My GF let a salesman into our home

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Slavik81 said:
So? They can stab you and walk right in.

And hell, if you're not home they can just smash a window in the back of your house and enter without your invitation.
I have the options of shutting the door and having witnesses/people around. Don't play stupid and pretend to not see any difference between letting people into your home or not.
 
fuzzyreactor said:
Not everyone has had a bubblegum life and is naive as you

I completely understand you being concerned with your GFs safety. Until 9 months ago my Fiancee didn't have a license or a car. Now she drives everywhere and is gone for hours at a time and it freaks me out a little inside. You can be concerned and caring and tell her that you feel like it was a bad idea to let some dude in her apartment, but creating this thread asking what you should do with her, belittling her publicly, and expressing your belief that because you make the majority of the money you should be able to tell her what to do, makes me think you're misogynistic.
 
As a woman I'm going to kind of stick up for the OP but OP you have to do a better job at not sounding controlling. Talk to your girlfriend adult to adult. You don't have to deal with her but explain to her why you don't feel comfortable with what she did.

If you can't say no to salesmen a simple solution is to just not open the door. Who in their right fucking mind buys stuff from door to door salesmen in the first place? Same with charities, don't let people try and guilt you into donating. Pick a charity you're really interested instead. I'll only buy from boyscouts and girlscout and I'll also support kids from the neighborhood for something like a sportscamp.

And opening a door for a stranger can be very dangerous. A friend did that and got hit over the head with a bottle. She won't tell the rest of story but I doubt the attacker just turned around and left her lying there unconscious. Just yesterday there was a story about an eldery couple who had their home invaded by 3 people when they opened the door for a woman who asked if she could use their phone. There was a guy standing off to the side who hit the poor old guy in the head with a crowbar.
 
marrec said:
This is the exact kind of stealth misogyny that I've talked about in multiple other threads. 70% of the people in this thread have no problem with the OP trying to control his GF.

I think there's a vein of misogyny that runs through this forum, and definitely some of fuzzy's comments portray his views on their relationship as antiquated. That said, I think that may be partly due to issues articulating his stance.

If my wife does something stupid (and I think letting in some random guy would qualify), I'm likely going to ask her WTF she was thinking. I'd expect the same from her.
 
Davidion said:
I still don't know where the OP lives so I can't tell if his reaction may be justified, but you pretty much just invalidated yours.


I invalidated my stance that he shouldn't be telling her what to do how exactly?

She, as an adult, can let anyone into her apt that she wants to. He misplaced macho aggression, and condescending attitudes don't make her any safer, they just piss her off. That is why the OP is on here right now as she is rightfully mad at him.
 
OP do you live in a bad neighborhood? Is she not from around there? If these things are true, make sure she's aware of the safety situation. Everyone so far has assumed that you've overreacted though.
 
marrec said:
I completely understand you being concerned with your GFs safety. Until 9 months ago my Fiancee didn't have a license or a car. Now she drives everywhere and is gone for hours at a time and it freaks me out a little inside. You can be concerned and caring and tell her that you feel like it was a bad idea to let some dude in her apartment, but creating this thread asking what you should do with her, belittling her publicly, and expressing your belief that because you make the majority of the money you should be able to tell her what to do, makes me think you're misogynistic.
this never happened.
 
Atrus said:
You're just ignorant and that may be the result of low population density. Most people living in high density areas know to take proper and reasonable precautions when they run into people they do not meet.

I'm guessing you don't lock your doors either? If so, then why so paranoid? The only difference between the two is you being right there while a stranger occupies your home and your presence can be rendered meaningless if the stranger is prepared.

Only if the stranger is Batman.

Otherwise, I'd totally beat him up, cause I'm a big strong man.
 
shanshan310 said:
I find it hard to say no to people, particularly strangers. I don't know if you'd call what I do agreeing, more like "passively accepting the situation". I don't like talking to strange people knocking on my door, and I usually don't like to buy things. But salespeople tend to be very pushy, and I have a hard time telling people to back off when they keep trying to convince me. Its why people keep calling my house to do surveys. People like my boyfriend are a godsend. It has nothing to do with him being protective of me and everything to do with him seeing me in an uncomfortable situation and getting me out of it. I assume that's what happened in the OP's case.

Why do you open the door if you know you can't handle the situation?
 
Gouty said:
But I'm a woman.

Would you tell me to leave or would we have a discussion about it? Like adults.

If you wanted to. Some woman comes into my house and shits all over my hardwood? That's something I'd want to talk about.

Do you live anywhere near Pittsburgh?
 
