But not intelligent enough be able to come up with reasons why flying the ring to Mordor might be a bad idea without the movie spelling them out?
Movies that work on as many levels as possible
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Fancy Clown
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I gotta admit, you do sound really intelligent. Do you have all the best words and the biggest brain?
Breaking Bad's drugs don't make sense. If you sell drugs, you don't want to make "pure drugs". It's easy to nitpick if we are mainly concerned with realism... which is boring.
CarpeDeezNutz
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Lord Azrael
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If the tag they're looking for is 'Banned' then they are doing a good job.
Vulcano's assistant
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Consider Gladiator. Terrible Latin, highly anachronistic, but It works because the setting doesn't have to be Rome, or any real place that actually existed. You only need to buy that there is a militaristic totalitarian Empire where they have slave fights to the death, real or not, and you tell a story that gets you invested within it, with characters you root for, and villains you love to hate. What matters is that the narrative structure, and execution delivers it.
Akright, gonna see if I can steer this back OT now. I thought it would be fun to pretend to be the person I generally dislike. Haven't you ever met someone IRL who has a worldview that they are "above" movies because they are not as "smart" as books? Only they don't express it in as straightforward way as I just did, they do it by making light of the fact that you are so passionate about movies via making fun of them/you/etc in a subtle way that you can't get accross in an online convo. I encountered them all the time in college and they are not pleasant, as I tried to get across lol. Plz don't ban me. Pretending to be an elitist aside, though...
Okay, except the movie is about sociopathy and examines it with a harsh, realistic, unflinching perspective. The characters in that movie are timeless depictions of sociopaths and the film does a very good job of realistically showing how they go from hooligans or even well-behaving people, to acting out violently. Especially for that time. There are movies that try to cerebrally examine what psychopathy/sociopathy is (We need to Talk About Kevin) that don't get their behavior down as well as Badlands does. The main thing, in addition to angst, is indifference to other life and complete lack of empathy, which Badlands does with spine-chilling accuracy.
Okay, except the movie is about sociopathy and examines it with a harsh, realistic, unflinching perspective. The characters in that movie are timeless depictions of sociopaths and the film does a very good job of realistically showing how they go from hooligans or even well-behaving people, to acting out violently. Especially for that time. There are movies that try to cerebrally examine what psychopathy/sociopathy is (We need to Talk About Kevin) that don't get their behavior down as well as Badlands does. The main thing, in addition to angst, is indifference to other life and complete lack of empathy, which Badlands does with spine-chilling accuracy.
YesManKablaam
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You mad? You mad.
Maybe movies aren't your thing.
If story logic is your issue with an acceptance of media, I pity you suffering reality where nothing this year has made sense.
Yes, but how refreshing would it be to have a historical movie that was extremely true to the times and place it is depicting. Just to see it so realistically would be magical IMO.
Several times in college, only it is more subtle (which makes it more insufferable lol). I have older family members who never got interested in movies for similar reasons, and it is even more frustrating because they really are smart, but view movies as distractions from real life experiences that don't mean much. Many college professors have that attitude. There are even many filmmakers with similar views. It's common that really smart people cant be put under the spell of a movie so they tend to not take movies and shows as seriously. It's weird, but I've met so many smart people (professors, psychologist,etc) who have horrible taste in movies and TV.
SaganIsGOAT
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ElectricBlanketFire
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When social experiments go wrong.
And/or get boring
TBH I didn't expect it to work THAT well. By page 2 I had read enough responses to the shtick.CarpeDeezNutz
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And/or get boring
You were derailing your own thread smart guy?
SuperInuit
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this is the part where i go "oh fair", i didn't click the link between the obvious sociopathic behaviour displayed by the characters and a genuine representation of it. unfortunately i have to be entertained by a film before i care to analyse it, which is why i dropped out of film school :3 shall probs have to rewatch this.
check out Spider if you're interested in depictions of mental health btw, it's by far and away the most accurate depiction of paranoid schizophrenia and the concept of the unconscious mind in cinema.
Aaronrules380
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There's certainly a place for this, but that often isn't the point. Most historical movies aren't made with the goal of actually taking people to another time period, they're just historical because that setting gives them the opportunity to go into themes that are easy to explore in such a setting. Movies often have shorthand for the sake of the plot, because the little details aren't important in most cases. In a good movie, the setting and plot are the means of conveying characters, themes, and messages to the audience. The reason most people don't care about the "no sound in space thing" is because while realistic, it doesn't really add anything to most movies, whereas having sound in space allows you to use sound to evoke certain feelings and create a greater impact. Sometimes reality needs to be thrown out the window a bit for the sake of actually conveying the point. Movies are an audio-visual medium, so removing sound from certain scenes just to be realistic takes away a major tool the creators use to tell a story (For the same reason, books don't need to worry about not having sound in space because books don't use real sound in the first place)
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Fancy Clown
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Shame OP, I liked you better when you were pretending to be smart.
ElectricBlanketFire
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You were being a total asshole. What were you expecting?And/or get boring
So this thread is a waste of everyone's time other than the OP's, then?
