decided to give it a go any way. I'm glad I did. Up until I finished it, it was easily my most played PSP game. I picked up Hot Shots Golf this morning, so I'm guessing this will change soon. 
I can understand being underwhelmed by Lumines at first. I know I was. It took my quite a bit of play to start to pick up on it's nuances. I got the whole spin the block, drop into place, make the blocks disappear thing right away, but couldn't understand why it was rated so highly. However, I did find myself continuing to come back to it. It was a great pick up and play game for short sessions. The more I played, the more I started to figure things out. I started linking up the colors and using the special blocks to knock out huge chuncks of blocks. I started to see how to work the pieces together and how to build towers and bring them town efficiently. It all just started to click. Now my short game sessions seem to go on forever. Also, I started to see the nuances of the different "levels". For instance, the time line moves differently depending on where you are at in the game, and some of the color schemes are easier, at least for me, to see the patterns in. I still don't have everything figured out, but the game is great. To me, Tetris is still the "definitive" puzzle game, but Lumines is damn close, and imho offers more depth.
I can understand being underwhelmed by Lumines at first. I know I was. It took my quite a bit of play to start to pick up on it's nuances. I got the whole spin the block, drop into place, make the blocks disappear thing right away, but couldn't understand why it was rated so highly. However, I did find myself continuing to come back to it. It was a great pick up and play game for short sessions. The more I played, the more I started to figure things out. I started linking up the colors and using the special blocks to knock out huge chuncks of blocks. I started to see how to work the pieces together and how to build towers and bring them town efficiently. It all just started to click. Now my short game sessions seem to go on forever.
Also, I started to see the nuances of the different "levels". For instance, the time line moves differently depending on where you are at in the game, and some of the color schemes are easier, at least for me, to see the patterns in. I still don't have everything figured out, but the game is great. To me, Tetris is still the "definitive" puzzle game, but Lumines is damn close, and imho offers more depth.If it had been released as is, I'm sure it would have. Even those who have been generally very anti-DS aren't afraid to praise certain titles. The problem is, the game likely would have been different on the DS. Tailored to match that Nintendo "feel" that some people don't care for. Perhaps that's an unfair statement (and a bit broad), but in general, that really does seem to be the case.
You really think so? I dunno, I just get the feeling it would've been swept aside along with Polarium, Meteos, Zoo Keeper and all the other DS puzzlers... acknowledged as a good game and quickly forgotten among the griping for "real" games to show up. Certainly the same crowd wouldn't be crowing about it however, I sincerely doubt anyone would be calling it the "definitive" anything. Well, except the Miz groupies.dark10x said:
Er, now you've lost me. "Nintendo feel"? Seems I'm not the only one giving unfair shakes.dark10x said:
radioheadrule83
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I think FTM:XX/XY is the title most nearing anything like "over-rated" that I own... but that's only if I consider certain reviews and opinions. I was actually cautioned quite a lot when getting my DS, that it's a bit on the short side. I'd welcome a bigger, better sequel.
The rest of my small DS library is something I'm very pleased with. All very pick up and play, and yeah they're often easy to put down too, but it's exactly what I wanted at the time. I'm looking foreward to more deep DS titles of course. Can't wait to see whats at E3 for it.
No PSP. Europe
The rest of my small DS library is something I'm very pleased with. All very pick up and play, and yeah they're often easy to put down too, but it's exactly what I wanted at the time. I'm looking foreward to more deep DS titles of course. Can't wait to see whats at E3 for it.
No PSP. Europe
Er, not necessairly. The core of Lumines could be done as is on the original Game Boy and there's plenty of DS titles not taking advantage of it's unique interfaces. But here, I'll amend my statement to "I doubt this game would've gotten quite the same reaction as a GBA title."Gattsu25 said:
Which when you get down to it, are precisely what elevate Lumines above the pack. Solid game, fantastic presentation. Rez 2.0.Gattsu25 said:
There ya go. It's a very solid game that is deeper than most puzzle games, offers much more content, and is wrapped in an incredible presentation. I dunno, that sounds like a perfect recipe for a great puzzler.
It's similar to REZ, but REZ really always DID feel like nothing more than an experience to me. I enjoyed it, but there was nothing about the gameplay that I wanted to really master. Not the case with Lumines...
Still, enough talk about Lumines. Once you've put more time into the game and actually know what you are doing, then we'll talk. Oh, and no, it doesn't require you to invest "60 hours" to figure out.
MrPing1000
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every1 on here seems to love zoo keeper, I don't see the big deal, seems pretty lacking in things to do imo
jarrod said:
the presentation is what sells it the most imo. Great tunes, great skins. I didn't understanding the silly (before) raving about skins ... yeah.. til I got the game... Its brilliant.
The game is stupendously good. To be honest, the 1st week... I was like "THIS?~!!" what the fuck is GAF on about. Thank god I was banned for a week when I got my PSP... I think its the best PSP game I own now.
jarrod said:
the core gameplay behind nearly every tetris-alike could be done in a ASCII terminal...I don't see why you mention this...regardless of the 1-2 pixel wide blocks that would be needed to pull off lumines on the original GB :b
Lumines is a sound and fun tetris-alike that IS aided by it's awesome presentation...though it's unfair to pass judgement on the sound so quickly
...when I play lumines I play with the audio in mind...the game sometimes halts itself waiting for you to get a combo just so it can reach the climax of a song...the gameplay is directly (unlike Rez) and indirectly affected by the music in numerous ways...this game strives for a different goal that Rez did...Rez was a game that influenced the music and lumines is the opposite
unlike Rez, though...Lumines is based off of a gameplay-style that is nearly timeless. The game's damn good, sounds great, and draws you in unlike any other tetris-alike before it...don't be suprised if more than a few people like the thing :b
And it is a great puzzler. But it's not the "definitive" puzzler I was lead to believe, hence the "overrated".dark10x said:
This might have to do with genres though. In general I think rail shooters are almost by design less engaging than puzzlers. Rez was very playable, with a very solid game engine... I think it's exactly the same case with Lumines.dark10x said:
Honestly, I'm not too interested in the game at this point and the thread isn't helping either (dissmissive "you just don't get it" responses and such). I'm finding Untold Legends a much better time waster anyway (not to mention Ridge Racer & Dynasty Warriors) and if I get a hankering for some handheld puzzlers, there's plenty of more immediately satisfying options to turn to. Sorry Lumines.dark10x said:
I don't see it either. It's not a bad game (though it's just a clone of Bejeweled), but for me personally, it's the type of puzzle game I don't like. Mental thing, I suppose. The whole "full field" thing really gets to me. It's not necessarily difficult or anything, it just feels annoying.
Honestly, I'm not a huge puzzle game fan. I wasn't even really interested in Lumines a whole lot at first. Ridge Racers was much more exciting. However, I gave it a chance, and it turned out to be one of the most enjoyable games I have played in a while.
Ah, so it isn't even about the game...
Still, that kinds sucks. I didn't mean to deprive you of such a good experience.