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My Hero Academia (Shonen Jump) move over pirates, ninjas, reapers, its Hero time
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Bounceounce
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Bakugou said he wouldn't lose to Deku again.
He's just keeping that promise up.
Like real talk, I gotta clear this up. People keep on saying that One for All will completely outclass the rest, but that ain't gonna happen. You know how Horikoshi says "quirks are trainable, like any organ of your body"? Read between the lines, and what he's actually saying is "with training, quirks are limitlessly powerful".
And we're working on shounen mechanics, people are going to tank injuries and perform feats that would be impossible in real life. One for All doesn't give you infinite durability, the implication is that Deku's body can naturally adapt on its own. Bakugou, and every character in the series, could literally train themselves into reacting fast enough.
And we're working on shounen mechanics, people are going to tank injuries and perform feats that would be impossible in real life. One for All doesn't give you infinite durability, the implication is that Deku's body can naturally adapt on its own. Bakugou, and every character in the series, could literally train themselves into reacting fast enough.
he got punched dead on in the face. lot of bs went down to make baku win.
Trojita
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Either OfA is powerful or it isn't. If a 5-8% fist to the fucking face doesn't hurt someone, how the fuck is Deku supposed to fight in the future?
And quirks definitely have limits just like the human body.
OniBarubary
Banned
Surprising literally no one.
nah. quirks can be trained to more powerful just like the human body can be trained to lift or run faster. you got limits as a human being, and quirks still got limits based on the power. that is why inventions are made to assist quirks.
Baku was getting hit with 5-8 percent power and baku was eating that shit for breakfast. which got my scratching my head.
there is no probably lol. we have already seen limitations.
Yeah, but what kind of limits are we talking about? Everybody in the class has limits, but just like Deku, those limits can be trained away.
Trojita
Rapid Response Threadmaker
> Be treated like shit by cocky dumbass who was gifted a super strong quirk
> Get bullied by him most of your life
> Still try to treat him nice
> Gain a quirk
> Bully gains inferiority complex, treats everyone like shit
> Cocky attitude gets him in trouble
> Save his ass because you are so nice
> Wreck your arms in the process
> Bully still treats you like a piece of shit despite saving his life
> Picks a fight with you because of his inferiority complex
> Instead of wrecking his ass you have to lmaolose because plot armor makes him take a punch to the face
> Get bullied by him most of your life
> Still try to treat him nice
> Gain a quirk
> Bully gains inferiority complex, treats everyone like shit
> Cocky attitude gets him in trouble
> Save his ass because you are so nice
> Wreck your arms in the process
> Bully still treats you like a piece of shit despite saving his life
> Picks a fight with you because of his inferiority complex
> Instead of wrecking his ass you have to lmaolose because plot armor makes him take a punch to the face
And that isn't plot armor. It's an established part of the series. If you guys don't like Bakugou winning, yeah, that's one thing, but you don't need to pretend it's an asspull. Just say you don't like him.
Like, heck man, Toga/Camie literally had a ninja run ability. That has nothing to do with her quirk. If that isn't confirmation that "you can train yourself into getting superhuman powers totally unrelated to your quirk", I dunno what is.
Like, heck man, Toga/Camie literally had a ninja run ability. That has nothing to do with her quirk. If that isn't confirmation that "you can train yourself into getting superhuman powers totally unrelated to your quirk", I dunno what is.
lol pretty much. there is no saving grace to baku. deku should of just knocked his ass out with the 8 percent and called it a day. Baku still calling him shit after beating him was just icing on the cake.
I know Japan loved that
well I would hope since they are still teens. they aren't done growing.
OniBarubary
Banned
Bakugou has become a very intricate character.
Not intricate or good enough to be number one in the popularity poll because I'm not a dumb Japanese teenager, but still, he has a surprising amount of depth and his development is quite good. He's never going to turn a leaf and be a "good guy" in the sense that that's not really how life works a lot of the time. Most of the time shitty kids grow up to be shitty adults because their personality is shit. People can change and turn around but at a fundamental level most people stay the same, they just shift what their traits are directed towards or how they're expressed.
