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[aly]

Iirc in the 4th databook its confirmed Sakura rivals Tsunade at only 19 years old. Innovate....she has shown to be able to include others in the seal.

I hope she trains Sarada in her techniques.

I think the databooks are full of lies. So many numbers and statements don't make sense

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

it says Sakura is the strongest medical nin in her village


by then Kakashi was already Hokage and Tsunade left the village

she hasn't even mastered all of Tsunade's techniques let alone make new ones and surpass her

I don't remember that. I can't be asked to go through the translation thread though so do you have a link?

Why does she need to know all of Tsunade's techniques lol.....if such a silly metric is used than I guess Naruto and Sasuke are weaker than Orochimaru and Jiraya since they can;t use all their mentors techniques. At the age of what 17, Sakura was able to use Tsuande's strongest techniques. Her lack of experience is why I would say she is second to Tsuande during that time but by 700 I'd say she would surpass/equal her eventually.

I think the databooks are full of lies. So many numbers and statements don't make sense

True.

 

[Frog-fu]

Sakura displayed mastery over every jutsu used by Tsunade during the war arc. It would be rather disingenuous to deny she surpassed her Sannin master a long time ago.

It's safe to assume she only grew more powerful and skilled in the years after the war before she settled down and had Sarada.

 

[Khezu]

The only real problem with the Sakura surpassing Tsunade thing is that Tsunade is boring, and has one cool thing, her slug summons.

So being better then her means nothing.

Sakura and Tsunade really needed something flashier to round them out.

 

[Frog-fu]

The only real problem with the Sakura surpassing Tsunade thing is that Tsunade is boring, and has one cool thing, her slug summons.

So being better then her means nothing.

Sakura and Tsunade really needed something flashier to round them out.

So are we just going to ignore mitotic regeneration and superstrength surpassed only the Eight Gates being fully unleashed?

What about sealing jutsu? Surgical skills? Evasive maneuvring that allowed Sakura the ability adept and, by Chiyo's own admission, become capable of independently evade over a 100 puppets at the very start of Part II?

Sakura and Tsunade don't have the flashiest moves, but they're deadly and top tier in their own right. So long as you don't just focus on the demigods.

 

[Ganzlinger]

The best thing about Sakura's return is that we gotta see Sasuke's feelings towards his wife. I can't wait.

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

So are we just going to ignore mitotic regeneration and superstrength surpassed only the Eight Gates being fully unleashed?

What about sealing jutsu? Surgical skills? Evasive maneuvring that allowed Sakura the ability adept and, by Chiyo's own admission, become capable of independently evade over a 100 puppets at the very start of Part II?

Sakura and Tsunade don't have the flashiest moves, but they're deadly and top tier in their own right. So long as you don't just focus on the demigods.

I like that. Just like how I like Lee and Gai's fighting style.

People tend to underestimate just how powerful Sakura and Tsuande's strength is. Not even Kaguya could tank Sakura's punch xD

 

[The Silver]

Lee and Gai are very flashy, Tsunade and Sakura are boring brawlers, they needed their own unique taijutsu techniques.

 

[Jonnax]

The best thing about Sakura's return is that we gotta see Sasuke's feelings towards his wife. I can't wait.

Probably will try to kill her.



I think there's some precedent. Lol

 

[foxuzamaki]

Wait a minute... Sasuke lost his arm forever?

But Naruto has both, right?

What's going on, why I didn't notice this?

Sasuke didnt want his arm for redemption's sake

 

[TheRealTalker]

I don't remember that. I can't be asked to go through the translation thread though so do you have a link?

The Last had that info book for the characters

plus the scans for the last said it to

paraphrasing but it was something like "The best medical nin in the village"

which could mean she is better then Tsunade but then again Tsunade left the village again

Why does she need to know all of Tsunade's techniques lol.....if such a silly metric is used than I guess Naruto and Sasuke are weaker than Orochimaru and Jiraya since they can;t use all their mentors techniques. At the age of what 17, Sakura was able to use Tsuande's strongest techniques. Her lack of experience is why I would say she is second to Tsuande during that time but by 700 I'd say she would surpass/equal her eventually.

Hmmm

HMMMM


HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

you're probably right but currently by feats we've seen Tsunade do a bunch crazy stuff.... like lifting that massive Gamubanta sword and snapping that Susanoo blade


fighting wise Tsunade is more crazy compared to Sakura seeing as Sakura fails to dodge for a ton of people through out the series who aren't even Taijutsu masters like Choji's wife

 

[Icyflamez96]

I really do wish they had flashier jutsu. Their movesets are so boring and uninteresting.

