My God I Fucking Can't Stand Scalpers

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It seems like so much work for so little gain. Maybe it's just because I have a decent job, but the risk and effort involved in a potential gain of just like $30 does not seem worth it.

I guess there's things like this pip boy that you can be sure will sell for a profit, but then there's people that stocked up on Wii Us or some shit and made a loss.

Just work an honest job for honest money, I say.
 
Welcome to business.

"What do I have that I can get more for than I expend for" is literally how all business is done. Not that scalping video game CEs is a sustainable business model but it does follow a model.
 
I think there's a difference between flipping and scalping and you're talking about flippers here but I agree they drive me insane. Have to deal with them all the time collecting rare toys
 
It's when scalpers attempt to buy multiples of limited items to resell for profit that irks me. It denies others the ability to buy those items because the scalper is hording them. So, whenever it turns out that a product is a piece of shit and the scalper is left high and dry with unwanted stock, I feel zero sympathy for them.

Because there's only so many factories can make. These aren't the only things being built.

"Demand for this is insane, we've got to make more.' And they'd move other projects off or shift stuff to other factories and it just came to [them telling Bethesda], 'Final answer: sorry, this is as many as we can make.' And we sold every single one of those that we could."
http://www.engadget.com/2015/07/28/fallout-4-pip-boy-edition-no-more-units/
 
Yeah but that's the thing man. I'm a broke ass college student,I can't afford that crap. How can it be reasoned that it's not a shitty thing thing to profit off of people's misfortune?
If misfortune is not being able to have to have a video game toy you're sitting pretty.

Scalpers don't morally offend me. I wouldn't do it unless I was having trouble putting food on the table, but if other people want to it's fine. If someone is willing to sell out a ton of money for a game or toy, good for them.

That said it is pretty sleazy when well-off people do it to make money on the side.
 
Gaming community before game comes out:

"PREORDERS SUCK DON'T DO THEM THEY'RE POINTLESS!"

Gaming community, after game comes out:

"FUCK SCALPERS I WAS DOING OTHER THINGS WHEN IT CAME OUT!"
Oh yes the mysteical GAF Hivemind. Get over yourself, strawmanning stuff. Lol.
 
You've seen nothing my yet, wait until they're released. Prices will be crazy, same with the Juggernog edition of Black Ops 3.
 
At least for stuff like videogames or other collectibles, why not just slap a preorder on it and decide later? Amazon doesn't charge until shipping, at the risk of stating the obvious. If you thought you even kind of wanted the Pip-Boy edition, you could have just preordered and made up your mind over the next 3 months before release. If not, cancel it and lose nothing. Even if you're at work, I feel like you can probably take a two minute break to grab your phone and go through the purchase process.
 
I've been on both ends of scalping, and honestly I don't care.If I want something bad enough, I'll pay for it, otherwise, it's just an item. There are more important things to be pissed about.

Anti-Scalper sentiments tend to sound pretty entitled most of the time TBH.
 
Odd seeing the reactions to this thread and the thread of the guy who marked up the price of pills.

"If people are willing to pay it!"

Medication =! videogames/collectibles/things that are generally being discussed ITT. One is necessary to living a normal life, and one is a luxury that no one has to have. If I can't afford to buy a version of Fallout 4 that is being scalped for far more than it's MSRP, I'm not going to die.
 
Medication =! videogames/collectibles/things that are generally being discussed ITT. One is necessary to living a normal life, and one is a luxury that no one has to have. If I can't afford to buy a version of Fallout 4 that is being scalped for far more than it's MSRP, I'm not going to die.

I meant scalping in general, which people are commenting on.
 
Eh, I sold all my New York Comic Con tickets for a profit this month since I was working there. Tickets were in incredibly high demand considering the fact that average joes who watch sports/meat heads were going so I took advantage when tickets when on sale and bought up a bunch. I didn't feel ashamed at all so no regrets since the people I sold them to were happy to pay my asking prices.

The money went to buying up some exclusive toys/gadgets which I plan on flipping forward to finance a couple of personal goals. In the end of day, it's people who are willing to fuel the market so someone is willing to pay the money.

I think there's no real black and white story to the scalping market. I mean yeah, it might be considered unethical but there's hundreds of reasons why one might want to sell something at a profit. Maybe they need to off crippling debt, a new car, invest in something they wanted to do, or maybe they really are greedy. In the end of the day, it's all shades of grey. Supply and demand is such that people are willing to pay good money for something that is scarce. It's one of the dangerous sides to capitalism/materialism but the wheels of capitalism keep on turning.

Same with PAX. Last year there was a couple, excited that I had extra Saturday and Sunday badges. I didn't guarantee them anything, but I would be glad to sell them. They are worthless in a day. Then out of nowhere, another couple offered to pay double in the afternoon so they could hang out later.

At that point I had no obligation. Made the extra few bucks. Felt a little bad that the couple was supposedly on their way up, but losing the risk, gaining money? Well worth it.

I was able to purchase one whole drink from those booze scalpers at Whiskey Priest!
 
Not the sharpest tool in the shed, are you?

How do you figure?

A ticket to an event costs $XX. From the aftermarket, that ticket can be $X, $XX, or $XXX. It's really not that complicated.

In understand people not wanting to deal with them. The thread title kind of dictated the discussion here.
 
