Motorstorm Apocalypse Review thread
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/facepalm at some of the rubberbanding complaints. It's a design decision because the Motorstorm series is supposed to be about the rough and tumble and constantly jostling for position. If you don't like that kind of game then Motorstorm isn't for you, get over it. It's not because Evolution are lazy or incompetent devs FFS.
Also I'm pretty surprised at the criticism of the graphics, I thought it looked great.
Also I'm pretty surprised at the criticism of the graphics, I thought it looked great.
I would probably have less issues with the rubberbanding if the game didn't consistently punish me in the later levels (assuming difficulty is similar to Pacific Rift). The game is fun and the overall graphics usually are impressive but I've always found the game to be a tad bit slow in terms of controls and sense of speed. When you hit your turbo it should be like Burnout where you actually see and feel a difference. Still interested in checking the game out though.
lowrider007
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You guys that are saying the game is slow in terms of the sense of speed are you playing the game in third person or bumper view? becuase in bumper view the game feels very fast.
Yeah I must of admit I was a bit disappointed in that, I think a bit more motion blur could of done wonders for this game.
-PXG- said:
Yeah I must of admit I was a bit disappointed in that, I think a bit more motion blur could of done wonders for this game.
ElRenoRaven
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So I bit the bullet and created a Euro PSN account. I must say after playing the demo that it's damn fun. The one thing about this one is that in the car I without a doubt have to ram a lot to remotely stand a chance of winning. I don't remember it being as required before.
first 15min
http://www.eurogamer.pt/videos/15-mins-com-motorstorm-apocalypse
wow, i kinda like the character story, beats just selecting a track and vehicle, i have GT5 for that, looks like there will be varied tracks
http://www.eurogamer.pt/videos/15-mins-com-motorstorm-apocalypse
wow, i kinda like the character story, beats just selecting a track and vehicle, i have GT5 for that, looks like there will be varied tracks
marathonfool
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No issues with the A.I. I really sucked it up on my first two tries, but somehow came in 2nd both times. The third time I drove a fairly clean race and got 1st easily. Although, it does feel like the final lap has the most impact because of all the falling debris.
Mylene
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Just uploaded a gameplay video from the demo, way too much fun. I think motorstorm is pretty much the antithesis of GT5 and that's a good thing!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np20RdsfH6I&hd=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np20RdsfH6I&hd=1
Rubber banding is one of the worst things to happen to racing games in recent memory. The A.I. shouldn't be able to do things that I cannot do. It drives me crazy when I pull out in the front and stay there for well over half the race only to have some car with an invisible rocket booster just blow through everything leading up to the finish line.
sillentassasin
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I wonder if the reviewers are considering the 3D functionality. I remember playing this at E3 last year and the 3D tech (in alpha mind you) was phenomenal. Also was very fun to play... of course we wont know until they test it out on a 3D TV
Appollowexx
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Coming off playing the demo earlier I must say I'm surprised at how unimpressive it felt. The handling of the cars (Didn't try the bike) didn't feel as sharp as the previous two games. You could respawn and insta-crash, which was pretty annoying. The destruction was fairly simplistic and didn't feel wellplaced or natural at all. There wasn't all that much of it either. The people on the road that you could run over had bad physics and felt like an unnecessary gimmick. Graphically it looked ok, nothing special, about the same as Split Second - although that game felt far slicker. Oh and loading times were pretty long.
Felt like a solid 7/10 game. Could be a fun rent or bargin bin buy possibly.
I'm dissapointed though as I feel the series has decreased ever so slightly in quality from game to game. The first one was so much fun; such a gem of a launch title.
That's some nice, clean looking HD footage man. What do you use to capture from PS3 if you don't mind me asking - Intensity Pro? What set up do you have? Thanks!
Felt like a solid 7/10 game. Could be a fun rent or bargin bin buy possibly.
I'm dissapointed though as I feel the series has decreased ever so slightly in quality from game to game. The first one was so much fun; such a gem of a launch title.
Mylene said:
That's some nice, clean looking HD footage man. What do you use to capture from PS3 if you don't mind me asking - Intensity Pro? What set up do you have? Thanks!
DeadRockstar
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Man I really wish I could try a different track. Just wasn't feeling the one in the demo at all. Maybe it's the setting or something. I really loved the PR setting; mud, waterfalls, greenery and all that. The demo track is pretty bland and like I said before, tame.
