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My God I Fucking Can't Stand Scalpers
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dr3upmushroom
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Don't be such a whiny baby op.
Darth Karja
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Hey, I've got 2 tickets I can sell you. $50 each.
Exactly. The crap I got was about not keeping it, because it would have been worth more. I might have been worth more in a decade. At the moment? It wasn't valued so no problem.
Nah man I'm perfectly content whining about something that annoys me.
Now that I remember I used the money I made from selling it to buy my Japanese New 3DS in the first place, was worth it IMO.
richardhawk
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I was expecting this to be about concert tickets or a sporting event. Stop buying plastic garbage and you won't have this problem.
It can be about whatever you want it be. I've only bought one Collectors Edition in my life. Actually, I don't think I've personally ever been screwed over by scalping
Some people might really want one yeah.
Okay, I agree ticket bots suck.
Any one on one form of scalping where one person buys an item and sells it at a profit is fine though.
BronsonLee
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Batista sucks
I've never really cared enough about a game to pay scalp prices. I've maybe bought a few vintage games here or there but those were usually $40 for a game that was like five years old. If I care enough about something that I want it day one, I can find a way to get it day one at cost. Maybe this is because If I want to get something, it's usually either on the very day it becomes available, or like a year later.
Where I start to draw the line though is with people who use bots or whatever to cause an item to almost instantly sell out. The whole laziness on the part of the customer argument kind of flies out the window when the window to buy something at cost is literally only minutes or seconds. Somebody could be at work during that small window, or be preoccupied for whatever other important reason.
Edit: This is also kind of one argument for digital. Strangely, it seems when Sony selects old PS1 and PS2 games for re-release on PSN, it tends to pick games that are being heavily scalped like Tron Bonne ($400) or Final Fantasy VII ($75 at the time of its PSN release). It might be why some of the classics have done really well.
I've actually thought about getting sort of a "net-profit" with digital versions of some games I already own. There are a few PS1 games I have that might fetch $30 or $40 if I trade them in to a local store, but are only $6 or $10 each if I re-buy them on PSN. The save files will even still work.
Where I start to draw the line though is with people who use bots or whatever to cause an item to almost instantly sell out. The whole laziness on the part of the customer argument kind of flies out the window when the window to buy something at cost is literally only minutes or seconds. Somebody could be at work during that small window, or be preoccupied for whatever other important reason.
Edit: This is also kind of one argument for digital. Strangely, it seems when Sony selects old PS1 and PS2 games for re-release on PSN, it tends to pick games that are being heavily scalped like Tron Bonne ($400) or Final Fantasy VII ($75 at the time of its PSN release). It might be why some of the classics have done really well.
I've actually thought about getting sort of a "net-profit" with digital versions of some games I already own. There are a few PS1 games I have that might fetch $30 or $40 if I trade them in to a local store, but are only $6 or $10 each if I re-buy them on PSN. The save files will even still work.
radios shipping overview
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Scalpers are part of why ticket sales practices by any mid-sized or larger ticket merchant are awful. They are parasites and petty people.
Veritigo_X
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What's the problem here? They're selling something you want at a markup due to its current market value.
As far as scalpers making you lose your chance to buy the game, I don't think they represent a large part of the sales so it wouldn't help your chances that much. It's just easy to get pissed off because they're so public when they're selling and easy to point out.
As far as scalpers making you lose your chance to buy the game, I don't think they represent a large part of the sales so it wouldn't help your chances that much. It's just easy to get pissed off because they're so public when they're selling and easy to point out.
Joyful
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not really
pills are life or death for some and that guy owned the only supply
scalping is just easy profit on things people dont need, and are secondhand sales
same here but dude there are more important things to worry about than a fucking piece of plastic.
get the regular edition and call it a day, don't forget how much you owe in student loans.
Intheflorsh
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Are you seriously comparing medicine to chintzy preorder pack-in crap?
Mechanized
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Yeah they're awful but that's life. If people can do something shitty to get ahead, they will. Whether it affects someone else they don't know is inconsequential.
Not seeing how ticket bots are different. Why does the method of scalping matter when the result is exactly the same? Are we really straight up complimenting regular scalpers for their patience in F5ing at the computer? I give more credit to bot users for at least being smarter and going all in on the assholeness.
It doesn't really, its just a matter of scale.
RoninChaos
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There's a pretty big difference between a life saving medication and a Pip-boy. Just putting that out there.
Agent_ShortBus
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I bought two, I'm going to re-sell both of them but I'm doing it because I want to finish up fixing up my car and I need some extra $$$$ to do it right now. I recently sold my sealed Persona 4 the Golden for $181 and a copy of Zero escape with the watch for $130. Not gonna lie I feel bad for selling them for way more than what I paid and feel the same about the pip boy editions. But i have no problem with scalpers when they have something I missed out on that i really wanted and are asking a lot. They where there at the right time and the right place is all.
You Are Viewtiful
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Sometimes I wish I didn't have a conscience. Scalping sounds like an easy way to make huge bank.
In the real world speculation is often regulated. I don't think people should be arguing that this is okay because "Free Market lol". Scalping isn't a service, it's more or less taking advantage of cracks in the system to make money.
