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[Village]

Sorry but that's a piss poor excuse for this shitty as fuck relationship.

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The context of the narrative, them being child PMC solider assassins allowing for them to feel differently about the concept of killing someone. Something established from day one... sure.

No, you are ignoring the context of the narrative because you don't like thing.

When you wish to talk in the context of the narrative and make the argument, fine. Until then, I can't tell you anything because you aren't listening to anything. You have your fingers in your ears yelling
" LALALLALALALALA"

Every time someone points out the story, and how your criticisms, don't even make sense in context.

You don't want an argument, you want your way. And i'm not interested in that

Also you know the " people being in love trying to murder eachother... is a thing in other fiction right?"

 

[360pages]

I'm happy with Naruto and Hinata, mostly because Hinata hasn't showed up yet to become a secret schemer that would make Danzo Blush.

But yeah, the current arc is the perfect example of exposure. I doubt Sarada is not Sakura's daughter. But without the full story it makes Sakura takes the ultimate L while she is being crazy and Photoshopping herself into pictures.

I know there is at least a decent reason about all of this.

 

[360pages]

The context of the narrative, them being child PMC solider assassins allowing for them to feel differently about the concept of killing someone.

No, you are ignoring the context of the narrative because you don't like thing.

When you wish to talk in the context of the narrative and make the argument, fine. Until then, I can't tell you anything because you aren't listening to anything. You have your fingers in your ears yelling
" LALALLALALALALA"

Every time someone points out the story you are actually ready, and how your criticisms, don't even make sense in context.

You don't want an argument, you want your way. And i'm not interested in that

Because given the context of the characters around him he is still an asshole. I mean, this is still a fictional story full of characters that have experienced just as much pain as he has. If this was a story where everyone was a scumbag, then Saskue would make more sense in the context of the narrative, but since we only have other characters to compare him to in that sense he comes off as a selfish jerk at times.

 

[DryEyeRelief]

Okay, got me there.

To be honest, I don't really hate Hinata (only characters I despise are Sasuke and to a lesser extent Sakura) I just hate the fact that she had so much potential (WHY DIDN'T I GET A HYUUGA ARC?!) that was just wasted on bullshit.

Sure it has nothing to do with parings. That's why you compared Hinata with Sakura and not like Tsunade or Temari or something.

 

[Village]

Because given the context of the characters around him he is still an asshole. I mean, this is still a fictional story full of characters that have experienced just as much pain as he has. If this was a story where everyone was a scumbag, then Saskue would make more sense in the context of the narrative, but since we only have other characters to compare him to in that sense he comes off as a selfish jerk at times.

I don't care if you think sasuke is a dirt bag or not, My point is the Attempted murder to relationship whether platonic or intimate is different in magical ninja murder death land.

You hate sasuke, go head. But in a world where they be on casual terms with orochimaru, yeah you can mend some relationships.

 

[TacticalFox88]

Sure it has nothing to do with parings. That's why you compared Hinata with Sakura and not like Kakashi or Neji or something.

You really are insecure prick.

You won, but you simply need to wave your dick in everyone's face?

Come back when you have an argument not idiotic ad hominem attacks.

 

[T'Zariah]

I don't care if you think sasuke is a dirt bag or not, My point is the Attempted murder to relationship whether platonic or intimate is different in magical ninja murder death land.

You hate sasuke, go head. But in a world where they be on casual terms with orochimaru, yeah you can mend some relationships.

Why do you feel like just because it's "accepted" it can't be criticized or readers aren't allowed to think its stupid and terrible writing?

You're literally arguing "Kishi wrote the world this way and we have to accept it as is 100%"

 

[Village]

Why do you feel like just because it's "accepted" it can't be criticized or readers aren't allowed to think its stupid and terrible writing?

You're literally arguing "Kishi wrote the world this way and we have to accept it as is 100%"

No, if people were arguing " the way that people in naruto get over tying to be murdered is bullshit" Not only would I be fine with that argument, I would agree with them.