So Bakugou feeling all these things, hating Deku and his own weakness and his relationship with All-Might, then slapping away All-Might's (his WHOLE REASON FOR WANTING TO BE A HERO) hand from comforting him and dropping to the ground and covering his face so it can't be seen is completely in line with his character and who he is. He can still learn how to be a real hero from Deku but he's not suddenly gonna be besties and pal around with him. Hell, he probably never will. He'll just direct his assholishness towards something else or reign it in a bit. And that's fine. As a main character in this manga he doesn't have to be likable or have some epiphany that makes him apologize and a nice guy. He just has to...grow up.
He needed the win here, it helped the overall point of the whole chapter.
Edit: Ashido getting robbed in every single popularity poll posted in here. I want names of all the people in Japan who didn't vote for her and I'll personally fight every one of them in January when I'm there.
Consider the posters in here who didn't vote for her on notice.
Not intricate or good enough to be number one in the popularity poll because I'm not a dumb Japanese teenager, but still, he has a surprising amount of depth and his development is quite good. He's never going to turn a leaf and be a "good guy" in the sense that that's not really how life works a lot of the time. Most of the time shitty kids grow up to be shitty adults because their personality is shit. People can change and turn around but at a fundamental level most people stay the same, they just shift what their traits are directed towards or how they're expressed.
So Bakugou feeling all these things, hating Deku and his own weakness and his relationship with All-Might, then slapping away All-Might's (his WHOLE REASON FOR WANTING TO BE A HERO) hand from comforting him and dropping to the ground and covering his face so it can't be seen is completely in line with his character and who he is. He can still learn how to be a real hero from Deku but he's not suddenly gonna be besties and pal around with him. Hell, he probably never will. He'll just direct his assholishness towards something else or reign it in a bit. And that's fine. As a main character in this manga he doesn't have to be likable or have some epiphany that makes him apologize and a nice guy. He just has to...grow up.
He needed the win here, it helped the overall point of the whole chapter.
Edit: Ashido getting robbed in every single popularity poll posted in here. I want names of all the people in Japan who didn't vote for her and I'll personally fight every one of them in January when I'm there.
Consider the posters in here who didn't vote for her on notice.
can you imagine the emo baku chapters if he lost. dear lord no.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
This kind of dragged for me but I'm more disappointed in somehow at the very least this wasn't some tie.
stain is on whole nother level. don't compare them
And Bakugou is on another level too -cntr
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Are we comparing a rookie hero to a well seasoned fighter
Or maybe 5% and 8% isn't that good. Maybe it'd be satisfying to have Bakugou be defeated instantly, but that'd be shortsighted shit storytelling.
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Yeah but I have no idea where you guys got the idea that it's enough to instantly defeat Bakugou. Literally nothing in the story implies it's gonna be that strong.
OniBarubary
Banned
It's not like Stain trained his face to be super good at taking punches. Stain's whole vitality and resistance came from his beliefs and conviction.
In much the same way in this fight, Bakugou was 1000% balls to the wall all about winning it to prove something. He didn't tank a hit because his face is unnaturally hard, he tanked it because of sheer willpower.
It's not like Stain's face or neck is any tougher than Bakugou's. They both just fight through a lot of painful shit.
In much the same way in this fight, Bakugou was 1000% balls to the wall all about winning it to prove something. He didn't tank a hit because his face is unnaturally hard, he tanked it because of sheer willpower.
It's not like Stain's face or neck is any tougher than Bakugou's. They both just fight through a lot of painful shit.
Bounceounce
Member
Glad Bakugou won, but I still really want him to be brought down a peg, he needs to learn that Deku isn't just a muse for him to work out his personal issues on.
But I'm sure he'll grow past that and apologize one day.
Glad he made it to number one, well deserved.
But I'm sure he'll grow past that and apologize one day.
Yah because only dumb people love Bakugou.
Glad he made it to number one, well deserved.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Baku winning the poll probably had a lot to do with "oh thank god we're not doing the Sasuke thing" relief, so y'all can dial the salt down.
Also, is All Might wielding the Buster Sword there? lmao
Anyway, I called this a while back. Bakugou losing the fight would've destroyed him. Dude would've gone villain, or at least hitched his star to Endeavor. This was the best outcome. And while it's definitely a swerve from what we expected at the end of the last chapter (which seemed to be telegraphing a serious injury for Bakugou), it's not an asspull, either; Deku at less than 10% power and with comparatively little training or experience was nearly enough to overwhelm Bakugou, despite (again, it's worth remembering) the latter being one of the most skilled and powerful fighters in the class. Yeah, maybe he shouldn't have been able to tank the hit realistically, but it's a cape comic. Made of Iron is a dirt standard secondary power, even for people who wouldn't normally be powered at all. You guys can't be expecting people Deku hits to just straight up fucking dissolve, that's not gonna play.