The short answer is yes they did, and on top of that they usually reacted with violence.
The long answer is that Free Markets are a relatively recent development, and projecting our ideas on how transactions occur backwards is bound to lead to inaccuracies. They didn't complain that someone cornered the market, they complained that there was a market to be cornered instead of traditional price regulation.
The short answer is yes they did, and on top of that they usually reacted with violence.
The long answer is that Free Markets are a relatively recent development, and projecting our ideas on how transactions occur backwards is bound to lead to inaccuracies. They didn't complain that someone cornered the market, they complained that there was a market to be cornered instead of traditional price regulation.
Joyful
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once someone buys something they have the right to resell it ( or at least should, its no guarantee these days)
I was thinking the same thing!
shira
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That's why they are "Collector's" or "Limited" edition. You are paying a premium because you want some kind of horse armor or toy. Supply vs Demand.
Eh, I pre-order stuff all the time.
But I think that argument is more for standard editions of games.
Why?
I'm not saying I disagree with you, but you, and our society at large, clearly has a pretty strong implicit warrant that "Free Markets" are inherently good and normal.
One should be able to argue for why this is the case.
To give a more concrete example, should I be able to buy all available onion futures and keep or resell them at any price I want at any time I want? People hardly need onions to survive, but the US government doesn't seem to believe an individual or group should be able to do this.
outunderthestars
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I ended up with 3 FO4 peorders and had no intention of salping them. (Seriously, 2ps4 preorders and one xb1 in case the mod suppport thing was more awesome. Then i saw eBay listings going for $300 and flipped all of them.
Feel like a bit of a prick, but the proceeds helped to pay for an engagement ring.
If stupid people want to pay $300 for a plastic shell for their phone, I will gladly sell it to them.
Feel like a bit of a prick, but the proceeds helped to pay for an engagement ring.
If stupid people want to pay $300 for a plastic shell for their phone, I will gladly sell it to them.
Admiral Woofington
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if they're limited to 1-2 copies per person then I don't mind as that's just being smart. but when you're buying a big portion of the merchandise then fuck you
TheTurboFD
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I'm fine with people buying non necessities and selling them for a profit. If you wanted it bad enough you should have bought it. Especially on something that's limited. Hell I bought an extra PS4 on release and sold it for double the price. I didn't force anyone's arm to buy it but they came right to me. If no one bought it I would have been stuck with a ps4 that I would have had to sell at cost. Where I draw the line though is ticket bots and items that are necessary for people such as food , medicine. Petty stuff like games and such don't bother me, I can wait.
This. Supply and demand, scalpers show that people care enough if they pay their prices, if they don´t the prices will go down to the usual or scalpers will just cancel the preorders. Either don´t pay the prices or wait for a restock.
Edit: Oh, and if you had something rare in your possession, worth double what you paid for it on the market, would you sell it for what you paid for it or for the market price? In my experience, EVERYONE wants to make a profit, otherwise why bother selling it at all? Just keep it. Its the reason why collectibles exist.
Eh, I sold all my New York Comic Con tickets for a profit this month since I was working there. Tickets were in incredibly high demand considering the fact that average joes who watch sports/meat heads were going so I took advantage when tickets when on sale and bought up a bunch. I didn't feel ashamed at all so no regrets since the people I sold them to were happy to pay my asking prices.
The money went to buying up some exclusive toys/gadgets which I plan on flipping forward to finance a couple of personal goals. In the end of day, it's people who are willing to fuel the market so someone is willing to pay the money.
I think there's no real black and white story to the scalping market. I mean yeah, it might be considered unethical but there's hundreds of reasons why one might want to sell something at a profit. Maybe they need to off crippling debt, a new car, invest in something they wanted to do, or maybe they really are greedy. In the end of the day, it's all shades of grey. Supply and demand is such that people are willing to pay good money for something that is scarce. It's one of the dangerous sides to capitalism/materialism but the wheels of capitalism keep on turning.
The money went to buying up some exclusive toys/gadgets which I plan on flipping forward to finance a couple of personal goals. In the end of day, it's people who are willing to fuel the market so someone is willing to pay the money.
I think there's no real black and white story to the scalping market. I mean yeah, it might be considered unethical but there's hundreds of reasons why one might want to sell something at a profit. Maybe they need to off crippling debt, a new car, invest in something they wanted to do, or maybe they really are greedy. In the end of the day, it's all shades of grey. Supply and demand is such that people are willing to pay good money for something that is scarce. It's one of the dangerous sides to capitalism/materialism but the wheels of capitalism keep on turning.
Stereogatari
Banned
Technically, all business is scalping.
Khaos_Knight
Banned
You wouldn't be saying that if you had something in possession that was rare and very valuable.
Also why didn't Bethesda make the Pip Boy support larger phones as well? Phablet phones aren't really that much bigger than regular phones. That's ultimately what killed my desire to get it.
It's when scalpers attempt to buy multiples of limited items to resell for profit that irks me. It denies others the ability to buy those items because the scalper is hording them. So, whenever it turns out that a product is a piece of shit and the scalper is left high and dry with unwanted stock, I feel zero sympathy for them.
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