 

[Remapped88]

I really do wish they had flashier jutsu. Their movesets are so boring and uninteresting.

No doubt........I mean throughout the time skip, their jutsu's were just a another variation of their signature one.

 

[TheKaeptain]

Jiraiya is going to make a come back.

 

[Icyflamez96]

No doubt........I mean throughout the time skip, their jutsu's were just a another variation of their signature one.

Huh. I meant Sakura and Tsunade lol

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

I really do wish they had flashier jutsu. Their movesets are so boring and uninteresting.

No way....Sakura's style is like boxing. The series alreayd has plenty of ninjutsu users.

The Last had that info book for the characters

plus the scans for the last said it to

paraphrasing but it was something like "The best medical nin in the village"

which could mean she is better then Tsunade but then again Tsunade left the village again

Hmmm

HMMMM


HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

you're probably right but currently by feats we've seen Tsunade do a bunch crazy stuff.... like lifting that massive Gamubanta sword and snapping that Susanoo blade


fighting wise Tsunade is more crazy compared to Sakura seeing as Sakura fails to dodge for a ton of people through out the series who aren't even Taijutsu masters like Choji's wife

Sakura surpassed anything Tsunade was shown to do here. Her physical strength is unparalleled using her fists.

 

[DryEyeRelief]

Sakura's biggest feat is destroying her own house out of anger and then proceeding to faint right after.

No other character in this story is capable of doing such a thing.

 

[Erigu]

Probably will try to kill her.
I think there's some precedent. Lol

The "secret mission" actually was a restraining order.

 

[Zantetsuken]

I remember Kakashi saying that originally Sakura was a genjutsu type as well. They never expanded on that passing comment.

 

[TheRealTalker]

Sakura surpassed anything Tsunade was shown to do here. Her physical strength is unparalleled using her fists.

We all know this was a plot hole

first of all Kakashi launched her..... second a Goddess decided not to defend her blind spot at that particular time is silly
Kaguya could of done a billion of things to counter that but alas she didn't
ike Kishi said he had to rush the ending so having a last moment Team 7 act was reasonable but not logical seeing as Sakura was useless through out the whole fight until the last second

I remember Kakashi saying that originally Sakura was a genjutsu type as well. They never expanded on that passing comment.

well the Sharigan came along which made all other Genjutsu types useless

remember the Raikge's aid who was also a Genjutsu specialist and how Sasuke defeated him with his own Genjutsu

agains't other people fine maybe those Genjutsu focused ninja have a chance but against someone with a tailed beast..... a hyuga and/or a Uchiha and then it is just useless

 

[Yado]

There's no point in being a ninja Genjutsu user if you aren't an Uchiha tbh

 

[Icyflamez96]

No way....Sakura's style is like boxing. The series alreayd has plenty of ninjutsu users.

Yes, she can punch, just like tons of other characters. That's not unique.

It'd would really be unique if she had some flashier ninjutsu that other characters didn't have.

Her strength may be unique, but you know what would be more unique? Having that strength along with other unique ninjutsu abilities.

But yeah it's just my opinion that both her and Tsunade's movesets were incredibly disappointingly boring by the end.

 

[TheRealTalker]

For someone so focused on using her fist to fight she would be demolished by anyone with a Taijutsu experience

Gates, Gentle Fist..... heck even Frog Sage Fist and 3 tomoe sharigan

 

[SolVanderlyn]

Sakura needed to pull a Kabuto and use medical jutsu in her attacks.

 

[Yado]

idk, I think they're just supposed to be efficient healers/support who only fight if they have to. It doesn't really make sense for them to show up to a fight going all out with flashy jutsu.


I would expect more from Tsunade based on her lineage but Sakura is just a regular girl with no clan or bloodline limits or ninja God ancestors to bestow abilities on her.

 

[cyborg009]

Ugh I wish they showed how the 7 tails was capture...

 

[Ganzlinger]

Sakura is just a regular girl with no clan or bloodline limits or ninja God ancestors to bestow abilities on her.

This alone makes her a better ninja than a lot of people in this series.

 

[Village]

For someone so focused on using her fist to fight she would be demolished by anyone with a Taijutsu experience

Gates, Gentle Fist..... heck even Frog Sage Fist and 3 tomoe sharigan

I give sakura a lot of shit.

