MS deal with NFL supposedly cost $400 Million
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It just seems like a lot of money to invest in creating a service that mostly already exists via sports networks/online sites (player stats/fantasy football stuff), or is probably not too compelling to the majority of NFL fans (who just care to watch the game with friends and eat/drink), or is something no one would do (Skype chats with other fans? What the hell are you going to voice/video chat random strangers about? Who is this for?)
got your smartglass and skype ready to go?
Arkos
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Lol as others have said, that's not doing it wrong, that's probably a steal, especially in the context of their aiming for the all-in-one crowd. The NFL is only relevant in the US, and it makes bank. Big time.
I am disappoint that I haven't seen a thread about this already, I thought the NFL deal-- along with EA (sports) "partnership"-- was actually probably the biggest financial bombs of the day.
The Dutch Slayer
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About the same as on ps3 I would assume, that is about $250 a year.
GillianSeed79
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I'm still trying to convince myself that this is all somehow some post-modern interpretive peformance art version of Othello and Phil Harrison is Iago and Mattrick is Othello.
Buckethead
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If any conversation like that were to take place Rockstar would have the upper hand negotiating and I sincerely doubt they want to undercut their future product line on Sony's consoles by doing so.
There'd be a premium on it, no doubt.
Remember, Microsoft spent $50 million just on the exclusive DLCs.
Air Zombie Meat
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Explains why they spent so long on it.
LyleLanley
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I wonder if Sunday Ticket will still be available on PS3/4.
CarbonatedFalcon
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2-4+ or thereabouts. On the higher side of that if you don't include marketing.
Or ~2 MMOs.
Definitely seems like a big investment in something that will only be relevant in the US. I don't really care about football at all, at least not to the extent that this would be a feature I would ever use. Money would be better spent on 2+ AAA exclusives. But even then, they'd still have a hell of an uphill battle trying to convince with all the other details released so far.
Boom Boom Pow
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considering Europe's economic condition, I don't think they really expect Europe to do much in terms of sales
mysteriousmage09
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$400 Million for something that only matters to the US? Holy shit.
famousmortimer
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MS will make money back for charging for it and ads and all of that. But you can bet your ass that the console price is also subsidizing these money-hatted apps and games.
Pristine_Condition
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Wow.
Something Wicked
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It's not cheap to become a partner of the NFL these days- just ask EA. For me, the ESPN fantasy football integration is going to be pretty sweet, since that's what my main league uses.
But if the Seahawks become the least penalized team this year, I'm calling shenanigans.
But if the Seahawks become the least penalized team this year, I'm calling shenanigans.
I think you're looking at it a little wrong. It's more of a feature than a system seller. It's more of saying 'hey if you're a football fan and got the new xbox, why not watch it on here with these features.'
$400m! what they will gain from this deal anyway? It's like people working for MS just want it piss off money on ridiculous partnerships.
that's budget of ~20 big games, each could bring in as much as the whole budget spent from its sales. how many console this is going to sell for them? with minimal hw cost margins to people who might not even buy many games.
Designed in tube.
that's budget of ~20 big games, each could bring in as much as the whole budget spent from its sales. how many console this is going to sell for them? with minimal hw cost margins to people who might not even buy many games.
Designed in tube.
dragonflys545
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Oh yea the US economy is doing great... Don't kid yourself.
BadAss2961
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And has nothing to do with gaming.
This is more like a cable provider move. lol
Pretty much.
Boom Boom Pow
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it's doing a hell of a lot better than 90% of EUrope, that's for sure. You don't kid yourself.
US growth rate per year: 1-2%. Most of Europe that isnt' Norway, Sweden and Germany: negative.
Unemployment rate US: 7.5%. What's the average unemployment rate of the coutnries of europe?
I rest my case
Well if their plan isn't to draw in otherwise uninterested customers into the Xbox ecosystem then I see it as a waste of money. If its just meant as a feature to throw at existing customers to retain their business I think the oppurtunity costs here are enormous and Microsoft should of spent that money elsewhere.
I'm still curious though if my understanding of the cost structure to access this content is accurate?
LyleLanley
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Especially if every NFL game for the next five years is filled with Windows/Surface stuff.
Can Crusher
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Yeah it's even crazier when you think this is basically U.S only.
Yeah I'm sure Sony will have a lot of trouble making money from Europe.
Yeah I'm sure Sony will have a lot of trouble making money from Europe.
indeed.
It's a five year deal and I assume it will include plenty of advertising/exposure for Xbox One and other MS products during broadcasts. I don't really follow NFL but it seems like a smart move in attracting the mainstream.
Some kind of multi-year sponsorship deal Sony signed back in 2007.
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thepotatoman
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Hey, what we're lacking in the poor and middle class we more than make up for in our mega rich class. Maybe all those people could buy 4 xboxs, along with buying 4 new copies of every game they decide to get.
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I don't understand how people don't get this. Soccer is played all over the WORLD. No one gives a shit about football outside of America.
ArcaneFreeze
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Isn't Nintendo already doing this to a lesser extent with the WiiU and Nintendo TVii? I wonder how much it cost them, or if they even had a deal for it at all. I mean:
CambriaRising
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Seems like a waste of money to me beings Sony has Sunday ticket.
Arkos
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No sadly I think that's right. I guess they think the package will be attractive enough that core NFL fans who also play video games will be willing to pay for it, and they're probably right.
You mean like the Ducks' recent rise to prominence
I don't think the people belittling this deal understand the insane amount of money that the NFL makes for itself and it's affiliates. Yes, they can definitely make enough money just in the US to justify this single transaction (not speaking for the other problems)
Also, remember its not just the X1 NFL channel or whatever. They're going to get so much name recognition from the Microsoft technology TV broadcast tie ins, that alone would probably justify the deal if they wanted to pay for simply "owning" NFL sideline tech and ignore this X1 channel.
It'll make money. It's an excellent business decision. And it wasn't made for gamers
The Faceless Master
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so basically the rest of the world that pays for XBL is subsidizing the US customer base?
Well, football is a big deal in America.
would have to pay a lot more for that.
Four_Chamber
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Good deal for Microsoft and chump change in the long run. The Surface will become the device used on NFL sidelines in the future which is key.
The NFL is big business. Both parties will do very well with this deal. While the fantasy football component is neat, this isn't a deal that has many ramifications for gamers but I think focusing on the gamers misses the forest for the trees. This will pay dividends in many other ways for Microsoft. For those thinking this and new games are mutually exclusive, Microsoft has already said its investing 1 billion in "games" (whatever that means).
The NFL is big business. Both parties will do very well with this deal. While the fantasy football component is neat, this isn't a deal that has many ramifications for gamers but I think focusing on the gamers misses the forest for the trees. This will pay dividends in many other ways for Microsoft. For those thinking this and new games are mutually exclusive, Microsoft has already said its investing 1 billion in "games" (whatever that means).
RaySpencer
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Nope! But I'm pretty sure the FIFA ultimate team thing being exclusive to the Xbox will sell them in Europe.
Goes to show what their priorities are.
Treythalomew
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Right on, they're getting advertising with this so 80 million a year doesn't sound that bad.
Ultimate team is not exclusive ....... there is a bit of dlc exclusive, nothing of note.
I don't see it as a waste of money, especially if Microsoft gets advertising during NFL games for the One this coming season.
I guess you're structure is right, but generally if you watch NFL regularly you probably have some sort of cable already.
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