LyleLanley
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Boogie is only 25 and is arguably a top 10 player, you'd have to be crazy to take Ingram or Simmons over him.
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NBA 2015- 16 Regular Season IOTI - NBA GAF Is Pretty Dead Considering This Fact
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Boogie is only 25 and is arguably a top 10 player, you'd have to be crazy to take Ingram or Simmons over him.
Ingram is 18, Simmons is 19, player generally hit their peak at ~24-25, so this will probably be his best season statistically.
In terms of value, you have Ingram and Simmons lined up on a really good contract for 4 years, as opposed to Boogie for an unknown amount of years on a "bad contract" (most likely a max deal for X amount of years) Im not implying that Boogie isn't worth that amount, which is really impressive considering how much the #1 or #2 pick (in a decent draft like ours) is worth. Boogie is fucking amazing. It would depend on my team makeup too, Boogie would be useless for the Sixers if they kept the same team makeup, considering we wont be in playoff contention for a couple of more years, so Boogie will be 27 then. Celtics it would make sense to trade that Brooklyn Pick for him as they are in playoff contention
Xplatformer
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NBA players don't generally hit their peak at 24-25.
27-29 maybe. Knowledge, improved skill and no real degregation in athleticism.
27-29 maybe. Knowledge, improved skill and no real degregation in athleticism.
He hasn't really done much for people to not trust him, let alone say he's not capable like you did.
RIP Steph Curry's career.
Ninja Scooter
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Everybody seems to think Curry will age fine because he can shoot so well, but so much of his shooting is predicated on his amazing twitch muscle footwork and handles that it wouldn't surprise me if his career followed that curve somewhat.
shortsFortallPeople
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You're right, he let the team fall completely apart and then had kobe's kiss of death contact on his hands, too. When given a shot to speak with an all star last off season he had to beg him to come back and do another meeting because they botched it the first time around. Now, the team can't even tank right and are actually trying to win games.
But mitch got this. He'll bring the big names to a big town and, hell, they'll want to come!
Which is what knicks fans have been telling themselves for nearly two decades now.
His shooting will always be there, just look at Korver
it's a matter of when his body falls apart and if he does enough in the next 4-5 years to be considered in that Lebron tier player.
I do think primarily post players are the ones that stay good for longer. Duncan is still playting at a fairly high level and he's like 70.
Also, Dragan Bender might have a opt out clause in his contract that may allow him to play in the NBA next year. He's another legitimate player in this draft if he comes to the USA. Make it a top 3 draft this year
Except the Lakers havehad a modicum of recent success and have won multiple championships in the past 40+ years
Knicks have what, 2?
shortsFortallPeople
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If I've made you argue that you're doing better than the knicks then I've already proven my point.
Free agents aren't going to care about a bunch of rings won by retired players when you can't offer them a chance to have a shot at one now.
Free agents aren't going to care about a bunch of rings won by retired players when you can't offer them a chance to have a shot at one now.
Yeah, its not like he put together a team that went to the finals three years in a row not too long ago or anything.
That makes zero sense.
Also, the team needs to be built up before it attracts big name free agents, which is what the team is doing.
Gully State
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Kupchak has had a track record of attracting big free agents. The bigger issue at hand is player development. The purging of Phil Jackson by Jim Buss and his subsequent replacements have been god awful. Mike Brown? D'Antoni (parallels to Rudy T's short Laker stint)...Byron Scott...
I mean in terms of players, the current Lakers have some intriguing talent. It's just that their teacher is the NBA equivalent to this guy
I mean in terms of players, the current Lakers have some intriguing talent. It's just that their teacher is the NBA equivalent to this guy
CreeperBlocks
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When Raptors Turnover
MetalFearSolid
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The current Phil Jackson situation was due to Dr. Buss, not Jim. We also, lost Jerry West because of issues he has with Phil on a somewhat related note. Also, most of Mitch's work has been through trades because the Lakers have never had cap space until from like when they got Shaq to last season.
I'm going to be upset if Jeanie brings Phil to LA.
Gully State
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Gary Payton, Karl Malone, Pau Gasol, Dwight Howard, and Steve Nash. He's landed high profile players.
Randolph Freelander
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This Hornets/Heat game is coming down to the wire.
CreeperBlocks
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Bismack Biyombo has set a Raptors franchise record for most rebounds in a game (25)
Randolph Freelander
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The Jeffersons got the big win over the Dengs. Flat-footed tie on top of the division.
huge win for the hornets, without zeller in the second half no less
biyombo is the man
biyombo is the man
Game was ugly but always great to win those.
thefatness16
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Definitely the worst heat shot this season. Why let Wade take a 3 at all, especially when he's 3-13.
Question for ya, do you know why Charlotte let Biyombo go?
I was always interested in him from when he was drafted until we got him, seems odd they'd just let him go especially with how cheap we got him for this one year.
LyleLanley
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I know the Suns are bad but holy shit.
crowded front court, pretty much. we had drafted frank, traded for spencer hawes, and already had marvin williams, big al, and cody zeller. I guess they also felt his defense and rim protection was expendable because of the emphasis steve clifford puts on wing defense and biyombo's offense is booty.
detectiveconan1
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I know I'm a bit late but GG HornetsGaf.
