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[darkwing-buck]

The warriors are so far ahead of everyone else. Jesus.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

the way the Warriors can so effortlessly build these double digit leads is scary.

 

[AnAnole]

I consistently have been forgetting that KD is even on the warriors since the injury.

REMINDER: A 73 win team ADDED the 2nd best player in the league.

When they win the championship, it will be tainted with an asterisk.

 

[Slizeezyc]

Rudy doesn't deserve to be roasted like that, he's too good to get sauce'd that bad.

 

[Amory]

The only right move with Thomas is to trade him if you get the #1 pick. I've been preachin it because I believe it

It's a tough decision. I think we have to keep IT though.

Celtics can't just reload on draft picks again and restart all this. Time to put the pedal to the floor and see what we end up with.

 

[nogoodnamesleft]

Poor Utah

 

[BlazinSkatinAxel]

Durrant hit the spin button.

 

[-tetsuo-]

 

[Peter Ian Staker]

God Steph made Gobert dance.

 

[Jarate]

Celtics are not making a move like that if they just think Jackson is a good 3&D guy. If they like Lonzo as a star more, they should take him.

3 and D guys are a lot more valuable then guys like Ball who would be ass next to IT. Unless Ball is a basketball savant (I think he is horrendously overrated, D'Angelo Russell but worse IMO) that defense would be horrific. And you need to give Ball the primary ball handler task cause that's the only way he can use his elite passing. If not, he then just becomes a good shooter who can't play defense.

The only time you take risks like that is when you have a prospect like Embiid, AD, or another absolutely elite prospect. Ball is not one of those players. (He's a good prospect, but he's not an elite one)

 

[Mory Dunz]

c-c-curry

 

[LionPride]

It's a tough decision. I think we have to keep IT though.

Celtics can't just reload on draft picks again and restart all this. Time to put the pedal to the floor and see what we end up with.

They actually can, because building around a 28 year old short PG isn't a smart move. Trading him for picks, getting another PG, and doing better with youth will work

 

[AnAnole]

I hate everyone who doesn't hate the Warriors.

 

[friskykillface]

IT for Hayward and Gobert

Ainge won't trade IT unless he gets something huge in return

 

[Gigglepoo]

REMINDER: A 73 win team ADDED the 2nd best player in the league.

When they win the championship, it will be tainted with an asterisk.

Why?

 

[Mory Dunz]

 

[BMO = GOAT]

REMINDER: A 73 win team ADDED the 2nd best player in the league.

When they win the championship, it will be tainted with an asterisk.

Because? I mean it was KDs choice, it's like saying you can have one of the best players come to your team but turn him down because "sorry we don't want you,it will be too easy". It's all about the W

 

[Servbot24]

REMINDER: A 73 win team ADDED the 2nd best player in the league.

When they win the championship, it will be tainted with an asterisk.

*kicked your ass on the court and at the front desk

 

[Peter Ian Staker]

REMINDER: A 73 win team ADDED the 2nd best player in the league.

When they win the championship, it will be tainted with an asterisk.

The problem isn't the asterisk, the problem is that this team will not be disbanding any time soon.

They will build the dynasty Shaq and Kobe where supposed to make and it's gonna be awful

 

[AnAnole]

Imagine if the championship Bulls added Hakeem Olajuwon without giving up anything of much value.

 

[Tall4Life]

No way are we drafting Ball, no way no way no way

 

[Bread]

the way the Warriors can so effortlessly build these double digit leads is scary.

It would be an honor to see my Celtics get swept by the Warriors in the finals

 

[Yoshimitsu126]

Why?

Because the west has higher standards than Lebron's super team

 

[Jarate]

I agree. I mean I think at one point I the fourth they had IT, Bradley, Smart, and Rozier on the floor.

Hell, you could run a lineup of IT, Bradley, Jackson, Brown and Horford and have a legit elite small ball lineup that.

Jackson like Brown is super versatile, I can easily see him playing 2-4 which is incredibly helpful defensively.

 

[LyleLanley]

They actually can, because building around a 28 year old short PG isn't a smart move. Trading him for picks, getting another PG, and doing better with youth will work

Trading IT before they know if Fultz will turn into anything decent would be a bad idea. Also, I feel like you're vastly underselling IT, he's not just any short PG, he's a short PG that was one point away from setting the Celtics single playoff game scoring record.