But she's the balrog of naruto characters. That shit ain't formal, but if she touches you , not only are you getting messed up. She has a ton of health and armor on that shit.

Thats my give sakura a compliment for the next very long time

 

[dani_dc]

The best thing about Sakura's return is that we gotta see Sasuke's feelings towards his wife. I can't wait.

"You tried to kill Sarada?!"
"It's none of your concern."
"Ok <3"

 

[ffdgh]

"You tried to kill Sarada?!"
"It's none of your concern."
"Ok <3"

Nah we need more family drama to keep giving sadara easy power ups.

 

[dani_dc]

Nah we need more family drama to keep giving sadara easy power ups.

The drama comes from Sakura letting Sasuke get away with it and Sarada hearing about it and thus being more distrustful of both her parents.

 

[AwakenedCloud]

Just found out the mini series started and got caught up. Sarada is going to be Karin's kid. If Kishi take the obvious road, it normally ends up being obvious. People were called delusional for years for believing that Obito and Tobi were one in the same, look at how that turned out for the haters. Same thing goes for Pain's true identity after the 2nd Shinobi War exposition.

Sasuke being the father is up for debate.

 

[TacticalFox88]

Just found out the mini series started and got caught up. Sarada is going to be Karin's kid. If Kishi take the obvious road, it normally ends up being obvious. People were called delusional for years for believing that Obito and Tobi were one in the same, look at how that turned out for the haters. Same thing goes for Pain's true identity after the 2nd Shinobi War exposition.

Sasuke being the father is up for debate.

What?

LOL

How?


My whole stance on Karin is...if she wash' the mother then this ENTIRE subplot is ridiculously pointless and unneeded drama.

 

[TheRealTalker]

I give sakura a lot of shit.

But she's the balrog of naruto characters. That shit ain't formal, but if she touches you , not only are you getting messed up. She has a ton of health and armor on that shit.

Thats my give sakura a compliment for the next very long time

I agree that if she lands a hit it is catastrophic

Plus she is a tank in taking damage due to her diamond on her head if Tsunade is any indication of how it might now work for Sakura


of course she wouldn't be able to land a hit on those four groups I mentioned unless she attacks her surrounding to cause confusion


making a smoke screen by punching the ground will also not help against a Hyuga, Uchiha and Sage user since they can sense and see the person regardless

as for the Gate user their speed is more then enough to react and dodge

 

[ffdgh]

I agree that if she lands a hit it is catastrophic

Plus she is a tank in taking damage due to her diamond on her head if Tsunade is any indication of how it might now work for Sakura


of course she wouldn't be able to land a hit on those four groups I mentioned unless she attacks her surrounding to cause confusion


making a smoke screen by punching the ground will also not help against a Hyuga, Uchiha and Sage user since they can sense and see the person regardless

as for the Gate user their speed is more then enough to react and dodge

Sakura does have access to the strength of a hundred technique if she ever needs that speed/power boost...with the added bonus of auto healing.

 

[Yado]

Do you guys think the fainting after punching the ground is supposed to mirror the way Tsunade would be out for days (weeks?) after using her seal?

I don't get why Shizune said she faints all the time.

 

[Fj0823]

Ugh I wish they showed how the 7 tails was capture...

WOAH WOAH WOAH!

You mean that f***ing long filler arc didn't even bother to show that!?

No way Im watching that crap now

 

[rrc1594]

Remember when nights were mainly Taijutsu. Those were the good days.

Rock Lee Vs. Gaara still GOAT, and Naruto Vs. Sasuke

 

[Rafa=FedKilla]

Remember when nights were mainly Taijutsu. Those were the good days.

Rock Lee Vs. Gaara still GOAT, and Naruto Vs. Sasuke

Yeah and the strategy. There just isn't any drama in summoning and shit. One of the many issues with Kaguya and the great shinobi war.

 

[Frog-fu]

For someone so focused on using her fist to fight she would be demolished by anyone with a Taijutsu experience

Gates, Gentle Fist..... heck even Frog Sage Fist and 3 tomoe sharigan

lol, no.

Nothing short of Eight Gates will be enough.

SM might work due to indirect contact, but she should be able to tank it long enough to land a blow, and she only needs one.

Gentle Fist won't do shit. She'll laugh that off. The effectiveness of a Sharingan depends on the user, so that's whatever, but again, she only needs one hit.