But thats not that, its just sasuke and sakura, to which my argument is. Why is that weird, and not them being on casual terms with someone who successfully murdered their 3rd political leader. And Why is naruto best friends withs multiple people who tried to kill him, one of those the current leader of a country who during the murdering of the 3rd were sent to take down their government

If you are criticizing how people take murder in naruto, sure fine. He'll I'll agree with you, I would argue why are you even reading naruto if you hate basic concepts, but I'll agree with you.

But if you are criticizing these two characters, I wanna know why the suspension of disbelief has stopped here. Not the child PMC soilders, not the teenage Kumate death tournaments, not the love heals all wounds narrative that happened before Sasuke and Sakura. Not the magical demon animals, not any of that,

But two people in the context of this narrative who tried to kill each other at some point reconciling their differences.

I wanna know why the suspensions of disbelief dollar, has stopped here

 

[Icyflamez96]

regardless if she is or isn't

their resemblance is uncanny..... makes all those silly Sarada pink haired photshops look like a joke


well she is a kid who just got emotionally hit hard

she'll regret what she said later but currently it is reasonable for a child to go ballistic for being (potentially) lied to

Man I remember everyone saying the exact opposite before this chapter. They were calling the people who thought Karin was the mom and that Sarada resembled Karin "delusional"

smh

so uh

why is Orochimaru still alive?

Why would he be dead?

 

[Ganzlinger]

It is. It was always edgy, that was kind of the appeal. To pretend other wise is rather disingenuous.

Or do I have to go through everyone's backstories, and how they are all tagic because reasons.

And no one is ever good or bad, and how everything is gray. Also ninja's are just kind of edgy. Also liking edgy things is ok, you ok naruto which is edgy thing. You will be fine, you wont die

This isn't the point. Nothing justifies abusive relationships between these characters. Sakura accepting this humiliating situation (at least as far as shown) as "ninja's world context" is a messed up point of view. Women have a proeminent role in Naruto's world, despite all the "child soldiers". The world is tough and at war but this doesn't make people ok to be assholes to their friends and lover ones. It's bad writing at best or mysoginia at worst.

 

[Village]

This isn't the point. Nothing justifies abusive relationships between these characters. .

What abuse?

They are ninjas, ninjas try to kill each other. Its a business.

Do you know how many super heroes, legit throw hands and then try to get with each other?

 

[360pages]

The problem is Sakura just accepts that shit, with the most Saskue doing is going. "Yeah, Sorry.." No matter the context people shouldn't be happy with someone who treats them like shit while on and off their side. And Sasuke did just that during the entire war.

You're saying because it's a fantasy setting we should just accept that kind of stuff.

 

[T'Zariah]

No, if people were arguing " the way that people in naruto get over tying to be murdered is bullshit" Not only would I be fine with that argument, I would agree with them.

But thats not that, its just sasuke and sakura, to which my argument is. Why is that weird, and not them being on casual terms with someone who successfully murdered their 3rd political leader. And Why is naruto best friends withs multiple people who tried to kill him, one of those the current leader of a country who during the murdering of the 3rd were sent to take down their government

If you are criticizing how people take murder in naruto, sure fine. He'll I'll agree with you, I would argue why are you even reading naruto if you hate basic concepts, but I'll agree with you.

But if you are criticizing these two characters, I wanna know why the suspension of disbelief has stopped here. Not the child PMC soilders, not the teenage Kumate death tournaments, not the love heals all wounds narrative that happened before Sasuke and Sakura. Not the magical demon animals, not any of that,

But two people in the context of this narrative who tried to kill each other at some point reconciling their differences.

I wanna know why the suspensions of disbelief dollar, has stopped here

Okay, so now I see where you're coming from. In that sense, I can sort of concede where you're point is going

But really though, my whole point is this: why is it necessary? Why have her ping after a man who tried to kill her multiple times? I can maybe sort of see her "forgiving" him and them coming to an understanding, given the context. But still head over heels is just...ugh.