 

[Cooter]

Steph is dealing.

 

[LionPride]

REMINDER: A 73 win team ADDED the 2nd best player in the league.

When they win the championship, it will be tainted with an asterisk.

No one gives a fuck about asterisks that don't exist

Trading IT before they know if Fultz will turn into anything decent would be a bad idea. Also, I feel like you're vastly underselling IT, he's not just any short PG, he's a short PG that was one point away from setting the Celtics single playoff game scoring record.

I'm not a fan of paying players who aren't Superduper stars and are 28 and not getting younger. Paying him $400 mill over 5 years...not a good move. Trying to get younger, get more picks, potentially get better? Good move

 

[Amory]

They actually can, because building around a 28 year old short PG isn't a smart move. Trading him for picks, getting another PG, and doing better with youth will work

Picks don't work out all the time. In fact, they work out less often than they do.

Who's gonna trade for IT? Not a team with what will probably be a high lottery pick. It'd be a contender. And they're not giving Boston anything critical to their roster

 

[metalslimer]

Holy fuck

I just can't hate on a team this damn good.

 

[Zantetsuken]

Durantula

 

[VeeP]

First Warriors give teams hope, then they take it away a second later.

 

[darkwing-buck]

This team looks like they can go 16-0.

 

[AnAnole]

Holy fuck

I just can't hate on a team this damn good.

You can't hate on a team that is basically cheating with their roster they don't deserve?

 

[phanphare]

KD ripping their soul out

 

[Jarmel]

ohmygod

 

[LyleLanley]

This team looks like they can go 16-0.

Celtics lost the first two games, they'll have to settle for 16-2.

 

[Slizeezyc]

No one gives a fuck about asterisks that don't exist

What this dude said.

 

[Jarate]

FO' FO' FO' FO'

 

[friskykillface]

Max Barnes must be emo now

 

[Tall4Life]

Once some of the guys on the Warriors get some rings I think they'll start moving apart... I have a feeling that Durant might bounce when his contract is up

 

[AnAnole]

What this dude said.

Because you're shitty basketball fans with shitty memories.

Remember when everyone hated Durant for wussing out?

 

[LionPride]

Picks don't work out all the time. In fact, they work out less often than they do.

Who's gonna trade for IT? Not a team with what will probably be a high lottery pick. It'd be a contender. And they're not giving Boston anything critical to their roster

Some shitty ass team will want IT thinkin he the missing piece and are willing to give a lottery pick

 

[metalslimer]

You can't hate on a team that is basically cheating with their roster they don't deserve?

Hahaha the Warriors are one of the few teams where there core lineup was actually drafted.

Edit: Iggy has been ice cold from 3. Just stop man.

 

[Servbot24]

Draymond better win DPOY

 

[Gotdatmoney]

AD is 24 and he and Boogie and Jrue started really clicking before they decided to tank the last couple of games in the season. Out of your mind

AD has all the talent in the world but I am not convinced what they have in NO is going to pan out. I'll watch and see but as of now where do you see the Pelicans slotting into in the Western Conference that is going to put his playoff feats over Chris Paul? Serious question.

 

[my name is ed]

Draymond's D is about as demoralizing as the 3s Curry makes 30 ft out

 

[Tommy DJ]

Once some of the guys on the Warriors get some rings I think they'll start moving apart... I have a feeling that Durant might bounce when his contract is up

I dunno, Golden State seems to be a nice place to play and there doesn't seem to be a really obvious Kobe/Shaq ego clash going on. What is a few million in the grand scheme of things when you're already getting paid millions in your salary plus endorsement deals? Better than being on a team that crashes in the 1st round.

 

[LionPride]

Because you're shitty basketball fans with shitty memories.

Remember when everyone hated Durant for wussing out?

No one really gives a fuck. People will bitch because they gon bitch like they bitched when LeBron and Bosh went to Miami. People gon bitch.

 

[Tall4Life]

Because you're shitty basketball fans with shitty memories.

Remember when everyone hated Durant for wussing out?

I mean its not like they kidnapped Durant

it sucks for the rest of us who are fans of good-almost great teams that just needed a player like Durant, but GSW are the ones who pulled it off in legal bounds.

 

[Hyperactivity]

I expect Giannis to take that next step next season since he is good to train with Dirk's shooting coach.