You are viciously underrating Sakura.

 

[The Silver]

lol, no.

Nothing short of Eight Gates will be enough.

SM might work due to indirect contact, but she should be able to tank it long enough to land a blow, and she only needs one.

Gentle Fist won't do shit. She'll laugh that off. The effectiveness of a Sharingan depends on the user, so that's whatever, but again, she only needs one hit.

You are viciously underrating Sakura.

wut, Gentle Fist could completely shut her down, she has no defense for her chakra getting blocked. For a pure taijutsu user who doesn't have anything crazy like a lightning shroud or eight gates the Gentle Fist is one of the worst things you could ever face.

Not saying she'll lose to any known Hyuga, Katsuya is more than enough to shut them down.

Sage mode is a very good matchup for her as she can outlast it.

 

[TheRealTalker]

Gentle fist will seal her chakra making her chakra enhanced punches useless

Her trump card against those 4 is her summon ability

but if it was a 1 on 1 taijutsu fight with a Gentle fist user then she would be overwhelmed.... Plus rotation can also block against those fist
she also doesn't have any mid range/long ranged attacks compared to a the gentle fist.... let alone the fact they are taijutsu experst and could easily dodge such slow fists


The Yin Seal

can release any amount of chakra with this technique by dispersing the seal and pumping the stored chakra back into the user's body. After the stored chakra from the Strength of a Hundred Seal is used, if there is any leftover chakra, the user may use it to re-form the seal.

http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Yin_Seal:_Release
but if your chakra points are closed what are you going to pump it into? It is like a dam blocking a river...


Naruto was able to restore is chakra points because a foriegn chakra entered his body which was Kuramas and engulfed his whole chakra network thus restoring his chakra


Just tap that forehead with the gentle fist and boom done.... call it the sealing Itachi head poke of death in honour of the Uchiha slayer

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

Remember when nights were mainly Taijutsu. Those were the good days.

Rock Lee Vs. Gaara still GOAT, and Naruto Vs. Sasuke

Kakashi vs Obito was late in the series and one of the best fights of all and a craycray display of taijutsu.

That shit was brilliant. Referring to the anime.

 

[Icyflamez96]

Kakashi vs Obito stood out from many of the late part 2 fights of the anime mainly because of the good animation, but it doesn't come close to holding a candle to 1st half of part 2 fights or many part 1 fights. That fight was just too straightforward. I wish there was more that went into it.

Well that's a little harsh on it thinking back at some of the fights. I do think it's a bit overrated though

Spoiler

I hate that word but i used it and i'm a hypocrite

 

[Frog-fu]

wut, Gentle Fist could completely shut her down, she has no defense for her chakra getting blocked. For a pure taijutsu user who doesn't have anything crazy like a lightning shroud or eight gates the Gentle Fist is one of the worst things you could ever face.

Not saying she'll lose to any known Hyuga, Katsuya is more than enough to shut them down.

Sage mode is a very good matchup for her as she can outlast it.

Gentle fist will seal her chakra making her chakra enhanced punches useless

Her trump card against those 4 is her summon ability

but if it was a 1 on 1 taijutsu fight with a Gentle fist user then she would be overwhelmed.... Plus rotation can also block against those fist
she also doesn't have any mid range/long ranged attacks compared to a the gentle fist.... let alone the fact they are taijutsu experst and could easily dodge such slow fists


The Yin Seal


http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Yin_Seal:_Release
but if your chakra points are closed what are you going to pump it into? It is like a dam blocking a river...


Naruto was able to restore is chakra points because a foriegn chakra entered his body which was Kuramas and engulfed his whole chakra network thus restoring his chakra


Just tap that forehead with the gentle fist and boom done.... call it the sealing Itachi head poke of death in honour of the Uchiha slayer

I get that Sakura is the designated punching bag of the show, but to suggest the Gentle Fist is enough to beat her is absurd.

To start, no Hy&#363;ga is going to overwhelm Sakura in taijutsu. In fact, very few people can. Just because their style isn't given a fancy name, that doesn't mean Sakura and Tsunade aren't taijutsu specialist. It's obvious that they are.

They're tanks that evade, endure and punch really, really hard. It may be a simple style, but it's a very effective style, and one that Tsunade has been using for as long as she's lived, and there ain't no Hy&#363;ga overwhelming her, let alone Sakura who surpassed her.

