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Mr. Robot |OT| Byte Club - a new hacker thriller - Wednesdays on USA
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I'm going to put these "fan theories" directly on the nut jobs putting them together, the fans. I don't think the show is purposefully or accidentally leading anyone astray or down the wrong rabbit hole. It's all been quite clear and any sort of fear of the creator/writers going to far down that direction is just being fed by fan theories and hysterics over nothing.
The finale was exactly what I wanted. They don't need to focus on the fallout because the show was never really wholly about the hack and what happens after. They've told us what is supposed to happen after the hack since episode one. The season (series) is about Elliot. I'm far more interested to know where he's going and who was at the door. Everything else is a playground for Mr. Robot/Elliot, EvilCorp, And Tyrell.
The finale was exactly what I wanted. They don't need to focus on the fallout because the show was never really wholly about the hack and what happens after. They've told us what is supposed to happen after the hack since episode one. The season (series) is about Elliot. I'm far more interested to know where he's going and who was at the door. Everything else is a playground for Mr. Robot/Elliot, EvilCorp, And Tyrell.
He did say they know who did this and that they know how to handle it. I wouldn't be surprised if for a portion of Season 2 - Episode 1, we get Tyrells side of the story and it leads to him coming to Elliot's door.
Placing bets on tyrell getting a safe copy of the data and getting back into evil corp. Question is double cross elliot or what
Tyrell isn't dead, obviously.
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Season was very good, finale was merely alright.
Some clumsily written scene (shoe store one, or anything involving Angela, except for the suicide itself) and didn't really go into anything interesting in and out of itself.
I'm not as sold on this show as some of you seem to be, and i still got the feeling that sometimes it plays straight some elements that i assumed weren't, making some scenes very cringe worthy (that Mr. Robot rant in Time Square comes to mind) but the confidence with which it sells everything, makes it worth it in the end.
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Season was very good, finale was merely alright.
Some clumsily written scene (shoe store one, or anything involving Angela, except for the suicide itself) and didn't really go into anything interesting in and out of itself.
I'm not as sold on this show as some of you seem to be, and i still got the feeling that sometimes it plays straight some elements that i assumed weren't, making some scenes very cringe worthy (that Mr. Robot rant in Time Square comes to mind) but the confidence with which it sells everything, makes it worth it in the end.
Zoe
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This isn't just something you could stick onto a flash drive.
Cornballer
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- Grantland Podcast: Mr. Robot Creator Sam Esmail on the Shows First Season
Thought it was a good episode, not great. Liked the Evil Corp fallout, Angela's spine slowly growing, and the Mr.Robot sequence. I feel like Mr.Robot's ramblings were supposed to seem a bit off the rails, and not exactly reflective of the Elliot we know. I'm curious about what happened to Tyrell, I liked how they faked him being dead in the trunk. On that note, his wife is seriously intimidating. That scene with Elliot getting worked by her was great.
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
So many questions going into next season.... I love this.
Yes.
bitizenbon
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It looks like several people in this thread (and other internet communities) don't trust Sam Esmail enough. We've been given a GREAT debut season of television, and both endings of the finale make me confident that this showrunner knows exactly what he's doing.
Those of you who are saying that the episode didn't feel like a finale need to realize that we're in an era of television wherein showrunners and writers don't need to conform anymore. As Esmail himself said, season 1 is just the first act of a larger story. Would you complain about the lack of finality in the first act of a book or film?
As for my own thoughts on the episode:
Even after the "big reveal" last week, the internet cafe scene was quite shocking, particularly the shot of Elliot choking himself and being pounded to the floor. I felt scared for him, and it was the first time I fully accepted what little control he has over his actions. It put me in his headspace.
The scene between Joanna and Elliot? Fucking fantastic. Everything from the music to the acting to the deliberate dialogue filled me with dread. The entire episode did, in fact. And as much as I love Tyrell Wellick, I must say his absence in the episode gave the finale a big boost; the man is an enigma.
Phillip is the most inhumane character on the show, and Angela is just starting to see firsthand how despicable these people are. What she's going to do from here on out is another intriguing mystery I can't wait to see unfold.