Not gonna feel bad scalping for frigging video games, you pay more buying limited edition of video game from "scalper"? boo fucking boo.
 
i can't stand them for very limited items, just because the demand is incredibly high for them and the markup from scalpers is like 10X like for sneakers or collectible items since they know people will pay

but for everything else they're fair game imo, and that includes event tickets. i've gotten far better deals from them than shitty ticketmaster for instance.
 
Don't hate the scalpers, hate the people who are so desperate to own random collectibles that they'll pay far above retail. If it weren't for them then the only people who would buy these collectibles are those intending to keep it.
 
I hate them with a passion, and I pretty much never use the word hate. But this is something I truly hate.

There was an event in my town for perhaps the most popular musical act in my country who nowadays performs only once a year. The only way of buying tickets is through their online system. There is an online queue starting 1,5 hours before the actual sale starts. People are then told that the first queue doesn't matter - you are automatically put in another queue when the sale starts in a random position. So no matter when you started queuing, as long as you were there before the sale you could end up in any position.

For this event you can buy 10 tickets per person. This musical act has a lot, and I mean a lot, of diehard fans that desperately want a ticket. Obviously people swoop in and buy tickets for their original $70 price, and then proceed to advertise them for around $350, or even more, on the concert facebook event page. The event sold out in about thirty minutes. Shit like this makes me furious. These assholes only want to profit off the fandom of kids, students and young people (he has mostly younger fans, ranging anywhere from 13 to 25) to make a quick buck. I hate everyone that does this. The only reason why I got a ticket is because we teamed up like ten people to make sure we got in, and then bought for our friends.
 
Oh yes the mysteical GAF Hivemind. Get over yourself, strawmanning stuff. Lol.
The irony of this post is beautiful.

The solution to scalpers is ensuring your purchase, I think it's pretty funny that lately pre-orders are looked down upon at the same time these days. lmao.
 
I have a kinda hard time getting upset with scalpers if we're talking about luxury goods (which we mostly are). This isn't exactly food or medicine.

In the case of tickets to events, they're also assuming an inherent risk so being rewarded for that after investing in the original face value is fine.

Scalpers for goods that can be returned for full value when they don't sell is a little more dodgy to me since that feels more like exploiting customer service and that risk is passed onto the retailer, which is shitty. Also probably the real reason retailers do the "limit 1 per household" thing.

So basically scalpers are fine as long as they assume some kind of economic risk because that's just buying low and selling high (again talking about luxury goods here, not essentials).
 
Is this mostly a US thing? Because I have never missed out on a CE or other game related thing because of scalpers. I've only encountered this shit with concert tickets.

That said, I think scalpers can fuck off, but so can people buying from them. As long as the demand is there, scalpers will exist.
 
Is this mostly a US thing? Because I have never missed out on a CE or other game related thing because of scalpers. I've only encountered this shit with concert tickets.

That said, I think scalpers can fuck off, but so can people buying from them. As long as the demand is there, scalpers will exist.

Why does everybody assume everything is a US thing? lol
 
Last year I sold one of my spare season tickets for college football, and that one ticket pretty much recouped me my entire season ticket purchase price.

But yeah people who scalp on things you can get readily available at a slightly higher premium are garbage.
 
The suppliers should regulate the sales correctly, capitalism is shit without regulation. It's encouraging people to make money from whatever they can find.
 
Capitalism, ho! You're not gonna find many questioning the distributive fairness of capitalism on a forum with so many Americans.

It's pretty fucking sad though.

Yes, America is the only country with companies that manufactures limited/collector editions of games that sell out immediately. /s
 
When does scalping become collecting? Where's the line?


When people buy things they know will be rare with absolutely no intention for themselves to enjoy said item, but instead to turn around and double/triple the money they started with by selling it to someone else that really wants it.


AKA the whole practice is really gross/selfish, but people will defend anything. /shrug
 
It's kind of shitty, but I can't feel too bad because the people paying inflated rates for specialty items probably aren't exactly the downtrodden of society.
 
If people are so enamoured by a materialistic and unnecessary item that they're willing to pay well above the odds for it, shouldn't they be just as privy to blame? Scalpers wouldn't do what they do if such people weren't willing to throw down these stupendous amounts.

I don't really have an issue with it tbh, and have even done it myself in the past with a few items. Unless of course it's to an extreme extent, Eg one guy buys hundreds or even thousands of a particular item, essentially manipulating the market and almost having a monopoly over the extent of scalping. Otherwise like with anything, it's just simple supply and demand.
 
just checked the juggernog edition on ebay and it looks like if I wanted to thanks to GCU I could make roughly $150 profit......holy shit.


But I want it....so, yes, fuck them lol
 
Its not the scalpers fault its the fault of the people who actually pay them.

This.

If you pay a scalper you're giving reason for them to exist.

Here's an idea: how about scalpers just stop being assholes and, as Transhuman so eloquently put it, "who would take something special like that, that brings people so much joy and just exploit that to... to make a quick dollar."

I mean I understand why scalping exists and why people do it, but if I found out that someone I knew was a scalper I probably wouldn't talk to that person again.
 
I don't mind scalpers in theory, the secondary market is the secondary market, but they make trying to get high demand things a pain in the fucking ass. especially getting a ticket to a high demand concert. many scalpers employ a bot strategy so they're skipping the captchas and just getting right in there and then *boom* 30 seconds later the whole fucking thing is sold out and you're left to hold out for a re-release or pay secondary market prices.
 
Here's an idea: how about scalpers just stop being assholes and, as Transhuman so eloquently put it, "who would take something special like that, that brings people so much joy and just exploit that to... to make a quick dollar."

People?
 
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