Sakura and Sasuke having mutual respect for one another works better for their characters rather than a romance (if there is one as we're still not on the clear on that and won't be for at least 3 more weeks) imo.

Now granted, if Sasuke never tried to kill her, well...that's another story entirely. Still not good, but it's something Kishi could've worked with to make it not seem so contrived and forced.

 

[Village]

The problem is Sakura just accepts that shit, with the most Saskue doing is going. "Yeah, Sorry.." No matter the context people shouldn't be happy with someone who treats them like shit while on and off their side. And Sasuke did just that during the entire war.

You're saying because it's a fantasy setting we should just accept that kind of stuff.

Here's the thing, I agree that more in depth things should have been done about how these two reconciled. Maybe that is what Gaiden gets into, I dunno. That said, given the context of all the " murder to relationship " pipe lines that happened in this narrative, don't find it too hard to believe.

I wish they would elaborate on it more. That's why I hope this new thing just turns into a part 3, i think things need elaborating Upon. Hell maybe even movie about it. But I'm not going to pretend given the context of the story, the stories its inspired by and the genre, there isn't a precedent

 

[Heroman]

I think we all can agree fuck sasuke right, the dude is terrible.

 

[Ganzlinger]

What abuse?

They are ninjas, ninjas try to kill each other. Its a business.

Do you know how many super heroes, legit throw hands and then try to get with each other?

1. Trying to kill her, all her friends, family, marrying her and being absent for 10 years? Don't giving a fucking shit to their own daughter? The world doesn't work like that. Would you accept to being in a relationship like that? No sane person would think that's healthy. Is more due to Kishimoto's writing, but she still loves him, she always forgives him, she doesn't contest him, there is no self-criticism, she gladly accepts everything.

2. They weren't enemies, they were friends. Sasuke betrayed the village but also his friends and he knew the girl loved him. "Fuck this bitch, business". He doesn't gave a shit when he broke her heart. Oh wait.. he didn't because the girl is so submissive that she still loves him despite all of that.

3. Super heroes aren't anything better but in most cases when they fought each other, both were enemies, and they legit hated each other before coming to terms and then they might beecome friends or lovers. In this situation we have someone who is in love with a guy who tries to kill and beat her but it doesn't make her stop loving him. It's messed up.

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

If SP is writing it, you at least have a chance of Naruto + Hinata romance stuff.

I don't want that. I want good action and characters being the one in the manga. I don;t trust SP. They rarely are on point.

Aw yeah, Im getting flashbacks to og naruto thread.

Yeah, thst because you bring up the same shit and ignore whats been said. We've had these arguments too many times.

This isn't the point. Nothing justifies abusive relationships between these characters. Sakura accepting this humiliating situation (at least as far as shown) as "ninja's world context" is a messed up point of view. Women have a proeminent role in Naruto's world, despite all the "child soldiers". The world is tough and at war but this doesn't make people ok to be assholes to their friends and lover ones. It's bad writing at best or mysoginia at worst.

This is the last thing we see from Sasuke and Sakura before gaiden:

This is the last thing we from Sasuke and Naruto before gaiden:

What do we see in gaiden:

We see Sasuke respects Naruto by calling him Hokage and asking him for advice. He reminds Naruto about the co operation thing that was mentioned after their battle.

We see Sasuke call Sakura his wife and ensure that no blame is placed upon her for Sarada's situation.

Sasuke has changed and like I said some of you guys just can't accept that for whatever reasons.

 

[Heroman]

I don't want that. I want good action and characters being the one in the manga. I don;t trust SP. They rarely are on point.



Yeah, thst because you bring up the same shit and ignore whats been said. We've had these arguments too many times.

.

This is like the first thing in while I have posted in this thread, It seem that this part 3 had reunited the pairing debate.

 

[Village]

Edit: Wait no, no no. I'm done.

I'm narutoed out for today.

