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My Little Pony FiM Community |OT2| I just don't know what went wrong!

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Gotchaye

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I thought it'd be interesting to see how the seasons stack up in my rankings, counting two-parters as two episodes.

Tier 1:
S1: 3
S2: 8
S3: 0

Tier 2:
S1: 7
S2: 3
S3: 1

Tier 3:
S1: 1
S2: 3
S3: 3

Tier 4:
S1: 6
S2: 6
S3: 2

Tier 5:
S1: 8
S2: 3
S3: 6

Tier 6:
S1: 1
S2: 3
S3: 1

So I have Season 1 as inconsistent but rarely terrible, with the median episode around the middle of the rankings. Surprisingly (to me), Season 2 had more really low-rated episodes, but the median episode was better, and it dominates the top tier. The median Season 3 episode ranks worst, but a significant fraction of them were still pretty good. The average S1 episode is Tier 3.46, S2 is 3.08, S3 is 4.23. The median episode overall is Tier 3 and the average episode overall is Tier 3.46.

It's science.
 
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Rhomega Beta

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Luna Tier
1 Luna Eclipsed
2 Party of One
3 Magical Mystery Cure
4 Sleepless in Ponyville
5 A Canterlot Wedding

Rarity tier
6 The Best Night Ever
7 Sweet and Elite
8 It's About Time
9 Suited for Success
10 The Cutie Mark Chronicles

Twilight Sparkle tier
11 Hurricane Fluttershy
12 Too Many Pinkie Pies
13 Swarm of the Century
13 Winter Wrap Up
15 Magic Duel
16 Sonic Rainboom
17 Wonderbolts Academy
18 Hearth's Warming Eve
19 The Return of Harmony
20 Sisterhooves Social

Fluttershy Tier
21 A Bird in the Hoof
22 Keep Calm and Flutter On
23 Secret of My Excess
24 The Ticket Master
25 A Dog and Pony Show
26 Read It and Weep
27 Applebuck Season
27 Fall Weather Friends
29 Friendship is Magic

Pinkie Pie Tier
30 Hearts and Hooves Day
31 Look Before You Sleep
32 Dragonshy
33 Ponyville Confidential
34 The Last Roundup
35 Green Isn't Your Color
36 Lesson Zero
37 MMMystery on the Friendship Express
38 Boast Busters
39 Putting Your Hoof Down

Applejack Tier
40 The Crystal Empire
41 Feeling Pinkie Keen
42 The Mysterious Mare Do Well
43 One Bad Apple
44 Owl's Well That Ends Well
45 Bridle Gossip
46 May the Best Pet Win!
47 The Super Speedy Cider Squeezy 6000
48 Over a Barrel
49 Family Appreciation Day

Rainbow Dash Tier
50 Just For Sidekicks
51 Games Ponies Play
52 The Cutie Pox
53 Dragon Quest
54 A Friend in Deed
55 Call of the Cutie
56 The Show Stoppers
57 Apple Family Reunion
57 Spike at Your Service
59 Griffon the Brush-Off
60 Baby Cakes
61 Stare Master
 
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blamite

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Twilicorn Tier

1 The Last Roundup
2 The Return of Harmony
3 Sweet and Elite
4 A Canterlot Wedding
5 The Cutie Pox
6 The Cutie Mark Chronicles
7 Sisterhooves Social
8 Ponyville Confidential
9 Magic Duel
10 The Super Speedy Cider Squeezy 6000
11 It's About Time

Rarity Tier

12 Hurricane Fluttershy
13 Secret of My Excess
14 Putting Your Hoof Down
15 Winter Wrap Up
16 Suited for Success
17 Party of One
18 Green Isn't Your Color
19 MMMystery on the Friendship Express
20 One Bad Apple
21 May the Best Pet Win!
22 Lesson Zero
23 Luna Eclipsed

Fluttershy Tier

24 Feeling Pinkie Keen
25 Sleepless in Ponyville
26 Magical Mystery Cure
27 Games Ponies Play
28 Too Many Pinkie Pies
29 Hearth's Warming Eve
30 A Friend in Deed
31 Hearts and Hooves Day
32 Over a Barrel
33 The Show Stoppers
34 The Best Night Ever
35 Applebuck Season
36 Bridle Gossip

Applebloom Tier

37 Apple Family Reunion
38 Stare Master
39 Sonic Rainboom
40 Dragonshy
41 Wonderbolts Academy
42 Swarm of the Century
43 Call of the Cutie
44 Fall Weather Friends

Scootaloo Tier

45 Spike at Your Service
46 Owl's Well That Ends Well
46 Family Appreciation Day
48 Friendship is Magic
49 The Ticket Master
50 Boast Busters
51 The Crystal Empire
52 Dragon Quest
53 Read It and Weep

Spike Tier

54 Look Before You Sleep
55 A Dog and Pony Show
56 Just For Sidekicks
57 Keep Calm and Flutter On
58 Griffon the Brush-Off
59 A Bird in the Hoof
59 The Mysterious Mare Do Well
61 Baby Cakes

I'd actually probably mix this up a little but whatever you get the general idea.