That will make him crazy, crazier, but...

Per Game

Season    Age  Tm  Lg Pos   G  GS   MP  FG  FGA  FG%  3P 3PA  3P%  2P  2PA  2P% eFG%  FT FTA  FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV  PF  PTS
2013-14    19 MIL NBA  SF  77  23 24.6 2.2  5.4 .414 0.5 1.5 .347 1.7  3.9 .440 .463 1.8 2.6 .683 1.0 3.4 4.4 1.9 0.8 0.8 1.6 2.2  6.8
2014-15    20 MIL NBA  SG  81  71 31.4 4.7  9.6 .491 0.1 0.5 .159 4.6  9.1 .511 .496 3.2 4.3 .741 1.2 5.5 6.7 2.6 0.9 1.0 2.1 3.1 12.7
2015-16    21 MIL NBA  PG  80  79 35.3 6.4 12.7 .506 0.4 1.4 .257 6.1 11.3 .537 .520 3.7 5.1 .724 1.4 6.2 7.7 4.3 1.2 1.4 2.6 3.2 16.9
2016-17    22 MIL NBA  SF  80  80 35.6 8.2 15.7 .522 0.6 2.3 .272 7.6 13.5 .564 .541 5.9 7.7 .770 1.8 7.0 8.7 5.4 1.6 1.9 2.9 3.1 22.9
Career                NBA 318 253 31.8 5.4 10.9 .497 0.4 1.4 .277 5.0  9.5 .530 .515 3.7 4.9 .740 1.4 5.5 6.9 3.6 1.1 1.3 2.3 2.9 14.9

Provided by Basketball-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 5/2/2017.

Per 100 Possesions

Season    Age  Tm  Lg Pos   G  GS    MP   FG  FGA  FG%  3P 3PA  3P%   2P  2PA  2P%  FT  FTA  FT% ORB  DRB  TRB AST STL BLK TOV  PF   PTS ORtg DRtg
2013-14    19 MIL NBA  SF  77  23  1897  4.8 11.5 .414 1.1 3.3 .347  3.6  8.3 .440 3.8  5.6 .683 2.2  7.2  9.3 4.1 1.7 1.7 3.4 4.8  14.5   99  110
2014-15    20 MIL NBA  SG  81  71  2541  7.7 15.7 .491 0.1 0.9 .159  7.5 14.8 .511 5.2  7.0 .741 2.0  8.9 10.9 4.2 1.5 1.7 3.5 5.1  20.7  105  101
2015-16    21 MIL NBA  PG  80  79  2823  9.3 18.3 .506 0.5 2.0 .257  8.8 16.3 .537 5.3  7.4 .724 2.0  9.0 11.0 6.2 1.7 2.0 3.8 4.7  24.4  109  106
2016-17    22 MIL NBA  SF  80  80  2845 11.7 22.4 .522 0.9 3.2 .272 10.8 19.2 .564 8.4 10.9 .770 2.5 10.0 12.5 7.7 2.3 2.7 4.2 4.4  32.7  117  104
Career                NBA 318 253 10106  8.7 17.6 .497 0.6 2.3 .277  8.1 15.3 .530 5.9  7.9 .740 2.2  8.9 11.1 5.7 1.8 2.1 3.7 4.7  24.0  109  105

Provided by Basketball-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 5/2/2017.

Advanced

Season    Age  Tm  Lg Pos   G    MP  PER  TS% 3PAr  FTr ORB% DRB% TRB% AST% STL% BLK% TOV%  USG%  OWS  DWS   WS   WS/48 OBPM DBPM  BPM VORP
2013-14    19 MIL NBA  SF  77  1897 10.8 .518 .282 .483  4.6 16.3 10.2 12.1  1.7  2.6 19.4  15.0  0.1  1.1  1.2    .031 -2.5  0.7 -1.8  0.1
2014-15    20 MIL NBA  SG  81  2541 14.8 .552 .056 .445  4.5 19.7 12.2 13.1  1.5  2.8 15.6  19.6  2.2  4.0  6.2    .117 -1.7  2.1  0.5  1.6
2015-16    21 MIL NBA  PG  80  2823 18.8 .566 .108 .404  4.6 20.0 12.4 20.0  1.7  3.4 14.8  22.3  4.2  2.9  7.1    .121  1.0  1.5  2.4  3.2
2016-17    22 MIL NBA  SF  80  2845 26.1 .600 .143 .487  5.8 22.6 14.3 26.5  2.3  4.7 13.3  28.2  7.9  4.5 12.5    .210  4.1  3.5  7.6  6.9
Career                NBA 318 10106 18.3 .570 .130 .453  4.9 20.0 12.5 18.6  1.8  3.5 15.1  21.9 14.4 12.6 27.0    .128  0.5  2.1  2.6 11.7

Provided by Basketball-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 5/2/2017.