Overall, a 10/10 first season. I trust Esmail as much as I trusted Gilligan, Weiner and the guys behind The Knick.
Those of you who are saying that the episode didn't feel like a finale need to realize that we're in an era of television wherein showrunners and writers don't need to conform anymore. As Esmail himself said, season 1 is just the first act of a larger story. Would you complain about the lack of finality in the first act of a book or film?
As for my own thoughts on the episode:
Even after the "big reveal" last week, the internet cafe scene was quite shocking, particularly the shot of Elliot choking himself and being pounded to the floor. I felt scared for him, and it was the first time I fully accepted what little control he has over his actions. It put me in his headspace.
The scene between Joanna and Elliot? Fucking fantastic. Everything from the music to the acting to the deliberate dialogue filled me with dread. The entire episode did, in fact. And as much as I love Tyrell Wellick, I must say his absence in the episode gave the finale a big boost; the man is an enigma.
Phillip is the most inhumane character on the show, and Angela is just starting to see firsthand how despicable these people are. What she's going to do from here on out is another intriguing mystery I can't wait to see unfold.
Overall, a 10/10 first season. I trust Esmail as much as I trusted Gilligan, Weiner and the guys behind The Knick.
Jay Shadow
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Best part early on is when Esmail says "This show would be hokey as shit without Rami"
Didn't really like this episode much, worst of the season maybe.
At least the post-credits scene was intriguing.
I got the impression that it was Tyrell in the latest episode.
At least the post-credits scene was intriguing.
I got the impression that it was Tyrell in the latest episode.
a secret-boss
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back then yes, but this episode made it look like Tyrell took over the persona
I got the same impression too. Wernt the eyes blue behind the mask? The voice seemed different too
Snakethesniper
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the voice was modulated
greendomo's ghost
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I also felt a little underwhelmed. And I felt some of the time stuff was rushed. This episode would've made a fantastic season 2 premiere though, I just felt for a finale it was a bit off. Would've preferred a finale ending on a cliffhanger of him executing or about to execute the virus and then coming into this episode in season 2. Just seemed like a lot happened in 3 days.
Zoe
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The voice was modulated, but it was still different. In the past they probably had Christian Slater doing it, and in the Allsafe video it was obviously Darlene's voice.
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
It was either Tyrell or Darlene but it wasn't Elliot
Damn good point.
Good episode, but not very "satisfying". Just a bunch of questions setting up the future
Debt erased? Financial collapse?
Evil corp future?
Tyrell?
Secret society?
What will fsociety do?
What did mr robot do?
What are Amanda goals now?
That said all in next season!
Wife scene was awesome. Her stepping forward into the sun looked like it just scared Elliot away. Anyone translate what she said?
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Oh snap. It's Joshua from Until Dawn!
Dominican Power
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Angela*
Ken K in the Fresh!!!
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I probably missed it but who planted the thumb drive in the visor of the suv? Mr robot/Elliot or tyrell?
WrenchNinja
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Damn straight. Dude is the show to me. Love just watching the guy.
See I don't have a problem with this for a few specific reasons.
1. I do not need to see every 'major' event in a story in order for it to have impact. See for example how many major battles where not even written in the Song of Ice of Fire series, despite the huge repercussions that often resulted from them. The impact was in understanding the reverberations, not in seeing something as simple as "a battle took place and it was bad" or in this case "a hack too place and the world went to shit."
2. This show has already made a small habit of time gap moments where Elliot suddenly appears somewhere, and then he's rushing to figure out what happened and eventually we see what happens or hear what happens in explicit detail. This disjointed approach to the narrative is part of what makes the show appealing, because we don't actually know what's real or not. In this case, it's clear Esmail has something in mind for why we didn't see what happens. It's why Elliot spends his time trying desperate to bring back out Mr. Robot and was starting to be unsure if even Tyrell was real.
We the audience are also in his head, and when he has time gaps, we have time gaps. He asks us what happened, but we don't know either. He even says he doesn't trust us anymore. Part of the allure is slowing seeing him piece together what happened, as it's usually never quite what people expect because his reality is so fractured.