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Finally, the plushie I ordered is here <3

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She was squashed into my mailbox ;_;
 
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DrForester

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Some notes about S3, and a small (not unexpected) tidbit from S4.

http://www.ponychan.net/chan/pony/res/36557627+50.html#36558159

-Sombra is dead. As in dead-dead. Also Meghan didn't really liked how he turned out, but was trying to go for a Sauron type vibe with him.
-Multiple Rarity episodes (well no duh) with one that Meghan is very excited about.
-SAYS was originally going to be much more of a Rarity episode, but Rarity came off as too mean, so they changed it to be about AJ mainly. (Oh Merriwether....I guess Rarity fans should be happy Meghan intervened.)
-Not really any sort of question, but Meghan was wearing an "I <3 D&#601;rpy" shirt.
-Season 4 opener will be about Twilight's uncertainty as a princess. Sort of an obvious one, but it's nice to see they aren't just going to leave the big question after the finale left out to dry, and that Twilight isn't just perfectly certain about everything following. I'm quite pleased with this, vague as it is.
-Meghan said it's not hard at all to write for Twilight as an alicorn.
-Meghan mentioned that reforming Discord allows for new story possibilities and directions and that he can be unpredictable or unreliable as he figures things out and such.
- Not really relevant but still funny: Meghan wrote "Applejack pregnancy scare" on the "board of ideas", just to mess with the next people to have the conference room. (No AJ will not be pregnant)
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Slamtastic

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It's good to see that hopefully the S3 end won't be undone, and they'll be going forward with the change.

Sad to hear that they aren't going to try again at making Sombra a good character with a return.
 
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DrForester

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Slamtastic said:
It's good to see that hopefully the S3 end won't be undone, and they'll be going forward with the change.

Sad to hear that they aren't going to try again at making Sombra a good character with a return.
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They'll retcon it.

S4E2 end.

Dear Princess Celestia,

I ran out of quills and used all my feathers. Do they grow back?

YFS,
Twilight Sparkle

*joke shamelessly lifted from The Round Stable forums
 
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LuffyZoro

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Is that one a result of you throwing money at your screen?

Anyway, Daniel Ingram did a panel at Unicon, and here's a EQD writeup.

About the Season Three finale:

  • A lot of things changed about the episode in production. For example, Daniel originally wanted to look into how the mane six's cutie marks changing changed history, complete with a song! It was cut due to time, but just imagine if Pinkie had grown up on Sweet Apple Acres or if Rarity always did the weather for Ponyville!
  • Twilight originally got her wings during the first Elements of Harmony blast. The wings would appear followed by a commercial. Instead, they used the "celestial dimension" space that Twilight met Celestia in.
  • Daniel had a huge amount of work for the finale on his shoulders due to it being a musical. Much of the original was modified. He mentioned that he shut himself in his house for a week, writing a song each day!
  • The end of the episode originally featured Twilight singing about her new wings to the tune of the show's theme.
  • Everyone on the show wanted it to be a 2 part episode (if not more!), but they were very happy with the outcome and how they handled the challenge of such a plot-heavy episode with music.
  • Hasbro and the show team really wanted to do a musical episode. At first, there was talk of making episode 12 a musical, as Daniel worried about making such a story-heavy episode mesh in tone with how happy the songs tend to be.
  • "What My Cutie Mark is Telling Me" has a hidden reference to "Art of the Dress" during Applejack's section
  • The hardest song for him to write for the finale was either "True True Friend" and "What My Cutie Mark is Telling Me," due to how complicated the topics of the songs were.
  • Favorite song in Season Three: a split between "What My Cutie Mark is Telling Me," "Find a Way (full version)," and "Celestia's Ballad."
  • Celestia's song was originally longer and dealt with her history.
  • He envisioned Celestia's song as a parent watching a child grow up and mature.