Assuming you can find a Hy&#363;ga that is A) talented enough to stand any sort of chance against Sakura, let alone shut her down completely, and B) survive whatever direct or glancing blow they would invariably receive in return for their trouble, there is no reasonable explanation why the chakra stored in Sakura's Yin Seal couldn't just flood her system or automatically heal the damage as quickly as it is inflicted.

I don't recall the manga noting it was specifically bij&#363; chakra that undid effects of the Gentle Fist, so I'm not sure where that comes from.

 

[Village]

I agree that if she lands a hit it is catastrophic

Plus she is a tank in taking damage due to her diamond on her head if Tsunade is any indication of how it might now work for Sakura


of course she wouldn't be able to land a hit on those four groups I mentioned unless she attacks her surrounding to cause confusion

You would be surprised what balrog can punch though.

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

We all know this was a plot hole

first of all Kakashi launched her..... second a Goddess decided not to defend her blind spot at that particular time is silly
Kaguya could of done a billion of things to counter that but alas she didn't
ike Kishi said he had to rush the ending so having a last moment Team 7 act was reasonable but not logical seeing as Sakura was useless through out the whole fight until the last second

Nope. Kaguya was forced up and Sakura punched her straight down. That enough shows you the strength of Sakura's fists.

"Sakura was useless throughout...."

brah you're sounding real stupid right now. Without Sakura, Sasuke would be dead, and Kaguya would never of been sealed. Kakshi and Sakura (even Obito) had their instrumental moments to help Naruto and Sasuke.

Yes, she can punch, just like tons of other characters. That's not unique.

It'd would really be unique if she had some flashier ninjutsu that other characters didn't have.

Her strength may be unique, but you know what would be more unique? Having that strength along with other unique ninjutsu abilities.

But yeah it's just my opinion that both her and Tsunade's movesets were incredibly disappointingly boring by the end.

Its nice to see taijutsu fighters in a series where ninjutsu is commonly used. Like I said, Sakura has a boxing style, I don;t see from any other character which is badass.

Just found out the mini series started and got caught up. Sarada is going to be Karin's kid. If Kishi take the obvious road, it normally ends up being obvious. People were called delusional for years for believing that Obito and Tobi were one in the same, look at how that turned out for the haters. Same thing goes for Pain's true identity after the 2nd Shinobi War exposition.

Sasuke being the father is up for debate.

Wanna bet

For someone so focused on using her fist to fight she would be demolished by anyone with a Taijutsu experience

Gates, Gentle Fist..... heck even Frog Sage Fist and 3 tomoe sharigan

Anyone would get destroyed by 8 gates.

Lol at the others though. I dare Neji to trade blows with Sakura.....his body would be in pieces.

Sakura has insane strength. One hit is all she needs against either user and in combination with regen she can just pretend to tank a hit and land a killing blow in exchange.

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

Kakashi vs Obito stood out from many of the late part 2 fights of the anime mainly because of the good animation, but it doesn't come close to holding a candle to 1st half of part 2 fights or many part 1 fights. That fight was just too straightforward. I wish there was more that went into it.

Well that's a little harsh on it thinking back at some of the fights. I do think it's a bit overrated though

Spoiler

I hate that word but i used it and i'm a hypocrite

Nope. Part 2 has plenty of sensational, animated fights:

Sasuke vs Deidara
Sakura vs Sasori
Kakashi vs Hidan + Kakazu
Sasuke vs Killer Bee
Kakashi vs Obito

 

[Ganzlinger]

Nope. Part 2 has plenty of sensational, animated fights:

Sasuke vs Deidara
Sakura vs Sasori
Kakashi vs Hidan + Kakazu
Sasuke vs Killer Bee
Kakashi vs Obito

You mean Shikamaru vs. Hidan + Kakazu

 

[Icyflamez96]

Nope. Part 2 has plenty of sensational, animated fights:

Sasuke vs Deidara
Sakura vs Sasori
Kakashi vs Hidan + Kakazu
Sasuke vs Killer Bee
Kakashi vs Obito

I said late part 2.

First half part 2 has the best fights in the series.

Its nice to see taijutsu fighters in a series where ninjutsu is commonly used. Like I said, Sakura has a boxing style, I don;t see from any other character which is badass.

I'm not the one arguing that her style isn't unique, I just said it's boring (which is just my opinion) and said she would be even more unique if she had other unique ninjustu abilities too (which is fact)