 

[Icyflamez96]

I think we all can agree fuck sasuke right, the dude is terrible.

he is the best character in this manga

 

[Ganzlinger]

This is the last thing we see from Sasuke and Sakura before gaiden:




We see Sasuke call Sakura his wife and ensure that no blame is placed upon her for Sarada's situation.

Sasuke has changed and like I said some of you guys just can't accept that for whatever reasons.

I believe she could forgive him as friends and that would be acceptable in a "real world". But I don't think anyone is capable to see a person you once loved the same way after that person tried to hurt you.

I actually blame more Kishimoto than Sasuke for this. Deep down, I believe Kishi tried to make things right between those two. That last scene is supposed to be adorable. But he ruined both characters for me in the 2nd part. Sakura was awesome through 90% of that part but when he reduced her to a fangirl when Sasuke got around he lost me. And you SasuSaku guys know that things should be written better. No one wanted the relationship to be like this I believe.

 

[Heroman]

he is the best character in this manga

But might gai is the best, followed by killer bee than rock Lee than mardara fucking everything form.

 

[TheRealTalker]

lol at people trying to make Hinata look worse then Sakura

 

[TacticalFox88]

he is the best character in this manga

That's a very interesting way to spell Kakashi.

 

[TheRealTalker]

To be honest, I don't really hate Hinata (only characters I despise are Sasuke and to a lesser extent Sakura) I just hate the fact that she had so much potential (WHY DIDN'T I GET A HYUUGA ARC?!) that was just wasted on bullshit.

I agree with this

I also wanted more info on some other clans too but alas we wasted most of Shippuden with them trying to get Sasuke back


the Akatsuki was the thing keeping the plot together

 

[Icyflamez96]

That's a very interesting way to spell Kakashi.

That's my serious answer.

Sasuke brings the most entertainment though.

 

[TheRealTalker]

That's my serious answer.

Sasuke brings the most entertainment though.

he brings the most drama :/

that's what i said

indeed

 

[Icyflamez96]

he brings the most drama :/

that's what i said

 

[hipbabboom]

lol at people trying to make Hinata look worse then Sakura

I haven't read through the thread but who in their right mind would do this? Hinata won... Naruto won. I'm not even sure how you would draw a parallel between Sakura and Hinata... Naruto never disrespected Hinata or made her feel worthless; he was simply in love with someone else. Now Sakura was rejected, berated, actively despised, beaten, heavily used and ultimately cheated on. Hinata, a princes, now a with beautiful children and a loving husband who happens to be the most powerful MC is living a wonderful life while Sakura, has a dead master, mental illness, a man who won't even touch her and a daughter from the women who her husband knocked up that she was forced to raise who doesn't give a damn about her.

Yup... hinata sure has it worse

 

[Lexxism]

To be honest, I don't really hate Hinata (only characters I despise are Sasuke and to a lesser extent Sakura) I just hate the fact that she had so much potential (WHY DIDN'T I GET A HYUUGA ARC?!) that was just wasted on bullshit.

C'mon dude. I'm pretty sure you know the reason why she or her clan didn't get any screen time or focus

 

[TheRealTalker]

I haven't read through the thread but who in their right mind would do this? Hinata won... Naruto won. I'm not even sure how you would draw a parallel between Sakura and Hinata... Naruto never disrespected Hinata or made her feel worthless; he was simply in love with someone else. Now Sakura was rejected, berated, actively despised, beaten, heavily used and ultimately cheated on. Hinata, a princes, now a with beautiful children and a loving husband who happens to be the most powerful MC is living a wonderful life while Sakura, has a dead master, mental illness, a man who won't even touch her and a daughter from the women who her husband knocked up that she was forced to raise who doesn't give a damn about her.

Yup... hinata sure has it worse

dead master?

Tsunade is alive isn't she?

 

[Error]

I want to see Naruto's family.

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

I believe she could forgive him as friends and that would be acceptable in a "real world". But I don't think anyone is capable to see a person you once loved the same way after that person tried to hurt you.