Playoffs Per Game

Season    Age  Tm  Lg Pos  G GS   MP   FG  FGA  FG%  3P 3PA  3P%  2P  2PA  2P% eFG%  FT FTA  FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV  PF  PTS
2014-15    20 MIL NBA  SG  6  6 33.5  4.3 11.8 .366 0.0 0.2 .000 4.3 11.7 .371 .366 2.8 3.8 .739 2.0 5.0 7.0 2.7 0.5 1.5 1.8 3.0 11.5
2016-17    22 MIL NBA  SF  6  6 40.5 10.0 18.7 .536 0.7 1.7 .400 9.3 17.0 .549 .554 4.2 7.7 .543 1.7 7.8 9.5 4.0 2.2 1.7 3.3 3.5 24.8
Career                NBA 12 12 37.0  7.2 15.3 .470 0.3 0.9 .364 6.8 14.3 .477 .481 3.5 5.8 .609 1.8 6.4 8.3 3.3 1.3 1.6 2.6 3.3 18.2

Provided by Basketball-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 5/2/2017.

Playoffs Per 100 Possessions (this is especially important, Raptors-Bucks was a very low scoring series)

Season    Age  Tm  Lg Pos  G GS  MP   FG  FGA  FG%  3P 3PA  3P%   2P  2PA  2P%  FT  FTA  FT% ORB  DRB  TRB AST STL BLK TOV  PF   PTS ORtg DRtg
2014-15    20 MIL NBA  SG  6  6 201  6.7 18.2 .366 0.0 0.3 .000  6.7 17.9 .371 4.4  5.9 .739 3.1  7.7 10.8 4.1 0.8 2.3 2.8 4.6  17.7   89  106
2016-17    22 MIL NBA  SF  6  6 243 13.1 24.5 .536 0.9 2.2 .400 12.2 22.3 .549 5.5 10.0 .543 2.2 10.3 12.4 5.2 2.8 2.2 4.4 4.6  32.5  105   99
Career                NBA 12 12 444 10.1 21.6 .470 0.5 1.3 .364  9.7 20.3 .477 5.0  8.1 .609 2.6  9.1 11.7 4.7 1.9 2.2 3.7 4.6  25.7   99  102

Provided by Basketball-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 5/2/2017.

Playoffs Advanced

Season    Age  Tm  Lg Pos  G  MP  PER  TS% 3PAr  FTr ORB% DRB% TRB% AST% STL% BLK% TOV%  USG%  OWS DWS  WS   WS/48 OBPM DBPM  BPM VORP
2014-15    20 MIL NBA  SG  6 201 10.9 .425 .014 .324  5.8 17.3 11.1 14.3  0.8  4.0 11.9  20.6 -0.2 0.2 0.0  -0.003 -5.0  2.1 -2.9  0.0
2016-17    22 MIL NBA  SF  6 243 22.4 .563 .089 .411  4.6 25.1 14.1 20.6  2.8  4.0 13.1  29.8  0.1 0.6 0.7    .142  2.1  3.9  6.0  0.5
Career                NBA 12 444 17.2 .511 .060 .377  5.2 21.6 12.7 17.7  1.9  4.0 12.7  25.6  0.0 0.8 0.7    .077 -1.1  3.1  2.0  0.5

Provided by Basketball-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 5/2/2017.

It's not just points, it's points, assists, rebounds, blocks, steals, efficiency, how much he's carrying his team, they all add up to make him way better than what some of you are rating him as. Maybe this is similar to Kawhi where the fact that both the offense and defense should be factored into this is being ignored. Giannis becomes a near MVP candidate if he ends up becoming a dead-eye shooter, and that's not down the line, it's as soon as he can shoot.