I want to believe the full game is better.
I want to believe the full game is better.
BoilersFan23
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PR used the worst/blandest course in the demo, which turned people off (despite the full game being much better).DeadRockstar said:
NullPointer
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A lot of racers tend to have truly shitty demos.BoilersFan23 said:
Looks like this is going to be another under rated MS. It shows by looking at how many people in this thread alone, say the first motorstorm was the best. Pacific Rift bettered it in every possible way and yet people still don't like it. Same thing seems to be happening to Apocalypse.
From playing all of the Motorstorm's it's clear that there is no way to get an accurate representation of the full game through a demo. Both PR and Apocalypse have so much variety in tracks and cars you simply cannot say whether it is good or not based on one track and two vehicles.
From playing all of the Motorstorm's it's clear that there is no way to get an accurate representation of the full game through a demo. Both PR and Apocalypse have so much variety in tracks and cars you simply cannot say whether it is good or not based on one track and two vehicles.
Dibbz said:
I have played all three games quite extensively now and I love the series. I would rate Pacific Rift as the best and then I guess it's a tie between the first one and Apocalypse. It is actually true that the rubberbanding is more noticable and more annoying in Apocalypse, also because the collision detection is quite bad in this one and track design is worse than the earlier games as well. Graphics are great, some tracks are really spectacular, but the pure core is just a bit worse than Pacific Rift. Deal with it.
~Devil Trigger~
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aha, awesome intro(gameplay part not the story)darkwing said:
Mesijs said:
Hm, could you elaborate on this a bit? I replayed MS1 today and I didn't remember the AI to be THAT annoying. But it is. How much worse is MS:A in compraison?
How is the track design worse? What's with different routes? How would you rate the demo track? Is it any different in the retail version?
Part of the problem for me is that the courses, hitherto a strength of the Motorstorm series,strike me as uninteresting.The post-apocalyptic vibe has been beaten to death in movies and games over the last few years. I miss the somewhat more realistic levels of MS 1 and PR. I can only see a building crumble or a train crash so many times before I try to suppress a yawn.
CartridgeBlower
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When playing the demo I can't even tell -- when the environment changes, does that open up additional routes? It's hard to tell visually.
Part of the problem with PR, as much as I loved the diverging tracks, was that it created a HUGE barrier to entry.
Every time I played that game with friends, they would get frustrated because they had no idea where to go. PR was an amazing game if you put time into learning the tracks, but for that 'pick up and play' factor, it was terrible. And it looks like MSA is trying to change that. Good for newbies, bad for PR fans like myself.
Part of the problem with PR, as much as I loved the diverging tracks, was that it created a HUGE barrier to entry.
Every time I played that game with friends, they would get frustrated because they had no idea where to go. PR was an amazing game if you put time into learning the tracks, but for that 'pick up and play' factor, it was terrible. And it looks like MSA is trying to change that. Good for newbies, bad for PR fans like myself.
lowrider007
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Totobeni said:
They are never EVER going to patch out rubberbanding, it's blatantly a conscious design choice, if you don't like rubber banding then you shouldn't be playing Motorstorm as it is the epitome of rubberbanding ai, and imo works well in this type of game.
plagiarize
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yeah it does and sometimes it closes off some. when the first tunnel breaks you can take a left out of the broken tunnel, then when the train tunnel roof collapses on the right you can go up to ground level for a bit that way.CartridgeBlower said:
MNC said:
yeah pretty much. the first demo's track could have been out of the first motorstorm in the first demo. didn't look remotely different. the second demo made it look more tropical, and then the full game had a bunch of tracks that were very different to the ones from the original motorstorm. still think that first demo was terrible. it put me off the game completely.
-Deadpool-
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Dunno, really wasn't feeling the demo.
I loved Monument Valley. It was one of the first titles I had on the PS3 - played it to death (and not just because it was one of only two games I had at the time). Apart from the Buggies on Tenderizer event, it was one of my favourite arcade racing experiences ever.
Pacific Rift was fantastic as well, improved on many areas. The racing was excellent, the visuals were superb and the tweaks to AI made the final tier of events a little more bearable/less rage inducing than Monument Valley. With the exception of the last online level, I played the crap out of everything PR had to offer.
Now, Apocalypse. My biggest problem with it is, it just doesn't feel like Motorstorm. It feels like Split/Second got a sequel, they went bust, handed all their work over to Evolution - and they've released it as MS:A.