I actually blame more Kishimoto than Sasuke for this. Deep down, I believe Kishi tried to make things right between those two. That last scene is supposed to be adorable. But he ruined both characters for me in the 2nd part. Sakura was awesome through 90% of that part but when he reduced her to a fangirl when Sasuke got around he lost me. And you SasuSaku guys know that things should be written better. No one wanted the relationship to be like this I believe.

"real world"...come on

No. Kishi keeps his characters in character very well. I was initially angry when Sasuke pulled the world control shit and thought that Kishi did this to just force another Naruto vs Sasuke fight since everyone wanted one.....it might very well of been a way for him to do that but after reading 699 and I was surprised how tied together everything was...like it was all planned from the beginning. I guess naruto can smile and "shake hands" with Sasuke but Sakura is not allowed to blush when Sasuke does an affectionate gesture (which he never has done in the entirety of the manga).

I expect the same from Gaiden.

I would of liked if everything was drawn out more. (all the events starting from NvsS fight). I also didn't like how Kishi clearly had an idea for Sasuke's redemption journey but abandoning it because he didn't want to continue that storyline, only to bring it back in gaiden. I certainly would of liked to see Sasuke's journey from which he talks form in 699.

 

[Ponn]

I don't want that. I want good action and characters being the one in the manga. I don;t trust SP. They rarely are on point.



Yeah, thst because you bring up the same shit and ignore whats been said. We've had these arguments too many times.



This is the last thing we see from Sasuke and Sakura before gaiden:



This is the last thing we from Sasuke and Naruto before gaiden:



What do we see in gaiden:

We see Sasuke respects Naruto by calling him Hokage and asking him for advice. He reminds Naruto about the co operation thing that was mentioned after their battle.

We see Sasuke call Sakura his wife and ensure that no blame is placed upon her for Sarada's situation.

Sasuke has changed and like I said some of you guys just can't accept that for whatever reasons.

You're going off the deep end, like Frog-Fu deep end.

Sasuke pretty much always had respect for Naruto through all parts of the story. He had already accepted him as an equal by mid-first part Naruto.

Sakura though, man he never showed her an ounce of respect in any parts of the story and even constantly degraded her. Badmouthing her right to her face. Then trying to kill her multiple times. All of this, made up by touching her forehead? I'm sure Kishi was trying to make it seem poignant with the whole Itachi forehead poke thing but just incredibly unrealistic. At this point if you want to consider Sasuke her husband thats fine but its more like an abusive relationship where she keeps coming back from more "B.b.but he's changed?!!" And its easy for him to claim not blame Sakura for anything. Why? BECAUSE HE WAS THE DEADBEAT DAD GONE FOR 12 YEARS. Asshole can say whatever he wants.

I warned that girl, I told her don't stick with Sasuke. He's a loser dead beat that is just going to abuse you and what did she do? She never listens, I told her bushy brows would treat her right but nope, she had to have the sauce. Well she got the sauce now, and a kid that isn't hers and a shit load of drama.

 

[hipbabboom]

dead master?

Tsunade is alive isn't she?

She's alive? Praise Zeus! I thought she was dead!

 

[brinstar]

Yeah Tsunade is fine. She appears in the last chapter during the epilogue with the other former kages.

 

[Erigu]

Its exactly like that.

*sensible chuckle*

The whole thing Naruto and Sasuke were going for was that the ninja world is a messed up place and they wanted to change it.

"Don't worry, Nagato, I'll keep my promise, and... find some way to change everything. Bring world peace. Somehow. Fulfill the prophecy, and all that. Eventually. Just... not today. Today, I become the new Hokage, woo-hoo!!"
THE END

Clearly the focus of the series, you're right.

 

[Yado]

No, if people were arguing " the way that people in naruto get over tying to be murdered is bullshit" Not only would I be fine with that argument, I would agree with them.