Round it out with a pretty fantastic resolution from All Might (that I assume is only going to be better written in the official release) and you're home. Great chapter.
Also, is All Might wielding the Buster Sword there? lmao
Anyway, I called this a while back. Bakugou losing the fight would've destroyed him. Dude would've gone villain, or at least hitched his star to Endeavor. This was the best outcome. And while it's definitely a swerve from what we expected at the end of the last chapter (which seemed to be telegraphing a serious injury for Bakugou), it's not an asspull, either; Deku at less than 10% power and with comparatively little training or experience was nearly enough to overwhelm Bakugou, despite (again, it's worth remembering) the latter being one of the most skilled and powerful fighters in the class. Yeah, maybe he shouldn't have been able to tank the hit realistically, but it's a cape comic. Made of Iron is a dirt standard secondary power, even for people who wouldn't normally be powered at all. You guys can't be expecting people Deku hits to just straight up fucking dissolve, that's not gonna play.
Round it out with a pretty fantastic resolution from All Might (that I assume is only going to be better written in the official release) and you're home. Great chapter.
OniBarubary
Banned
And y'all know Bakugou didn't win the poll thanks to being a well-written and intricate character, which he is.
He is!
And Pikachu has that ketchup bottle from the anime.
that is why I a cool with him winning or it being a tie. him losing would of been annoying to read about. Baku still complaining about that win though had me facepalming.
Deku is going to be the #1 hero so I am fine with him struggling in his teen years.
I am kinda ok with Baku taking that blow because
1.manga
2.Deku took a powerful hit straight down to the ground and looked more ok than baku.
3.they were in the air so he didn't have much weight behind his attack. the power of a punch comes from you putting your weight and using your hips.
4. yea I think him not turning into Sasuke, saying fuck the villains, and ect boosted him up. plus he is a asshole. assholes tend to finish first .
Poodlestrike
Banned
Hah, great catch. I like how the MHA polls take a second to address the "wtf" vote.
Also, GSO Mineta.
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It'd be interesting if they address that. Deku's style is going to involve more real-world technique than, say, Todoroki or Bakugou's, just by virtue of being entirely physical in nature (and not involving extra limbs). Maybe they need to stick him in a depowering ring with Muhammad Ali, Superman Style.
I mean he is a asshole who kinda learns from his mistakes.
Horikoshi's mentioned watching K1, the Japanese shoot boxing tournament, so yeah it has to be based on real life kickboxing otherwise Horikoshi wouldn't bother. Same goes for Ochako, Satou, and Ojiro. (judo, boxing/wrestling, karate)
heck, Bakugou just used a real life judo move there, just with more explosions
Poodlestrike
Banned
booooo
Sorta. Bakugou is kind of an interesting subversion of the classic Shonen Rival by virtue of having some of his own psychology, instead of existing mostly as a foil for the protagonist. When he gets rekt, it doesn't just trigger introspection, it gives him new insecurities.
OniBarubary
Banned
Man, fuck UFC for gutting K1 when it was getting big. I used to stay up til like 2AM to catch those tournaments live. Makes me real sad.
Poodlestrike
Banned
He's kind of cruising for the "he's an asshole, but he's our asshole" slot right now, tbh. Dude hasn't been a straightforward bully for a while.
The Grapes of Salt, at the very least.
Hell yeah, let's get all History's Strongest Disciple Kenichi up in this biatch.
Shouto's a much cleaner rival fo sho.
BassForever
Member
I think it makes sense for Deku to lose this fight, its been like this since day 1 Deku has the hero rescue spirit and Baku has the hero fighting drive. Deku's fighting has improved a lot more then Baku's rescue abilities, but Deku still isn't on Baku's level in a pure one on one fight. All Might made it clear they both still have a lot of learning and growing to do but they can each learn from the others strenght to be two of the best ever. This fight should have a pretty significant impact on their relationship going forward as it should.
OniBarubary
Banned
And then they fuck
waiting for DTL to comment on that
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