I'm sure it'll be fun to some degree, but it won't be a day one like Pacific Rift was. I'll grab it when it's in the bargain bins.
Just can't get a feel for Motorstorm going to the city - and a post-apocalyptic city.. Naa.
I loved Monument Valley. It was one of the first titles I had on the PS3 - played it to death (and not just because it was one of only two games I had at the time). Apart from the Buggies on Tenderizer event, it was one of my favourite arcade racing experiences ever.
Pacific Rift was fantastic as well, improved on many areas. The racing was excellent, the visuals were superb and the tweaks to AI made the final tier of events a little more bearable/less rage inducing than Monument Valley. With the exception of the last online level, I played the crap out of everything PR had to offer.
Now, Apocalypse. My biggest problem with it is, it just doesn't feel like Motorstorm. It feels like Split/Second got a sequel, they went bust, handed all their work over to Evolution - and they've released it as MS:A.
I'm sure it'll be fun to some degree, but it won't be a day one like Pacific Rift was. I'll grab it when it's in the bargain bins.
Just can't get a feel for Motorstorm going to the city - and a post-apocalyptic city.. Naa.
lowrider007 said:
Yeah I did the same mistake twice, shame because I really enjoyed the driving and online of both Motorstoms games, just that the shit rubberbanding destroy all the fun since it don't reward the player skills.
I will be saving my $60 for a game with no stupid rubberbanding, that for sure.
CurlySaysX
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Totobeni said:
Did you ever win a race online?
The single player was piss easy compared to the competition online.
Once you know the tracks like the back of your hand the single player is a breeze.
Rubber banding might be cheap. but so is winning by an unrealistic margin like 99% of racing games.
Winning the f1 championship in a torro rosso is cheap.
crashing on the last lap, have enough time to pick your nose and still win by a healthy margin is cheap.
Let's face the facts. most racing games become a time trial after the first few corners. where is the fun in that ?
MrTroubleMaker
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yeah, I wish the "story" part wasn't in the game. I liked what they had before. Are we stuck with this main character~Devil Trigger~ said:
, I hope not.Depending on the definition of gimmick they are not one. (Yoda says "hi".)Appollowexx said:
In the demo mode they throw Molotov-cocktails at you which make your boost go into red. They also give you a "flame icon" at the boost meter, which seems to make it impossible for your boost to go down for a short amount of time.
There are also some that are shooting at you, but I can't tell what, if anything, it's doing.
Of course you could replace them with yet another static flame source in the case of the molotov guys or a sentry gun in the other case but they do have a gameplay effect.
just finished playing the demo. finished second with the car 2 times and won the race my first try on the bike which was surprising because i usually suck with the bike and i still crashed about 8 times in the race and still won. the quicker boost took a little time to get use to and the track in the demo doesnt seem to have very many different routes. will try it out again tomorrow a little more but def be picking this game up because i loved PR and still pop it in and play it every once and awhile.
Urg what happened to this franchise? The graphics are atrocious to say the least (3D shoe horn?) and the game play feels so outdated.
The almost instant re spawns from crashes make it feel like there is no consequence to crashing at all. That coupled with the rubber band AI makes for a pretty shallow experience.
The whole "racing during and apocalypse thing" is so utterly lame surely they could have come up with a better theme ffs.
I wish I had four hands so I could give this game four thumbs down.
The almost instant re spawns from crashes make it feel like there is no consequence to crashing at all. That coupled with the rubber band AI makes for a pretty shallow experience.
The whole "racing during and apocalypse thing" is so utterly lame surely they could have come up with a better theme ffs.
I wish I had four hands so I could give this game four thumbs down.
ConradCervantes
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Eeh, watching the Eurogamer video right now. Not sure that I like the whole narrative thing Evolution is trying out. My favorite thing about the first two games is the mystique that the festival brought out, not the
Hype dampening.
corny voice acting or cel-shaded cutscenes.
Hype dampening.
After seeing the ugly and stupid cartoon cutscenes from the gamersyde preview, I have decided to skip all of them. There is only so much generic dudebro art that I can put up with. Still incredibly stoked for the game though, the demo was also pretty good albeit chaotic.ConradCervantes said:
ObnoxiousZebra
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sun-drop said:
It's not on the New Zealand PlayStation Store because of the Christchurch earthquake last month. You'll have to check the Australian/European PSN if you want to snag it.
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