But thats not that, its just sasuke and sakura, to which my argument is. Why is that weird, and not them being on casual terms with someone who successfully murdered their 3rd political leader. And Why is naruto best friends withs multiple people who tried to kill him, one of those the current leader of a country who during the murdering of the 3rd were sent to take down their government

If you are criticizing how people take murder in naruto, sure fine. He'll I'll agree with you, I would argue why are you even reading naruto if you hate basic concepts, but I'll agree with you.

But if you are criticizing these two characters, I wanna know why the suspension of disbelief has stopped here. Not the child PMC soilders, not the teenage Kumate death tournaments, not the love heals all wounds narrative that happened before Sasuke and Sakura. Not the magical demon animals, not any of that,

But two people in the context of this narrative who tried to kill each other at some point reconciling their differences.

I wanna know why the suspensions of disbelief dollar, has stopped here

The T.

None of the main characters are hating on sasuke for his actions, no one cares, even the Kages trust him with matters concerning all of the villages. All the other people he tried to kill in the past who survived are most likely over it, I don't see why Sakura should be the one character to be bitter about what happened.

 

[Joni]

This is better.

She shouldn't complain, her uncle twice removed is hanging out with her more than with his son.

I don't want that. I want good action and characters being the one in the manga. I don;t trust SP. They rarely are on point.

I feel the same can be said about Kishimoto who often steers away from what he should do with his characters to focus on the Uchiha clan.

 

[Ganzlinger]

The T.

None of the main characters are hating on sasuke for his actions, no one cares, even the Kages trust him with matters concerning all of the villages. All the other people he tried to kill in the past who survived are most likely over it, I don't see why Sakura should be the one character to be bitter about what happened.

Because marrying someone is different than tolerating ?

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

You're going off the deep end, like Frog-Fu deep end.

Sasuke pretty much always had respect for Naruto through all parts of the story. He had already accepted him as an equal by mid-first part Naruto.

Sakura though, man he never showed her an ounce of respect in any parts of the story and even constantly degraded her. Badmouthing her right to her face. Then trying to kill her multiple times. All of this, made up by touching her forehead? I'm sure Kishi was trying to make it seem poignant with the whole Itachi forehead poke thing but just incredibly unrealistic. At this point if you want to consider Sasuke her husband thats fine but its more like an abusive relationship where she keeps coming back from more "B.b.but he's changed?!!" And its easy for him to claim not blame Sakura for anything. Why? BECAUSE HE WAS THE DEADBEAT DAD GONE FOR 12 YEARS. Asshole can say whatever he wants.

I warned that girl, I told her don't stick with Sasuke. He's a loser dead beat that is just going to abuse you and what did she do? She never listens, I told her bushy brows would treat her right but nope, she had to have the sauce. Well she got the sauce now, and a kid that isn't hers and a shit load of drama.

Nice use of double standards. I'm pretty sure Sasuke has tried to kill Naruto many more times lol
Sasuke did acknowledge both Naruto and Sakura's bonds in part 1. VoTE fight talks and "thank you" to Sakura ( I wonder why he said thank you huh?). When Kakashi talked to him after the rooftop fight he thinks about them as well. When he departs he even says he once thought he could continue with them. He risked his life to save them during his genin days. In 698 he explicitly states how he slowly saw team 7 as his family.

Sasuke however is tormented by his past. He loved his family, espeically his brother dearly. After the massacre, he could never let that go. Itachi reunion just made him more aware of his reasoning to exist. In a very twisted way, Sasuke lived for revenge. He would do anything to get it. He did not care about his future.

Naruto and Sakura knew better though. They had faith in their teammate etc etc I don't know how many times I've repeated this.

In gaiden, so far we know that Sasuke has been on a secret mission to ensure the shinobi world does not have to face a threat like Kaguya again. The details are vague but if you want to call him a deadbeat dad for wanting a better future for everyone and going on said mission than I guess Naruto is a deadbeat dad as well. After all he was willing to come with Sasuke before Sasuke told him the necessity of him staying in Konoha.

