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Mr. Plinkett's Star Trek Picard Review
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#Phonepunk#
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its crazy that anyone should be "sensitive" about a movie or tv review. like it isn't your family. it isn't your dog.
the idea that it hurts you to see a movie you like shat on is just.... get a fucking life
the idea that it hurts you to see a movie you like shat on is just.... get a fucking life
Cleared_Hot
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This and discovery are absolute horseshit and completely shit on anything that the other series ever tried to accomplish. Can't wait to agree with (most likely) with everything ol plinkets got to say
Spaceman292
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Do you enjoy sniffing your own farts?
Cleared_Hot
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I just feel that now more than ever before we NEED old Trek again. To show people a beautiful look at the future of humanity and to watch the crew interact with the different species and their primitive problems (our problems). We don't need ANOTHER show showing our problems today still fucking exist hundreds of years from now. Also, this was the perfect chance to reach a wider audience with an actual Trek show. Instead we got yet another bullshit serialized cobbled together scifi shit show with painfully generic plot points and filled with useless adlib and creatively bankrupt dialogue and characters.
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eot
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I don't think the chief problem of Picard is that it doesn't paint a shining image of the future. Personally I enjoyed Babylon V more than Star Trek, and in some ways that show could be described as Star Trek if out future society wasn't a utopia. Also I would say that Star Trek does show all the problems that exist today, but they contrast that with a society where those problems don't exist, that's the difference. Picard is bad because it's a terribly written show, made by people without any kind of creative vision.
I will concede though that if you want to tell a more gritty sci-fi story then Star Trek probably shouldn't be the setting you use to tell it. It already has an identity and it's not whatever the hell ST: Picard was. It's just that it's pretty far down the list of problems for me. If the show had been good, while at the same time being gritty and not feeling like Star Trek that would still have been better.
#Phonepunk#
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i agree.
the problem is that most modern writers are nihilists who don't believe in anything beyond outsmarting the audience, who they have contempt for
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The Hamburglar
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Finally finished watching it last night. Was enjoyable but far too slow and frankly nonsense.
discovery season 1 was great but season 2 was pure nonsense.
Picard show is utter nonsense too.
when he turned into a robot at the end, it was so obvious and weak. Maybe now he had a robot body he can kick the shit out of people with his bare hands like Picard did in TNG.
most of the time the show felt like Picard meets old friends the show.
discovery season 1 was great but season 2 was pure nonsense.
Picard show is utter nonsense too.
when he turned into a robot at the end, it was so obvious and weak. Maybe now he had a robot body he can kick the shit out of people with his bare hands like Picard did in TNG.
most of the time the show felt like Picard meets old friends the show.
Fox Mulder
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Yeah, Star Trek is dead for me. The new stuff is bleak action trash and nothing like the TNG days.
EverydayBeast
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Never heard of it.
NecrosaroIII
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It was mediocre. Definitely kind of weak.
#Phonepunk#
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Yes it was pretty much dead to me from the first JJ movie. Which was n enjoyable movie in itself but not a good Trek movie. They just threw in a supernova and Spock’s planet getting blown up and provided nothing to think about or ponder, it was just power creep action movie schlock. Ofc JJ is often guilty of that so it’s hard to knock him when it’s his brand. At least he comes across the least full of himself out of any of these, which makes me respect him on a Roger Corman level (he is skilled at assembling product).
What does suck if when writers try to really “say some thing” and promote themselves as intellectuals. 9 times out of 10 it just reveals their creative bankruptcy. Modern writers are too concerned with deconstructing archetypes to come up with anything new. Perhaps they really believe “there are no new ideas” or just want that pat on the back for being observant. In a way this is consumer virtue signaling - the writer demonstration their superior understanding of the work, however flawed that assumption may be in reality. Hence perhaps the focus so much on “toxic fans”, there is a need to define oneself as the official author of a work that everyone knows you didn’t create. Perhaps the backlash against fans betrays a creative insecurity.
So we have Picard as an avatar being run through these story writing scenarios, rather than an actual exploration of the man he was portrayed as across 7 seasons and hundreds of hours. Juxtaposition is the name of the game for postmodernists. Take the superficial form of something, place it in a context of your choosing, and in the process, you remove that original meaning.
Deconstructionism and structuralism are methods of destroying meaning. Yes they can offer constructive criticism, the promise of something genuinely new yet faithful. But far too often writers get to the deconstruction point, put down their pencils, and let the property and meta narrative surrounding it do all the work. I find that kind of art bougeious and self serving.
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Shizumapower
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You could have called the series Dawn of the the Androids. It wouldn't have mattered.
poppabk
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I'm starting to enjoy it, but it definitely started very very slow. I'm not really invested in the universe, can't say I've watched star trek consistently since season 5 or 6 I guess of next generation.
Shizumapower
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Rentahamster
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Shouta
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I actually watch the old shows nightly nowadays. There's a channel that broadcasts all of the Star Trek in a block 6 days week so it's kinda nice to catch it every night as part of a routine.
DS9 is still amazing as always. Voyager is a little better in spots but a little worse in others, heh.
jshackles
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I watched the first 3-4 episodes of Picard before finally giving up on it out of frustration. Watching this video, I'm really glad I did.
This show's existence is an absolute travesty.
This show's existence is an absolute travesty.
The Hamburglar
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What’s your point?
people can enjoy shit.
Davey Cakes
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Well, everybody enjoys garbage of different kinds.
That said, it is nice to learn about all the garbage out there so we know what to consume and what to skip.
mango drank
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I thought the first two-thirds or so of Discovery season 1 was all right--a little manic, and kinda similar in feel to the JJ Abrams ST movies, but not bad. And then it took a serious nosedive, nothing made sense, the characters started feeling like ragdolls tossed around by writers on crack. I never got around to watching season 2. (Should I give it a try? I'm hearing conflicting reports about it being better vs worse than season 1.)
I watched like 15 minutes of the Picard premiere, and wanted to die. I made myself sit through the entire hour, and then never watched any of it again, until this review.
I watched like 15 minutes of the Picard premiere, and wanted to die. I made myself sit through the entire hour, and then never watched any of it again, until this review.
Shrinky Dink
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I am okay with the direction STD took. It just happens that it's a crappy show.
zeroFiveNine
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Plinkett puts more effort into the reviews and this vid than the tv show itself