I'm more interested to know why Dragic was on the bench late in the 4th? Like he was solid for us on both ends all night. I'm also not happy that Richardson wasn't in the game late, especially considering that he hit a bunch of clutch shots early in the 4th. I understand catering to Wade's ego, but he just didn't have it tonight.
I'm more interested to know why Dragic was on the bench late in the 4th? Like he was solid for us on both ends all night. I'm also not happy that Richardson wasn't in the game late, especially considering that he hit a bunch of clutch shots early in the 4th. I understand catering to Wade's ego, but he just didn't have it tonight.
thefatness16
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There was no reason for Dragic and Richardson to not be in the game and getting a chance to take that shot. Wade has been shooting an awful 39% post all star break. He should be shutdown, until the thigh and shoulder injury heals.
Ah definitely makes sense then.
I wasn't familiar with your depth. I don't know how but Biyombo has gotten slightly better on offense. He's not a complete black hole anymore and is at least putting himself in good positions to just dunk or lay it up.
Hell his stone hands are starting to vanish as well.
I could understand richardson not being in since he was 1-4 at the FT line and they would have just fouled him. But seriously they should have put in McBob in if they need a big screen. And maybe Green take wade place. Overall horrible play call by Spo and this isn't the first time he has done something like this.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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The irony.
MetalFearSolid
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So Matt Barnes went after John Henson Down The Tunnel After Ejection lol
unknownstranger
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Lol Serge Ibaka had Seton Hall winning the NCAA tournament.
yeah he worked 1-on-1 with pat ewing a lot while he was with us. I remember when we were the bobcats, the last season before we got coach cliff, players couldn't even hand the ball off to him point blank without him fumbling it out of bounds or turning it over. he's a really hard worker, all he wants to do is get better and he will.
aw man, I forgot yall had McJesus. why didn't he play?
How would that change anything?
Being in Seattle wouldn't make them magically play better to beat Miami in 2012. Or somehow make them magically play better to be better than the Spurs or the Warriors the next 3 years.
Location has nothing to do with it. It's just their bad luck of being in the west in KD and Russ's prime at the same time as the height of the Spurs and Warriors prime.
I hear professional sports teams in seattle can play with an extra man on the roster
shortsFortallPeople
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you almost have to wonder if Spo wanted Wade to fuck that up so he could finally convince him to sit a few games and recover.
Injured and sluggish Wade is doing us more harm than good out there. We have some young and healthy guys. take a week off and get better before the playoffs happen and you're too fucked up to contribute properly
I don't how wade's been playing lately but I don't think you can draw any meaningful conclusions from that hornets game. courtney lee is a great defender and did a good job on wade all night. as for that 3 at the end, game on the line I'd be ok with wade taking that shot every time unless the defense gives you something better. that was a pretty good look though so I'd live with it. however I think yall should have gone for a 3 on the previous possession when you had more time on the clock. could have run a better play.
Mindlessly made dinner plans last week for saturday night with friends not remembering it's gonna be dubs vs spurs.
I can't remember if the ESPN app offers replays for games on ABC.
I'm ok with the warriors taking an L to the spurs (assuming it's not a massive blowout) as long as they show out tonight against dallas. They gotta bounce back from that L they took earlier in the season. Plus the spurs have really started to ramp up into playoff mode and they have the undefeated home court advantage so as long as they don't get slaughtered i wouldn't be disappointed.
I can't remember if the ESPN app offers replays for games on ABC.
I'm ok with the warriors taking an L to the spurs (assuming it's not a massive blowout) as long as they show out tonight against dallas. They gotta bounce back from that L they took earlier in the season. Plus the spurs have really started to ramp up into playoff mode and they have the undefeated home court advantage so as long as they don't get slaughtered i wouldn't be disappointed.
shortsFortallPeople
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naw, look at wade's stats since the all star break. He's been a mess, he slows our offense down because he's older and also injured, and we're better with him on the bench than when he's out there right now.
It's not a hot take based on a one game sample, it's based on a month or so of him being a hot mess. He needs to rest and recover, he's a detriment to the team until he does.
Gully State
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The last 3 Spurs games are huge. I'd rather the Warriors drop the Dallas game than lose at SA. The lead is only 4.5 games right now. Those SA games will be big in locking up the 1 seed
Shit, i totally forget the spurs aren't that far behind.
haha ok fair enough, like I said I wasn't sure how he was playing lately
Randolph Freelander
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Wade isn't taking many 3s this year, but I saw a tweet and then looked at his game log. The last time he made a 3 in a game was in December. On 12/16, he was 1 for 1 from the 3 against Brooklyn. (0 of 14 since.)
yikes. still would have been ok with that shot in a vacuum just because it was an open 3 with 3 seconds on the clock where they needed a 3 to tie. that's why I said they should have gone for the 3 on the previous play so they would have had time to run a play and maybe set somebody up to get a better look off. they chose to take the 2, eat some time off the clock, and hope we missed a free throw.
Apparently Spo only likes to play 9 players a game. I doubt him and Green will get any more decent minutes this season. This makes me worry for the post season. Also he's kind of killing dudes with MPG right now.
shortsFortallPeople
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not really. He's got the rooks running around, sure, but everyone else is doing an average amount of minutes
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