The rest of your post just tells me how little your understanding of these characters is. I admit Kishimoto does like to keep Sasuke's thoughts constantly hidden as a way to create suspense or drama but everything was laid pretty explicitly at the end.

Maybe in your head, through some wishful thinking, you see it like you wrote but reality is different:

 

[Heroman]

That's my serious answer.

Sasuke brings the most entertainment though.

Can't argue with that.

 

[TheRealTalker]

Team Taka is like the supermodel team with the latest trends

I mean look at them

 

[TacticalFox88]

The details are vague but if you want to call him a deadbeat dad for wanting a better future for everyone and going on said mission than I guess Naruto is a deadbeat dad as well

Holy shit.

You're actually defending Sasuke for not seeing his own daughter for twelve. TWELVE years.

I can't right now.

I'm in awe.

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

Holy shit.

You're actually defending Sasuke for not seeing his own daughter for twelve. TWELVE years.

I can't right now.

I'm in awe.

No, like I said the details are vague, so I don't feel like concluding anything from that. If I did it would be a conclusion that I would not be confident in. The flashback takes place after Naruto is hokage. Hence Sarada and Bolt would be at least 5 years old. When did Sasuke leave exactly? How long has he been gone? Why can't Sarada remember him at all (that suggest he left when she was very young)? Has Sasuke been on a mission for 12 years with no contact? Did it seem like that? If not then why just his daughter?

I think there's stuff missing. After everything has been revealed and we see that Sasuke has not been in contact with Sarada for 12 years for no reason whatsoever (he could use the hawk for instance) then I will conclude that he was being a horrible father. I would find that really weird though. Sasuke only not being in contact with his daughter through the years.

 

[Ponn]

No, like I said the details are vague, so I don't feel like concluding anything from that. If I did it would be a conclusion that I would not be confident in. The flashback takes place after Naruto is hokage. Hence Sarada and Bolt would be at least 5 years old. When did Sasuke leave exactly? How long has he been gone? Why can't Sarada remember him at all (that suggest he left when she was very young)? Has Sasuke been on a mission for 12 years with no contact? Did it seem like that? If not then why just his daughter?

I think there's stuff missing. After everything has been revealed and we see that Sasuke has not been in contact with Sarada for 12 years for no reason whatsoever (he could use the hawk for instance) then I will conclude that he was being a horrible father. I would find that really weird though. Sasuke only not being in contact with his daughter through the years.

I was going to reply then I saw this and decided not to bother. If the crux how much you believe in your argument depends on Kishi revealing some vague hypothetical that would somehow excuse Sasuke from not being around for 12 years for his child even though everyone has said otherwise, including the child, then I don't see a point going any further. Like I said, this is like Frog-Fu deep end stuff here, don't go over the edge like that.

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

I was going to reply then I saw this and decided not to bother. If the crux how much you believe in your argument depends on Kishi revealing some vague hypothetical that would somehow excuse Sasuke from not being around for 12 years for his child even though everyone has said otherwise, including the child, then I don't see a point going any further. Like I said, this is like Frog-Fu deep end stuff here, don't go over the edge like that.

So you think Kishi has revealed everything concerning that aspect. I admit thats one aspect that I'm really not sure about.....if he has or if he hasn't that is. The flashback scene made me lean to the he hasn't scene though for reasons I said in my previous post.

 

[Erigu]

So you think Kishi has revealed everything concerning that aspect.

And what shape could that missing piece of the puzzle be, exactly? Would it be Euclidian?

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

And what shape could that missing piece of the puzzle be, exactly? Would it be Euclidian?

Look at my previous post.

 

[Erigu]

Look at my previous post.

I did, and didn't see anything, i.e. no theories as to what exactly might be missing. Just "hey, something is probably missing there".
I've seen that kind of attitude before, and I'm sorry, but there comes a point where it stops being reasonable. Sometimes, writers do screw up (some more than others *cough*), and sometimes, they do so in such a way that can't be fixed after the fact.