General Section

  • When asked, Daniel Ingram most wants to do a song with Discord or Luna out of all the characters that don't have songs.
  • Tara Strong doesn't sing Twilight because she lives too far away; it's critical to have singers nearby for any changes. He prefers to have sing the same day they do lines.
  • Daniel Ingram sings as he writes the songs! Apparently, somewhere out there, there is an archive of embarrassing singing.
  • No songs he made have ever been rejected from the show, but an original "Smile, Smile, Smile" song that was a bit too slow nearly did. In the end, Jayson and Daniel came to an agreement on an upbeat, fast-paced song.
  • Hasbro is very encouraging of Daniel's ideas.
  • He makes the demos sound as close to production as possible for the sake of pitching them to Hasbro.
  • Hasbro wants to do an official soundtrack of the songs and the background music, but they have a lot on their plate, with legal issues and royalties possibly making it not profitable. (Maybe enough of us pledging to buy it would change their minds, eh?)
  • Hasbro loves music in their shows, and gives him a generous budget to make the pony songs we love happen.
  • He says songs are like a puzzle, fitting the pieces into specific time slots while still conveying the full message.
  • They really appreciate Will Anderson even more after working the background scores for the finale.
  • Episodes are chronologically worked on over at the music side.
  • Dialogue interludes are usually added by Daniel Ingram: "True, True Friend" for example.
  • Almost in every case a song is specifically written and used for each show, though another show he worked on with a rejected song did sneak into a non-pony project.
  • He starts with lyrics, but they are really close overall between melody and lyrics. Lyrics are reworked throughout to meet the melody.
  • He prefers writing songs in one sitting.
  • If he had an unlimited budget, he would love to do a song where every single pony sings, maybe about Ponyville or Equestria.
  • Daniel can't listen to non-remixed songs just like the writers can't read fanfic, but he's really excited for the day when he can finally check it all out. As he said at the panel, "I can't wait until... I'm fired."
  • His advice to those looking to break into the music scene: collaborate with other people and network to get your name out there. Eventually, someone who needs music will make some calls!
  • The melody from "Love is in Bloom" snuck into Pound Puppies after the song was already complete just because it fit, as a fun Easter egg. They also used the CMC song very briefly.
  • Keeping track of all the relationships and how everypony helped each other get their cutie marks back got so confusing, he and Jayson had to draw a map complete with connecting lines. It was drawn on a napkin in a pub. (If anyone happens to find this, please call me.)
  • He has freedom to change what he wants to make a song work, but he usually sticks with what they give him.
  • Originally, Pinkie Pie was the only pony that was going to sing! This changed as the show went on, obviously, but it's interesting to imagine the show having that much less singing in it.
All in all, Daniel Ingram gave a great panel and was really amazing about answering everyone's questions as best he could. As someone who is more a story than a music person, I found him great to listen to.
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DrForester

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LuffyZoro said:
Is that one a result of you throwing money at your screen?

Anyway, Daniel Ingram did a panel at Unicon, and here's a EQD writeup.
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I'm more convinced that the coronation was the Hasbro mandate. Sounds like They had a lot more planned without that being in there.

No Celestia History song :(
 
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Scirrocco

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Slamtastic said:
FiW time. Grab it before the cops show up.
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Watching it now. Absolutely amazing. Including a commercial in the middle was brilliant way to twist the tension, and that bit after the credit was actually pretty creepy.

Gotchaye said:
I've never tried watching these before. This one is very good. Is it worth it to fiddle with proxy settings to watch the others?
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Are you at work? probably not. If you can watch them without being fired, the go for it. They start out great and only get better.
 
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DrForester

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A lot of things changed about the episode in production. For example, Daniel originally wanted to look into how the mane six's cutie marks changing changed history, complete with a song!
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This might have been a blessing. trying to have an entire alternate history would just be odd. As is I imagine they all woke up with the new Cutie Marks and just went to work at the wrong places. The townspeople are just used to this strange stuff happening.
 
kunonabi

kunonabi

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Man, that final episode was even more of a mess than it looked. Hopefully, the real series finale won't be so troubled and rushed. Ingram did a fantasic job all things considered. I would have liked the full Celesitia song as well. It probably wouldn't have ended up looking so much like Smallville's series finale.
 
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tafer

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If you asked me, the music is probably the best part of the show. Anderson, Ingram and the cast that does the singing, all of them are amazing.

DrForester said:
This might have been a blessing. trying to have an entire alternate history would just be odd. As is I imagine they all woke up with the new Cutie Marks and just went to work at the wrong places. The townspeople are just used to this strange stuff happening.
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And if you like a dark twist, an alternate story would mean that TS condemned her friends to an entire life of suffering... No biggie, I guess, she gives them a nod at her ascension and coronation!
 
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Cheerilee

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tafer said:
If you asked me, the music is probably the best part of the show. Anderson, Ingram and the cast that does the singing, all of them are amazing.
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Just to mention, Daniel Ingram is also doing the music over on Littlest Pet Shop. Ashleigh Ball has the lead role in that show. Nicole Oliver, Tabitha St Germain, Shannon Chan-Kent and Peter New are in there too.
 
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