Fuck that I would not have been as cool as the OP, I would have blown the fucking roof.
Equals yes, if you behave intelligently.
What she did was dangerous and outright stupid, lucky you OP you got there in time.
That's if the whole thing wasn't an elaborate hoax.
 
outunderthestars said:
I invalidated my stance that he shouldn't be telling her what to do how exactly?

She, as an adult, can let anyone into her apt that she wants to. He misplaced macho aggression, and condescending attitudes don't make her any safer, they just piss her off. That is why the OP is on here right now as she is rightfully mad at him.

She can...but should she? Maybe not.
 
I think it's normal for you to get angry. It's more of a concern turned to anger after you visualize all the shit that could've happened if he was looking to do harm. Happens to many of us.

I'm sure she would've done things differently if she had thought about it carefully, but was probably caught off-guard. I also understand your concern, or even fear, about the possibilities of danger in the future with that person.

You should relax, take a deep breath and talk it out with the wife. I'm sure you guys can come to an understanding from that experience on, and I'm sure that dude won't cause any more trouble.

Cheers
 
fuzzyreactor said:
this never happened.

fuzzyreactor said:
Guess you missed the part where i said she didnt even want to buy it but was afraid to say no.

Also consider i support 80% of our living

If this is how you really feel about your finances, get separate accounts, explain to her why, otherwise this just looks like you're being a jerk.
 
NGAMER9 said:
I have the options of shutting the door and having witnesses/people around. Don't play stupid and pretend to not see any difference between letting people into your home or not.
You only have the option of shutting the door if they're more than a door-length away. And depending on where you live or the time of day, there may not be any people out on the street at all to see the brief second when he forces his way into your home.

If you were recommending not opening the door at all, I could see your point.
 
marrec said:
If you wanted to. Some woman comes into my house and shits all over my hardwood? That's something I'd want to talk about.

Do you live anywhere near Pittsburgh?

OMG PM me your address!
 
WoodenLung said:
Well... The "salesman" in the OPs story got a lots of sausage.
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Codeblue said:
I guess your community doesn't have a prison then?

Why would a prison make me feel less safe. At least I know where those criminals are. And if they escape they are going to want to get as far away from the area as possible.

I had to go look it up, but it looks like the closest prison is about 19 miles away. Should I start being scared now?

I've lived in Central Los Angeles, West Atlanta, and Norfolk VA, and felt safe in all of those cities as well. I'm just not going to live in fear based on media driven paranoia.
 
fuzzyreactor said:
She can also go fuck every guy in town. Guess i shouldnt tell her that is unacceptable in a relationship though. might come off as controlling

Depends on the relationship.
 
Gouty said:
OMG PM me your address!

Only if you live close enough to make it worth it. I'm not PMing my address to some woman in Arizona so she can prank call pizzas to my house.

Shit on my floor, or no address.
 
marrec said:
What are you trying to say there?
That he pays the bills so he decided who comes in and out of the house? Is that not reasonable?

If they split the rent that's different, but I'm just going by what he said.
 
fuzzyreactor said:
She can also go fuck every guy in town. Guess i shouldnt tell her that is unacceptable in a relationship though. might come off as controlling

Sure are helping your cause here.



Angry Fork said:
That he pays the bills so he decided who comes in and out of the house? Is that not reasonable?

If they split the rent that's different, but I'm just going by what he said.

It's frankly not reasonable if she's living there. That's what abusive boyfriends do.
 
outunderthestars said:
I invalidated my stance that he shouldn't be telling her what to do how exactly?

She, as an adult, can let anyone into her apt that she wants to. He misplaced macho aggression, and condescending attitudes don't make her any safer, they just piss her off. That is why the OP is on here right now as she is rightfully mad at him.

Bullshit. You live in a goddamn sleepy burg; depending on where he is, even some of the safer portions of more densely populated areas, letting a stranger into your home is one of the most moronic things you can do.

You can dig for misogyny all you want, but if this was a same-sex roommate pulling the same shit with me he'd get ripped a new asshole. Part of adult relationships, romantic or otherwise, also happens to involve not committing acts of mind numbingly stunning stupidity.
 
CrankyJay said:
Well, that's the difference between you and me. If my significant other was about to inject what I knew was a dangerous substance into her body, you're sure as shit I will grab the needle and toss it away. Call that control if you want, but if you'd sit there and watch her do it and not attempt to intervene then you have some issues in the name of internet righteousness.
That's not the point I was trying to make (I'm not sure if that would even be considered control). I'd do the same too, but a person wanting to inject themselves with heroin can do that without anyone on sight. How are you going to ensure they don't ever inject themselves? Chaining them to a wall? Do you think that would be moral?