3. I don't even think the moment is resolved. It's clear we're going to be returning to what happened once he finds Tyrell. I don't think the finale needed that resolution to be effective, because it was laying track for what is going to happen in season 2 and had some spectacular moments all its own. It's mystery expansion, not a cop out.
I never saw Eyes Wide Shut (only read the Something Awful review of it and that was more than enough for me) but it sounded like Calliope music to me when I heard it making it seem like it was a giant 3-ring circus the way everyone was running around frantically trying to make sense of things over at Evil Corp and that made me smirk.
Noticed this in the signs in Times Square and had to take a pic of it - not sure if anyone else noticed it. WE DO NOT COMROMISE!
Great job overall. Well done for a new series. Hopefully season 2 will maintain the quality.
Noticed this in the signs in Times Square and had to take a pic of it - not sure if anyone else noticed it. WE DO NOT COMROMISE!
Great job overall. Well done for a new series. Hopefully season 2 will maintain the quality.
That makes sense. I wonder why they encrypted the data at all. Makes sense for ransomware, but if there's no intention to ransom it, why lock it up? As a plot point with Tyrell it makes sense.
Plus it allows the world to go back to normal and sets up the rest of the series in the context of Elliot failing, and thus needing to change the world in a more drastic manner.
It also ties into Philip Price's confidence over being able to fix everything in his "people did this" speech, implying that fsociety moving numbers around is simple enough to fix by EvilCorp just moving numbers around themselves.
who knows what being broke and without a business will do to him though... although it hasn't been hinted at what his own technical history is programming wise or if he's just a suit.
thoseAREmySHOES
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Noticed this in the signs in Times Square and had to take a pic of it - not sure if anyone else noticed it. WE DO NOT COMROMISE!
Great job overall. Well done for a new series. Hopefully season 2 will maintain the quality.
I caught that as well, seemed like a pretty glaring mistake for how prominent the sign is in the scene.
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Naw it's totally just emulating how many poorly spelled signs exist in actual protests
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
I prefer to think that was Tyrell's plan until Mr Robot got through with him and threw his body over the docks.....
Cornballer
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- Maureen Ryan: 'Mr. Robot' Finale Upgrades An Already Brilliant First Season
Harry Stewart
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Can't delete the truth.
Him getting the ban lifted doesn't mean he didn't cheat.
People not being satisfied with the finale are basically the fsociety team: Romero, Trenton, and Mobley during the finale. Pist that they weren't around for the big moment and are just around for the aftermath/cleanup. It's pretty amusing since Darlene is basically talking to those viewers as well, 'Isn't this what you all wanted?'
Felt like a GoT season finale, where the best stuff happened before the last episode. Or in this case, between episodes.
I think they played it safe, knowing that it would be extremely easy to fuck things up, and leave a bad taste in people's mouths who've really enjoyed the show so far.
It's like- it could've been worse.
I think they played it safe, knowing that it would be extremely easy to fuck things up, and leave a bad taste in people's mouths who've really enjoyed the show so far.
It's like- it could've been worse.
It makes sense in the context of what the show is purportedly about, as Sam Esmail has explained in several interviews today. It's not really about the hacking of Evil Corp. Another show would find some way to delay the actual hack in order to prolong the drama. The fact the show actually skipped the "Big Hack of the Season", and that it was successful, is a big exclamation point and clue about what the show is interested in exploring.
It's really about Elliot's journey. This first season is essentially act 1 of the overall story. His realization that he is Mr. Robot is the inciting incident. This finale is in essence the first taste of what the overarching narrative of the show will be, which is Elliot trying to grapple with the difficulties his mental illness creates, whether that's the repercussions of actions he doesn't remember committing, the fallout in his relationships with those around him, or trying to come to terms with the relationship he has with himself.
It's really about Elliot's journey. This first season is essentially act 1 of the overall story. His realization that he is Mr. Robot is the inciting incident. This finale is in essence the first taste of what the overarching narrative of the show will be, which is Elliot trying to grapple with the difficulties his mental illness creates, whether that's the repercussions of actions he doesn't remember committing, the fallout in his relationships with those around him, or trying to come to terms with the relationship he has with himself.
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