It certainly reads like a joke by someone who considers him/herself very intelligent and wants to reinforce that worldview. Masturbating in front of a mirror while Schubert plays in the background might be more your speed.
It certainly reads like a joke by someone who considers him/herself very intelligent and wants to reinforce that worldview. Masturbating in front of a mirror while Schubert plays in the background might be more your speed.
I jerk off to Stravinsky, only his music matches my vigorous stroke and suits the complexity of my mind, pleb.
The original topic wasn't/isn't intended to be a joke TBH.
Aaron Strife
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Beauty and the Beast is a perfect movie
Everything has a logical and natural arc and build. There is no one scene that is heads and shoulders above the rest, they're all memorable, unique and efficient.
Songs are excellent, cast is excellent.
Animation is a bit wonky at times but never so far off it detracts.
Everything has a logical and natural arc and build. There is no one scene that is heads and shoulders above the rest, they're all memorable, unique and efficient.
Songs are excellent, cast is excellent.
Animation is a bit wonky at times but never so far off it detracts.
An accurate portrayal of scizophrenia? That would be refreshing and wonderful to see. I'll definitely check Spider out, thanks.
Jeffolation
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My Dinner with Andre
I would argue that immersion in a historical setting can go a long way in preventing the audience from undermining the narrative you're trying to tell.
ditto for rigorous scientific accuracy. One reason why so many were invested in Jurassic Park, is because, at the time, there was speculation that DNA cloning via lifeforms trapped in amber might be a possibility and the dinosaurs looked hyperreal and were mostly in line with how paleontologists thought they appeared (it was before everyone knew for a fact that dinosaurs had feathers). In Interstellar the context of hyper realism in depicting space makes you feel more invested in the stakes of the movie and enhances the feeling of adventure because what you're seeing on screen is in accordance with the most up-to-date science (at least most of it, some of it was debunked and the ending is obviously highly fictionalized). You feel like you are really exploring space and even learning some things because of how few liberties were taken.
Adam_Vania
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see you pretend to be joking about the OT but then you say stuff like this which just makes you sound like the "everything must make scientific sense" pedant you think you are parodying.
DecoReturns
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I'll say Memento
Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure the Amber-cloning technique used in Jurassic Park was already debunked by the time the movie came out, and the whole "dinosaurs had feathers" idea was already a thing then. So, I don't think Jurassic Park is exactly a solid example here.
ElectricBlanketFire
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Yes, I remember as a kid them saying it wouldn't work.
Adam_Vania
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also pretty sure CGI dinosaurs that had never been seen before was a far bigger draw then the vague plausibility of the idea.
OT wasn't intended to be a joke at first. I really do feel that was about scientific accuracy in movies. I don't see what movies have to lose by simply taking science into consideration more in most sci-fi and adventure movies. It's not even an elitist thing, I've been obsessed with being an amateur astronomer and paleontologist for most of my life so I can't help but see flaws in movies that depict space and dinos. And also how are biopics and documentaries that get most of the facts wrong NOT a waste of time? Why not just be honest about using a real person as a jumping off point to tell your own story (like The Revenant and The Wind Rises) instead of selling it as a way to be informed about the real person you are depicting?
Both of those conclusions were more a bit more ambiguous and open to interpretation back then though, not the solid concrete facts that they are now.
Bullshit.
This woman needs 6 eggs. She has 5 children including herself.
There is no fucking way shes feeding this family on six eggs. If she has that much shit to do, she should be buying in bulk.
Unintelligent garbage for plebs.
No thank you.
The only reason dealers want the best shit is because they can stomp it down to the same quality as what's on the street but make triple the money.
Selling it at that quality like in BB not only doesn't make sense but when it does really happen in real life that's when you get these spike in overdose crisises because the addicts bodies can't handle purer stuff.
You could also make the argument that the facts, regarding history, science, etc are as interesting or more interesting than the fiction. So much of fiction is familiar tropes, anyway. And Jurassic Park - it's sci-fi, though. You could invent some kind of scientific technique or discovery...some plausible element that, when thrown into reality, might make your concept work. And feathered dinosaurs are no less majestic or thrilling to see:
I was more talking in a general sense. If you take a more true to science approach to a lot of fiction, you wouldn't get stuff like this
Tertullian
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Lol. I knew the OP was gonna merit this comment before the thread was done.
Of course, I have an IQ of 193 and I'm way smarter than all you miserable slack-jawed proles, so I'm always right about these things.
Adam_Vania
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it's impossible to document anything without bias. simply the act of framing an image introduces bias. that is ok. bias is inherent in every work made by a human. the intellectual thing to do is to understand that and take the work in context. the ignorant thing to do is say it's a waste of time.
again, documentaries are not objective windows into utter truth, they are subject to biases just like everything. the best way to be informed is to take everything with a grain of salt, to judge it with an open mind, and to place it in context. i recommend you read about documentaries and authenticity to see how "why not just be honest" is an absurd suggestion.
CarpeDeezNutz
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I know that, but some do sell higher quality for more money. Creatine was one of those cuts that people called "fish scale" back when I was around all that years ago I don't what it's like these days. Ultimately yeah a dead dope fiend don't make you money.
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