The point is that a woman, like a man, has full autonomy of their own body. They decide for themselves. As a friend or family, you can and should try your best to prevent a loved one from harming themselves, but ultimately it is their decision to make.
 
Slavik81 said:
You only have the option of shutting the door if they're more than a door-length away. And depending on where you live or the time of day, there may not be any people out on the street at all to see the brief second when he forces his way into your home.

If you were recommending not opening the door at all, I could see your point.
If the guy has broken the door chain, overpowers me in my attempt in shutting the door, and manages to do this with nobody else hearing or noticing this on my street, he deserves to stab me.
 
CrankyJay said:
She can...but should she? Maybe not.


That wasn't the basis of his argument though. He uses the word "told" several times.

A rational discussion about safety is one thing. To come home and tell her that she can't do something is another thing all together.
 
For the White Knights:

Exactly how stupid does my girlfriend have to be before I am allowed tell her that her behavior is unacceptable? Can she drive home drunk? Can she can into a car with a drunk at the wheel? Can she walk home alone late at night? Can she use hard drugs?
 
fuzzyreactor said:
She can also go fuck every guy in town. Guess i shouldnt tell her that is unacceptable in a relationship though. might come off as controlling
Dude, you have no right to tell her she can't fuck every guy in town. You sexist pig!
 
Personally, these things worry me at times because you just never know who will come to the door. Both parties should be aware of the possible dangers of letting unknown people into your home. Honestly, no one you don't expect should be allowed in IMO.

For a while my apartment building didn't have a major lock on the main doors (outskirts of town, minimal traffic) - they just recently put a heavy duty one in with codes and everything. I assume part of the reason is because we do often get foot traffic from shady types/religious pushers.
 
Just had a discussion about this with my gf:

"If this happens, don't let him in the house. Sound good?"

"No problem."

edit: I've had experience with these guys though and they're convincing, so I can easily see how someone might be hooked unless they've heard about them before.
 
Devolution said:
It's frankly not reasonable if she's living there. That's what abusive boyfriends do.
It's still his house though if he pays for it though.

I would say the same thing if the female was paying for it. If a guy was living there and not paying he doesn't get to let strangers in.
 
Davidion said:
Bullshit. You live a goddamn sleepy burg; depending on where he is, even some of the safer areas of more densely populated areas, letting a stranger into your home is one of the most moronic things you can do.

You can dig for misogyny all you want, but if this was a same-sex roommate pulling the same shit with me he'd get ripped a new asshole. Part of adult relationships, romantic or otherwise, also happens to involve not committing acts of mind numbingly stunning stupidity.
HOLY SHIT.

That's hot.
 
NGAMER9 said:
If the guy has broken the door chain, overpowers me in my attempt in shutting the door, and manages to do this with nobody else hearing or noticing this on my street, he deserves to stab me.
I'd consider using a door chain not really opening the door at all. If that's what you were trying to say, then sure.
 
Angry Fork said:
That he pays the bills so he decided who comes in and out of the house? Is that not reasonable?

If they split the rent that's different, but I'm just going by what he said.

That is not reasonable no.

Relationships are not about who pays the bills.
 
marrec said:
Only if you live close enough to make it worth it. I'm not PMing my address to some woman in Arizona so she can prank call pizzas to my house.

Shit on my floor, or no address.
Hey, don't tell her not to call pizzas to your house. It is her decision. Talk it out like adults. Maybe make a pros and cons chart or something.
 
Angry Fork said:
It's still his house though if he pays for it.

I would say the same thing if the female was paying for it. If a guy was living there and not paying he doesn't get to let strangers in.

And if she lives with him in "his house" she can't have company over? That's some controlling bullshit you got goin' on there.
 
Before we destroy the OP here completely, if we take away his shitty phrasing, is his reaction really that bad? If your girlfriend/boyfriend did something that you deemed dangerous and financially irresponsible would you get upset or let it slide?
 
jacket320 said:
Just had a discussion about this with my gf:

"If this happens, don't let him in the house. Sound good?"

"No problem."

edit: I've had experience with these guys though and they're convincing, so I can easily see how someone might be hooked unless they've heard about them before.

At least you asked for her input.

>.>

NGAMER9 said:
Hey, don't tell her not to call pizzas to your house. It is her decision. Talk it out like adults. Maybe make a pros and cons chart or something.

That's what we're doing, it's call negotiation dude.
 
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